Any live coverage?? Flotrack is gonna be there but for some retarded reason they're only broadcasting (live) the much less competitive Pre-Nat's field. (they'll have Wisco videos) Is someone else gonna capitalize on this great meet?
Any live coverage?? Flotrack is gonna be there but for some retarded reason they're only broadcasting (live) the much less competitive Pre-Nat's field. (they'll have Wisco videos) Is someone else gonna capitalize on this great meet?
Lukas will be top 10 guaranteed. I expect top 5. Puskedra was 5th at NCAA XC as a frosh at Oregon, and LV ran much better than Puskedra did in HS. Vin will know how to handle the kid.
rickybobby wrote:
Any live coverage?? Flotrack is gonna be there but for some retarded reason they're only broadcasting (live) the much less competitive Pre-Nat's field. (they'll have Wisco videos) Is someone else gonna capitalize on this great meet?
Just a guess -- it might be a Big Ten thing, with BTN, the Big Ten Network having a monopoly on all events at league schools outside of contracts through NCAA.
1. Lalang
2. Derrick
3. Puskedra
4. Estrada
5. Batty
6. Wisco-1
7. Riley
8. Wisco-2
9. Hill
10. Luke V
Teams:
1. Wisconsin-86
2. Stanford-119
3. Indiana-137
4. Oregon-194
5. BYU-211
6. NC State-227
lv always wins wrote: Lukas will win Wisconsin. Lukas will win NCAAs. Lukas has never lost a xc meet. Lukas always wins. Wait and see. He never loses.
There is no question, based on his incredible achievements last year, Lukas is a once-in-a-generation distance running phenomenon. He had a material advantage over his peers in every high school race in which he entered. And, last year was a VERY competitive year for high school distance runners with many seniors, and a few juniors, delivering performances that were among the best in years. Yet, no American runners could touch him.
That being said, Lukas's focus over the all-important summer, base-building period, has been on winning the World Junior Triathlon in Beijing (which he won). This undoubtedly puts him at a disadvantage coming in to his first race of the season. He likely won't quite be there, yet.
Look for a finish in the 20th - 25th place range, as Lukas is constrained by his lack of focus on cross country training.
Comments?
Alan Arkin wrote:
1. Lalang
2. Derrick
3. Puskedra
4. Estrada
5. Batty
6. Wisco-1
7. Riley
8. Wisco-2
9. Hill
10. Luke V
Teams:
1. Wisconsin-86
2. Stanford-119
3. Indiana-137
4. Oregon-194
5. BYU-211
6. NC State-227
You forgot to include Princeton and Donn Cabral in there.
Per indystar.com, IU men will be at Pre Nats
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Anyone know whether Joe Rosa is running on the Stanford squad? He had a pretty good debut race finishing 13th at the Stanford Invite running unattached- was in the lead pack for much of the race. Can't imagine him continuing to redshirt given that Stanford needs to throw everything they have at the 3-5 spots to have a chance at #1 this year.
"Does their coach need to be that smart and/or do the Wisconsin runners need to be that shielded from the "expectations" of having enough talent to win NCAA's so why wouldn't they win their home meet that they went out and recruited all these great teams to come to?"
This has nothing much to do with fashion and probably more to do with the training program and where they are at at this point in the season. My guess is that at this point in time they are most likely transitioning from high mileage to less and from long tempo runs to getting in some track work.
If you ever attempted to peak for a goal race, how long did you hold that peak? Probably not for 3 months.
Also, keep in mind that they most likely started this meet to host a high quality meet, stay at home, and not have to get into the Pre-Nats mess.
lv always wins wrote:
Lukas will win Wisconsin. Lukas will win NCAAs. Lukas has never lost a xc meet. Lukas always wins. Wait and see. He never loses.
you know, except for that 2010 new balance nationals 2 mile...
College XC Rocks wrote:
Anyone know whether Joe Rosa is running on the Stanford squad? He had a pretty good debut race finishing 13th at the Stanford Invite running unattached- was in the lead pack for much of the race. Can't imagine him continuing to redshirt given that Stanford needs to throw everything they have at the 3-5 spots to have a chance at #1 this year.
