the biggest problem is all the morons on here that keep thinking this 3:31 is a real 3:31.....ITS MONACO, how many times must i explain this, its 2-3 seconds fast for some reason
so that means flippy only ran a 3:33-34.....PRETTY MUCH THE SAME AS RYAN
A german 1500 guy implied to the media that Filip was doped. Article is in German.
Jakob has been tested since he was 14.
How much testing is it in American HS running.
Any?
If not, we just have to assume that all Americans are dopers.
Jakob smashed the kid is unrealllllllll
Jakob closed a 3:38 race on Mondo in 53.6--apparently easing up at the end when he was almost caught and apparently thought he'd lost. Ryun closed a 3:38 race on dirt in 50 with 36, as well as a 3:33.1 race on cinders or dirt in 37-38/2:46.
However, Jakob has had a sensational season and remarkable improvement. It looked like Jakob ran approximately 57.6/53.6 for 1:51.2 last 800m, pretty good. It was clear that Henrik didn't quite have the top speed on the last turn but ended up very close to a medal anyway. He's gotten a lot of the way back. Maybe next year he'll be back in 3:31 shape. Filip was clearly suffering from falling and being spiked--maybe even the effort of getting back to qualify after that fall in a 3:40 race where he lost a few seconds to the fall. About Jakob, though, this was a strong field for European championships, probably the strongest field there has been since the 1980s or early 1990s, and the great ones, once they reach the elite level, go to the head of the class very quickly. He appears to be one of those with the 3:31 and this victory, all at 17. His timetable is accelerated greatly by his coach and training partners but this is remarkable.
Halviking wrote:
Jakob has been tested since he was 14.
How much testing is it in American HS running.
Any?
If not, we just have to assume that all Americans are dopers.
Lots of young people take drugs. This is hardly unbelievable. Drugs is endemic in Professional Sports. We should also have realized by now, that anti-doping institutions are useless.
rojo wrote:
A german 1500 guy implied to the media that Filip was doped. Article is in German.
https://www.vg.no/sport/friidrett/i/VRwen3/kom-med-dopantydning-mot-filip-ingebrigtsen-saa-tok-tyskeren-selvkritikk
+1
This family is juiced to the gills.
Sand Dunes wrote:
This family is juiced to the gills.
And you are not a crab in the dunes.
White Punks on Dope wrote:
Lots of young people take drugs. This is hardly unbelievable. Drugs is endemic in Professional Sports. We should also have realized by now, that anti-doping institutions are useless.
Naturally. But, while one has to cheat to win in such a dirty sport, winning Euro at age 17 is nevertheless extremely impressive. So kudos!
Letsrun never ceases to amaze me. If a runner falls and finishes last or DNFs, they are a mentally weak headcase. If a runner falls, gets back up, and works back their way back into the race, they are doped.
He looked like he did a decent job of breaking his fall without getting the wind knocked out of him or hurting himself. And he was less than 3 seconds behind the pack when he regained full speed. He fell around the 860 meter mark it seemed. It was a 60.5 lap, so it is not unreasonable for him to have caught back up so quickly. But it is certainly very impressive... excellent composure!
sky wrote:
And I don't recall Ryun acting like a buffoon after any of his races, win or lose.
Those were better times and better behavior, I reckon.
He blamed Satan for knocking him down in Munich. That's a bit of buffoon type behaviour.
rojo wrote:
A german 1500 guy implied to the media that Filip was doped. Article is in German.
https://www.vg.no/sport/friidrett/i/VRwen3/kom-med-dopantydning-mot-filip-ingebrigtsen-saa-tok-tyskeren-selvkritikk
Google translate says it’s Norwegian.
Here’s the translation of the beginning:
“COME WITH DOPE DIFFERENCE AGAINST PHILIP INSURANCE - SO TOGETHER THE SELF-CRITICAL
BERLIN (VG) After Wednesday's dramatic 1500 meters, German rider Timo Benitz (26) fared to suggest that ruling European champion Filip Ingebrigtsen (25) has used illegal preparations.”
