Pablo Novi wrote:
http://centerforaninformedamerica.com/moondoggie-1/This series, "Wagging the Moondoggie", by Dave McGowan (RIP, website: Center for an Informed America) - imo, easily the internet's greatest investigative reporter. This series is WORTHY. It has now been made into an audio.
I highly recommend it
I skimmed through all the sections. This guy did comprehensive research and makes it crystal clear that Apollo was a hoax. You Apollo believers are fools.
Bad Wigins wrote:
I have not been debating with the trolls, nor whining about trolling, only saying their trolling is low quality. And then, self-starter that I am, I set out to fix it.
But by setting out to fix it, you are falling for the troll. This troll, like the flat-earth one (same guy on both) is designed so that ANYTHING you say to "fix" it has a ready-made response of nonsense. There is no way around it. The point of the troll is to make people endlessly try to "fix" it. You won't win. Look what the anti-troll guy in the flat-earth thread keeps posting. It's annoying, but bang-on. Just ignore and move on. That's how you "fix" it.
He was a professional photographer; maybe that partially explains why he recognized so many details most people (including myself) might miss. And talk about tenacious. And he tops it all off with a wonderful sense of humor.
Glad you liked his work.
Pablo Novi wrote:
He was a professional photographer; maybe that partially explains why he recognized so many details most people (including myself) might miss.
I was a professional photographer, too. He shows photos with a huge depth of field and then goes on to say they have a narrow depth of field, among other things that were totally wrong. Maybe he was banking on the fact that most wouldn't know the difference.
Pablo Novi wrote:
He was a professional photographer; maybe that partially explains why he recognized so many details most people (including myself) might miss. And talk about tenacious. And he tops it all off with a wonderful sense of humor.
Glad you liked his work.
Thanks for posting that link. Just curious, do you also believe that NASA faked the moon missions?
you're not getting it wrote:
Bad Wigins wrote:
I have not been debating with the trolls, nor whining about trolling, only saying their trolling is low quality. And then, self-starter that I am, I set out to fix it.
But by setting out to fix it, you are falling for the troll. This troll, like the flat-earth one (same guy on both) is designed so that ANYTHING you say to "fix" it has a ready-made response of nonsense. .
If you review my posts, you will see that only one is in response to the the troll in question, and the troll did not respond to me. I am discussing things with other people entirely. Not feeding the troll, but starving it! Also offering good advice to be a better troll.
Those who really can't stand trolling of any kind should find a way to avoid clicking threads about fake moon landings. Those who know the value of a good troll thread should join me in trying to improve it.
Legit question wrote:
Pablo Novi wrote:
http://centerforaninformedamerica.com/moondoggie-1/This series, "Wagging the Moondoggie", by Dave McGowan (RIP, website: Center for an Informed America) - imo, easily the internet's greatest investigative reporter. This series is WORTHY. It has now been made into an audio.
I highly recommend it
I skimmed through all the sections. This guy did comprehensive research and makes it crystal clear that Apollo was a hoax. You Apollo believers are fools.
Well then...when are the history books going to be rewritten? You can't keep teaching school kids false history. And how much longer can this cover-up keep going on? Perhaps Trump might be the first to bring us the truth about the Apollo missions under his no more "fake news" platform? ?
Bad Wigins wrote:
you're not getting it wrote:
But by setting out to fix it, you are falling for the troll. This troll, like the flat-earth one (same guy on both) is designed so that ANYTHING you say to "fix" it has a ready-made response of nonsense. .
If you review my posts, you will see that only one is in response to the the troll in question, and the troll did not respond to me. I am discussing things with other people entirely. Not feeding the troll, but starving it! Also offering good advice to be a better troll.
Those who really can't stand trolling of any kind should find a way to avoid clicking threads about fake moon landings. Those who know the value of a good troll thread should join me in trying to improve it.
Hey BW, you had plenty to say to me on the other thread. Stop lying.