Not sure, but there is B race for unattached runners and those not in the top 7.
coach dbag wrote:
lv always wins wrote:Lukas will win Wisconsin. Lukas will win NCAAs. Lukas has never lost a xc meet. Lukas always wins. Wait and see. He never loses.
you know, except for that 2010 new balance nationals 2 mile...
Which part of XC do you not understand, the X? or the C?
One problem for unattached runners is that they are 'unattached' to the team and so have to transport themselves to the meet. If you are near by, that is not an issue, but for Stanford the kid (or family) would have to pay the airfare hotel etc.
As for Joe Rosa, his time would put him behind a lot of people here, which was not the case at the Stanford Invite; possibly in the 100s. Also, he was more of a 1 and 2-mile guy in high school than a long distance guy. 8000m here and 10,000 at NCAAs is going to be a bit far for him this early in his college career.
If the freaking race isn't on flotrack then were the f*** can i watch it??????????????????????? please ty
26mi235 wrote:
... Also, he was more of a 1 and 2-mile guy in high school than a long distance guy. 8000m here and 10,000 at NCAAs is going to be a bit far for him this early in his college career.
Where do you people get this stuff? Seriously.
Joe Rosa was better the longer the distance got. His Holmdel record completely blows away anything he did on the track. The longest distance high school kids race is the 5k in XC and that is where Joe Rosa was at his best.
More of a 1 and 2-mile guy?!? WTF? He sucked at the 1 mile (in relative terms).
Please educate yourself before posting.
I don't think Lukas V is running unless he takes Jermany E spot for the race. Looks like Oregon is redshirting thier whole 2010/11 class voted the best ever Cross Country class and that doesn't even include Elias Geydon who won't run Cross Country at Oregon till next year and is only doing indoor and outdoor track this year. So much for Oregon winning this race :( If they raced thier stud freshman they win this :(
EUGENE, Ore. - The Oregon cross country squads will join 39 men's teams and 41 women's teams for Friday's Wisconsin adidas Invitational at the new Thomas Zimmer Championship Course in Madison, Wis.
The men's race will feature 20 of the nation's top 30 teams, while the women's race has 19 ranked teams. The women's 6,000 meter race begins the day at 11 a.m. PDT, followed by the men's 8,000 meter race at 11:40 a.m.
Among the teams in the women's race is top-ranked Villanova, the defending NCAA champions. The women also feature No. 2 Providence, No. 6 Stanford, No. 7 New Mexico, No. 8 Syracuse, No. 9 Iowa State, No. 10 California, No. 12 Oregon, No. 13 North Carolina, No. 14 Arizona, No. 15 Michigan State, No. 21 Minnesota, No. 22 Florida, No. 23 Iowa, No. 24 Washington and No. 25 Notre Dame, among others.
Host Wisconsin is the top-ranked team in the men's competition; the No. 2 Badgers won the Bill Dellinger Invitational Oct. 1 at the Springfield Country Club. Behind them are No. 4 Stanford, No. 6 Brigham Young, No. 7 Indiana, No. 9 North Carolina State, No. 10 Oregon, No. 13 Northern Arizona, No. 14 Princeton, No. 16 Georgetown, No. 17 Minnesota, No. 19 Villanova, No. 21 Syracuse, No. 22 UCLA, No. 23 Arizona State, No. 24 Providence and No. 25 New Mexico.
The Wisconsin adidas Invitational could mark the season debut a number of Oregon runners, including 2010 Pac-10 women's champion and NCAA third-place finisher Jordan Hasay and men's NCAA third-place finisher Luke Puskedra. Freshmen Lukas Verzbicas and Jeramy Elkaim could also see their first varsity action as Ducks, while junior Anne Kesselring could open up for the women.
WISCONSIN ADIDAS INVITATIONAL WOMEN'S RACE
Time: 11 a.m. PDT
Length: 6,000 Meters
Results:
www.uwbadgers.com/www.goducks.com
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Teams (42): Air Force, Arizona, Arizona State, Boston College, Brigham Young, California, Clemson, Florida, Georgia, Harvard, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Iowa State, James Madison, Kansas, Michigan State, Minnesota, Nebraska, New Mexico, Northern Arizona, North Carolina, North Carolina State, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oregon, Princeton, Providence, Purdue, San Francisco, Stanford, Stony Brook, Syracuse, Texas A&M, Toledo, UCLA, Vanderbilt, Villanova, Washington, William & Mary, Wisconsin.
