Farah 50.89 last lap

Gandalfthewhite wrote:

Farah has impressive stamina and relaxation while running. 14:10 is 73 seconds slower than the 12:53.11 he ran in 2011. Closer to his half marathon pace than 5k pace. This is why he could kick at basically full speed.

77 seconds slower

red flag!!!! you know nothing of his endurance at this point in time!!!!!! incorrect "analysis"!!!!!!!

Deanouk wrote:No scientific evidence supports 1 sec per lap difference, let alone 1.5 sec

nonsense

there is NO scientific evidence to support any other conversion you can claim

ron clarke said it was 1s/lap & he knows helluva lot more about world records & world record calibre running than any guy post war

for a chewed up track after a 10k race prior to it, a 1.5s/lap woud be an ungenerous estimate for anyone with a clue

It was a 36.6 in a 3:38.2

it was a 36.5 in a 3'38.2

Worth around 36.3 in a 3:36.4 on synthetic

nonsense

worth around

35.3 in a 3'32.5

which approaches Aouita's 36.1 in a 3:34.

aouita isn't even close even if that run is accurately reported

ventolin^3 wrote:

35.3 in a 3'32.5

Your arrogance to save face just makes you look more ludicrous.

No one else on here apart from your other handles would consider this humanly possible for a second.

Carry on making me laugh!

completely clueless

you can't even do basic arithmetic

your "brain" think that a chewed up track after a 10k had been run on it is the same as a pristine one ???

3'38.2 with 36.5

take off 1.5s/lap

or can't you do basic arithmetic ???

it is nothing about what is humanely possible

it's what the analysis leads to

only a fool believes in pre-conceived, unchanging human limitations

LOL.

It will be 2 secs per lap in the near future the way you go.

You gave Ryun 1:42 mid/3:28 about 5 years ago, now you have him at 1:39, 3:24.

the only one being able to go 1:42 in the 60s was Snell.

he ran 1:44.3 on grass which is worth 1.43 sec per lap

(Mondo track) leaving him with approximately 1:41.5.

solo!!

yyy wrote:

the only one being able to go 1:42 in the 60s was Snell.

he ran 1:44.3 on grass which is worth 1.43 sec per lap

(Mondo track) leaving him with approximately 1:41.5.

solo!!

It wasn't a solo run. He was paced to 400m.

Snell said at the time that the track was perfect and that a well kept grass track was faster than a well kept cinder track.

It was probably worth around 1:43 low, meaning he should have held the world record until 79.

shoe laces wrote:

At european team championships, 14:10 for 5k but pretty impressive speed no?

He won the race which is all that matters. His closing speed was impressive even off of the slow pace. I find it funny here that all of the letsrun.com experts (most of whom have never won a major race) criticize a double Olympic Gold Medal winner about the manner in which he wins a race.

Deanouk wrote:

yyy wrote:

the only one being able to go 1:42 in the 60s was Snell.

he ran 1:44.3 on grass which is worth 1.43 sec per lap

(Mondo track) leaving him with approximately 1:41.5.

solo!!

It wasn't a solo run. He was paced to 400m.

Snell said at the time that the track was perfect and that a well kept grass track was faster than a well kept cinder track.

It was probably worth around 1:43 low, meaning he should have held the world record until 79.

STOP IT RIGHT NOW!!!

There is already a Ryun debate thread that was supposed to be containing you two. Go use that thread and leave this one alone.

Hardy Har! wrote:

I hear Michael Johnson once closed with a 43.18 last lap.

Michael Johnson's best closing lap ever is actually 42.91.

Video of last 500:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtTJkbnABmg

1000 m splits:

http://la.sportresult.com/ajax/eaa2.asp?event_id=10013300000001&ctype_id=90&module=competition&show=RL&lang=en&display_compID=58088

Here is video of his final Lap. 50.89 looks impressive,

http://www.watchathletics.com/video/championships-games/1242/farah-clocks-50-89s-last-lap-in-the-5000m-race-in-gateshead/

That's nothing compared to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9-OrNfH8SQ

what//// wrote:

That's nothing compared to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9-OrNfH8SQ

Wow. Never seen that race before. He didn't start kicking until almost the back straightaway. And then let up way before the finish line and ran 53.03 and 12:48. Definitely worth at least 51.x.

Deanouk wrote:LOL.

It will be 2 secs per lap in the near future the way you go

nonsense

it's 1s/lap for a pristine dirt track - which few of ryun's runs were seeing as he normally ran in the highlight race usually towards the end of the meet

a track which had been chewed up by a 10k beforehand is going to be more - easily 1.5s/lap

a sodden track requiring a conveyor belt for the lj runway is going to be hugely more - 2s/lap is an ungenerous estimate for those conditions

You gave Ryun 1:42 mid/3:28 about 5 years ago, now you have him at 1:39, 3:24

nonsense

find a post by "ventolin" saying such

the pacing helped very little & was far to fast & he says he thought the suicidal 1st lap had "killed" chances of a wr

he obviously wanted a slower 1st lap as his 400 splits were 50.5/53.8 from contemporary newspaper

with standard 2s differential that musta been a ~ 1'44-flat

he said grass was faster than dirt but he wishes he was running on synthetics

probably worth 0.5s - 0.75s/lap to synthetic

meaning his time on synthetic with a standard 2s differential was in region of

~ 1'42.5 - 1'43.0

factor in that it was listed as a 350y track or ~ 320m, it wouda been much tighter than a standard 400 track worth probably about 1/2s handicap for 800m meaning his time woud be in region of

~ 1'42.0 - 1'42.5

no

more like

1'42.0 - 1'42.5

it is worth 1:41.5. Have you any idea of energy return expenditure

differences between grass and a modern (Mondo) track?

Research (this is physics, hence getting a bit difficult) suggests that it might be 6j/stride/square inch.

i'm very happy to see the "physics"...