Another Joseph Milteer production?
Sound doesn't travel in a vacuum yet sounds are clearly heard in this 16 sec video. Stop believing in NASA fairy tales.
Yes I do BELIEVE NASA faked the moon landings (but wouldn't be me life on it).
The reasons I believe they faked them are quite a number. Here's a few that stand out to me:
1) All the computer tech they had back then is less than we have now on a calculator - you can't control a 6-9 million part machine with that little.
2) The video of the "final take off" from the Moon seems way too precision (with the capsule within the frame despite the ever-changing acceleration). The would-be camera was supposedly remote-controlled from Earth - just the time delay for the relaying of signals would seem to make that impossible.
3) The quality and content of the photos - taken from cameras attached to their space suits where they couldn't even see precisely what they were looking at.
4) The tiny amount of space within their capsules as compared to the necessary huge amount of space to take all that would have really been needed: lots of batteries (both primary and back-up), a lunar rover ...
5) The totally flimsy looking "walls" (seemingly connected by duct tape).
6) Photos that show parts of the Lunar Module clearly, when they were in the shadows and thus un-illuminated.
7) That the US was well over a decade behind the Soviets, yet "caught up" in just a very few years - while the Soviets never got there. (I don't find it convincing the claim that the Soviets would have exposed the farce - because there are endless examples of the buying off of politicians; if the price is right.)
8) We still don't have anything close to fold-up cars almost 50 years after they supposedly had ones they took to and drove on the Moon.
9) #1: The Van Allen Belts (and beyond) would require manned capsules to be enclosed by thick amounts of lead - something NASA has never claimed they had.
10) Related to "7)" and "9)" above: that no country has sent humans above LOW Earth Orbit since then.
I don't buy one bit that there supposedly no reason to go back to the Moon.
Bonus points: NASA supposedly lot almost all the original tapes (cartons and cartons of them) of what was supposedly THE most historic achievement humans ever made. That they didn't have/make copies and lost the only ones seems totally unreasonable. and ...
NOT ONE SINGLE FOTO WITH STARS IN IT! The sky from the Moon's surface should be blazing with stars at least some of the time when they were supposedly there. Yet they didn't manage to take ONE single foto of them? Not one? When just one would have been so convincing? (NASA even has art-work depicting a would-be Lunar view in which the sky is chock full of stars.
btw, the first time I started to doubt the Apollo missions was while they were going on. I was a very heavy-duty peace-justice organizer back then. I began to notice this very curious pattern of that whenever we scheduled major anti-Vietnam-War rallies, NASA scheduled their latest Apollo mission. This seemed to happen repeatedly. We'd put in all this work; even the press would predict we'd have huge turnouts - yet, seemingly due to the "successes" of the Apollo Program, many fewer turned out and we ended up talking more about Apollo than we did about the slaughter of 3 million innocent victims.
The timing began to seem too "coincidental".
I've seen a number of photos Dave McGowan took - top quality photos of 100s of scenes.
Have you heard of Jack White - he was a world-class photo-analyst and he specifically reviewed the Apollo Mission photos - exposing dozens and dozens of problems with them. (Including that on some of the missions they took so many photos that they would LITERALLY not have had time to do any of the other things they supposed did do; and photos from some missions which are copies of photos from other missions.
False history being taught in schools (in America and in every other country's schools) is SOP. In wars, the winners write the "history" - and they ALWAYS portray themselves as the good guys. In capitalist societies (all societies at the moment), each country is ruled by the super-rich of that country (or the super-rich of other, more powerful countries - using the super-rich of the local country as puppets). The history books, the mass media, everything important is controlled by THEM - and what the public is told is mostly either unimportant (though presented as important) or lies and distortions.
Your incredulity about false history being taught in schools is not a valid argument for anything except that you use credulilty-based arguments to try to get over.