Thank you, Google Translate.
I don't believe those Ingebrigtsen. I'm 99% sure that there is a doping culture in Norway. And probably in a lot of other countries to..
Reason 1:
Back in the 90' there where a couple doctors of the dutch atletics and they wanted to start a systematic doping system, they wanted to create a progam 'like they have in Norway.' One of those doctors is called Ijzerman and all the post about him on google are about anabolics.
2. Norway has 6 million inhabitants, they have so many good athletes on all disiplines (400, hurdles, 1500+ marathon) and not only in atletics but they compete at a high level in all kind of sports. How are the changes of that?
3. Their climate isnt made for sports so the changes of so many world class athletes should be even lower
freelo wrote:
I don't believe those Ingebrigtsen. I'm 99% sure that there is a doping culture in Norway. And probably in a lot of other countries to..
Reason 1:
Back in the 90' there where a couple doctors of the dutch atletics and they wanted to start a systematic doping system, they wanted to create a progam 'like they have in Norway.' One of those doctors is called Ijzerman and all the post about him on google are about anabolics.
2. Norway has 6 million inhabitants, they have so many good athletes on all disiplines (400, hurdles, 1500+ marathon) and not only in atletics but they compete at a high level in all kind of sports. How are the changes of that?
3. Their climate isnt made for sports so the changes of so many world class athletes should be even lower
Lol. You can't even get your basic facts straight. We are 5 million people, not 6.
Some countries are better than others. Deal with it.
This is funny in retrospect, considering that Jakob does now have medals hanging around his neck.
ex-runner wrote:
He is a skinny f*ck though, probably just 6mm deep.
He'll get stitches and be fine, Filip is head an shoulders better than anyone else in Europe. I've been saying it for a year whilst everyone was hanging medals around Jakob's neck.
Filip is the one.
bltrert wrote:
This is funny in retrospect, considering that Jakob does now have medals hanging around his neck.
ex-runner wrote:
He is a skinny f*ck though, probably just 6mm deep.
He'll get stitches and be fine, Filip is head an shoulders better than anyone else in Europe. I've been saying it for a year whilst everyone was hanging medals around Jakob's neck.
Filip is the one.
Ha! ?that didn't age well.
zxcvzxcv wrote:
About Jakob, though, this was a strong field for European championships, probably the strongest field there has been since the 1980s or early 1990s, and the great ones, once they reach the elite level, go to the head of the class very quickly. He appears to be one of those with the 3:31 and this victory, all at 17. His timetable is accelerated greatly by his coach and training partners but this is remarkable.
Yes, people dissing Jakob's achievement are fools. 1500m running in Europe hasn't been stronger since the early 90s, or even the Coe, Ovett, Cram era if you discounted the 90s EPO Spaniards and French Moroccans.
Also, it's been overshadowed obviously by Jakob's feats, but Jake Wightman is now clearly the best middle-distance runner GB has produced since Peter Elliott.
bltrert wrote:
This is funny in retrospect, considering that Jakob does now have medals hanging around his neck.
ex-runner wrote:
He is a skinny f*ck though, probably just 6mm deep.
He'll get stitches and be fine, Filip is head an shoulders better than anyone else in Europe. I've been saying it for a year whilst everyone was hanging medals around Jakob's neck.
Filip is the one.
Ex-runner doesn't know anything about top class athletics. He claimed I was dumb for predicting that Jakob would be the best European by the time Tokyo 2020 comes around.
Can't be doping. They are all wearing the "I run clean" bib. If they were juiced up they would of course chosen the "I run dirty" bib that EAA got!
Sand Dunes wrote:
Coevett wrote:
I think some Americans here are just bitter that a second Ingebrigsten just destroyed Jim Ryun...
That's the power of asthma inhalers.
Jakob and his brothers are no more likely to be on inhalers than Ryun was on roids.