Oregon Entries: Look for season debuts from 2010 Pac-10 champion Jordan Hasay and junior Anne Kesselring. The Ducks will also travel seniors Bronwyn Crossman and Claire Michel, juniors Becca Friday and Sarah Penney, sophomore Lanie Thompson and freshman Molly Grabill to Madison.
At a Glance: With 19 of the top 30 teams in the nation in attendance, this will be the premier regular season meet of 2011. Teams will battle for every place available, as head-to-head competition will be a key factor when the NCAA determines at-large bids following the Nov. 12 regional meets.
WISCONSIN ADIDAS INVITATIONAL MEN'S RACE
Time: 11:40 a.m. PDT
Length: 8,000 Meters
Results:
www.uwbadgers.com/www.goducks.com
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Teams (40): Air Force, Arizona, Arizona State, Brigham Young, California, Clemson, Florida, Georgetown, Georgia, Harvard, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Iowa State, Kansas, Lamar, Marquette, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Nebraska, New Mexico, Northern Arizona, North Carolina, North Carolina State, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oregon, Princeton, Providence, Purdue, Stanford, Syracuse, Texas, Texas A&M, UCLA, Villanova, Washington, William & Mary, Wisconsin.
Oregon Entries: Senior Luke Puskedra slated to make his 2011 season debut. Freshman Jeramy Elkaim could also make his varsity debut for the Ducks. Other entries include sophomores Ben DeJarnette, Mitchell Hunt, Brian Shrader and Parker Stinson and freshman Ryan Pickering.
At a Glance: With 20 of the top 30 teams in the nation in attendance, like the women's competition, this will be the premier regular season meet of 2011. Teams will battle for every place available, as head-to-head competition will be a key factor when the NCAA determines at-large bids following the Nov. 12 regional meets.
PAC-10 DOMINANCE
In the last half century, no other conference can match the league's combined 19 NCAA men's and women's team championships in cross country.
Combined NCAA Team Titles by Conference, 1958-present
19 Pacific-10 Conference
14 Big East Conference
13 Southeastern Conference
10 Big XII
9 Conference USA
8 Big Ten
LOOKING AHEAD
The Ducks compete at the Beaver Classic on Oct. 22 before the championship season begins with the Pac-12 meet Oct. 29 at Arizona State. That will be followed by the NCAA West Regional Nov. 12 at Stanford and the NCAA Championships Nov. 21 in Terre Haute, Ind.
AN OVERVIEW OF THE TEAMS
WOMEN
The Ducks return eight talented letterwinners, including 2010 Pac-10 champion and NCAA third-place finisher Jordan Hasay, for the 2011 season. That's the good news for Oregon.
On the flip side, the 2010 season saw the closest conference race in league history, where the top four teams finished within six points of each other, and now 2011 welcomes distance power Colorado into the mix for the inaugural Pac-12 Championships.
It means that Oregon will need all of that talent and depth to once again challenge at the conference and national levels.
Hasay, a junior from Arroyo Grande, Calif., had a dynamite sophomore season both on and off the track. She was named the Pac-10's cross country runner of the year, and her third-place showing at the NCAA meet last fall was the best by a Duck in nearly 30 years.
She'll lead a team that will have to overcome the graduation of two-time All-American Alex Kosinski and NCAA veteran Zoe Buckman.
Stepping up behind Hasay will be sophomore Lanie Thompson, who was the team's most consistent runner behind Hasay and Kosinski in 2010, including a 16th-place finish at the Pac-10 meet.
Oregon also has NCAA veterans in seniors Bronwyn Crossman and Claire Michel, junior Anne Kesselring and sophomore Sarah Andrews, while juniors Becca Friday and Taylor Wallace both have Pac-10 cross country championships experience.