As to The Dumpster (life-long close friend of Killery, btw - so much for the charade of choice between them); just like every other US President, he made a long string of promises he has not kept and had no plans of keeping. The Dumpster ranted on about "Make America Great Again" - REAL history tells us it was NEVER great; just the opposite ... the 10s of millions of Native Americans slaughtered, the 10s of millions of Africans enslaved (a high percentage of which was slaughtered in the process. The Japanese Internment camps (WWII); the killing of one Black person every 40 hours during Obummer's entire 8 years in office; the stealing of half of Mexico and then the restealing of that half from the people who lived there. The endless attacks on labor and unions.
Then there's the FACT that the US Gov as been at war for all but 16 years of its 241 years of existence, A HUMONGOUS SAMPLE SIZE. It's a PERMANENT WAR MACHINE. Is that super-important FACT taught in the schools? Have they ever once mentioned that the US Gov has killed more people since the end of WW2, than ALL the rest of the world combined?
Then there's the FACT that the American super-rich have gotten richer and more powerful for EVERY year of American history. Is that super-important FACT taught in the schools? Are kids taught that it makes ZERO difference who adults vote for - because ALL of the major party candidates have ALWAYS been puppets (if not members) of the American super-rich? We KNOW this to be true because otherwise the super-rich wouldn't ALWAYS get richer and more powerful.
Hey Pablo, thanks for your response. You definitely brought up several great examples. However, the the letsrun NASA shills will continue to insult, ignore, ridicule and immediately dismiss anything that runs counter to the official government narrative. The indoctrination is real, unfortunately.
Legit question wrote:
Hey Pablo, thanks for your response. You definitely brought up several great examples. However, the the letsrun NASA shills will continue to insult, ignore, ridicule and immediately dismiss anything that runs counter to the official government narrative. The indoctrination is real, unfortunately.
Awwww the poor trolly troll is frustrated no one believes his retarded websites and terrible third-rate explanations. :(
His poor feewings are hurty hurt because his trolly troll isn't working very well. :( :(
Pablo Novi wrote:
I've seen a number of photos Dave McGowan took - top quality photos of 100s of scenes.
Have you heard of Jack White - he was a world-class photo-analyst and he specifically reviewed the Apollo Mission photos - exposing dozens and dozens of problems with them. (Including that on some of the missions they took so many photos that they would LITERALLY not have had time to do any of the other things they supposed did do; and photos from some missions which are copies of photos from other missions.
Regarding Jack White, I have a link to his research here:
http://www.aulis.com/jackstudies_index1.htmlpathetic dipshit wrote:
Legit question wrote:
Hey Pablo, thanks for your response. You definitely brought up several great examples. However, the the letsrun NASA shills will continue to insult, ignore, ridicule and immediately dismiss anything that runs counter to the official government narrative. The indoctrination is real, unfortunately.
Awwww the poor trolly troll is frustrated no one believes his retarded websites and terrible third-rate explanations. :(
His poor feewings are hurty hurt because his trolly troll isn't working very well. :( :(
Hi NASA shill!
Legit question wrote:
Hi NASA shill!
Yeah, that's right. I work for NASA. Everyone does, except you. Because if we know the Earth isn't flat and that we went to the moon, we must be on the NASA payroll.
*rolls eyes*
God, you are freaking obtuse.
pathetic dipshit wrote:
Legit question wrote:
Hi NASA shill!
Yeah, that's right. I work for NASA. Everyone does, except you. Because if we know the Earth isn't flat and that we went to the moon, we must be on the NASA payroll.
*rolls eyes*
God, you are freaking obtuse.
No, you are brainwashed. You have no argument, you cannot provide any proof that we went to the moon. Sticks and stones- that's all you have, fool. Do some research.
Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not playing your troll. I understand the game. Getting me to spend time coming up with reasons that you refute with moronic third-rate wacko websites and YouTube videos. It's an endless back-and-forth that is the entire point of the troll. So go ahead and reply with "oh, I see you have nothing!" Yeah, sure. You win.