The women also to look to be able to add depth from a pair of talented distance newcomers in freshmen Molly Grabill (Poway, Calif.) and Allie Woodward (Green Bay, Wis.).
There are also middle distance runners Phyllis Francis (Laurelton, N.Y.), Megan Patrignelli (Monroe, N.Y.) and Laura Roesler (Fargo, N.D.), who all redshirted the 2010 season, on the roster, as well as true freshman Claudia Francis (Laurelton, N.Y.).
The Ducks have also added senior transfer Kimber Mattox to the roster. The Bend, Ore., native was a Division III cross country All-American as a junior in 2010 for Willamette University.
MEN
Senior Luke Puskedra figures to lead a talented group of youngsters into the 2011 cross country season.
Puskedra, from Ogden, Utah, had his finest season as a Duck in 2010 as he finished third at the NCAA Championships and fourth at the Pac-10 Championships. He should again be positioned for a high finish at the conference and national meets.
Beyond Puskedra, the Ducks will largely be a team of freshmen and sophomores who will look to fill a number of openings left by the graduation of All-Americans A.J. Acosta, Matthew Centrowitz and Danny Mercado.
There are some experienced runners on the team, such as senior Chris Kwiatkowski who finished 24th at the Pac-10 Championships in 2010, as well as junior Bryce Burgess, a two-time Pac-10 competitor and a 2010 NCAA West Regional qualifier.
But the bulk of the team will be youngsters. Sophomores Ben DeJarnette, from Mechanicsville, Va., and Parker Stinson, from Austin, Texas, both ran in all three championship races for the Ducks as freshmen in 2010.
Fellow sophomore Brian Shrader was also a Pac-10 and NCAA championships performer last fall. Sophomore Mac Fleet redshirted the 2010 cross country season but was a Pac-10 competitor in 2009. Sophomore Mitchell Hunt also was a Pac-10 qualifier in 2010.
Oregon will have a bounty of freshmen and redshirt freshmen competing for roster spots. Highly touted newcomer Lukas Verzbicas (Orland Park, Ill.) leads that list. Other true freshmen to watch include Chris Brewer (Vista, Calif.), Jeramy Elkaim (Livingston, N.J.), Russell Hornsby (Williamsburg, Va.), Matthew Jablonski (Cockeysville, Md.), Matt Melancon (Eugene, Ore.), Chad Noelle (Greene, N.Y.) and Ryan Pickering (West Palm Beach, Fla.).
The redshirt freshmen include Colby Alexander (Strongsville, Ohio), Boru Guyota (Portland, Ore.), Cole Watson (Rogue River, Ore.) and Daniel Winn (Portland, Ore.).
In recent seasons, the men have experienced success on a national level rarely seen in Track Town, USA. Oregon won back-to-back NCAA titles in 2007 and 2008, and followed that with a runner-up finish in 2009. Those results harken back to the era of the legendary Steve Prefontaine, when the Ducks won national titles in 1971, 1973 and 1974, were second in 1970 and third in 1972.
that's not what his tweet says:
LukasVerzbicas Lukas Verzbicas
Flying out to Wisconsin! Racing Friday but already getting antsy #preracejitters
The Answer My Friend wrote:
coach dbag wrote:you know, except for that 2010 new balance nationals 2 mile...
Which part of XC do you not understand, the X? or the C?
"Lukas always wins...He never loses." That sounds pretty general to me, so I was correct. And I didn't understand the X.
Didn't peruse those results from Dellinger now did we. I thought that the five Wisconsin guys ran all together, a sign that they were not maxed out. By contrast, the Ducks were spread over the field with modest success, but nothing to indicate that there is enough firepower in the 3/4/5 runners to avoid a score way over 100 (which might be hit by their #5 guy by himself). LV is good but his 5000 (14:12? indoors) is not really competitive with Mo Ahmed's 13:34 and Mo is better at 10,000 than the 5k, which is not (yet) true for LV. To think that LV is going to dust Estrada and Lalang is getting into the delusional range. We will know in less than 48 hours.
Oregon has some freaking hot lady Cross Country runners :)
http://image.cdnl3.xosnetwork.com/pics32/800/ZK/ZKBKWGYSNEPOJML.20111001220243.jpg
