1 in 4 fail U.S. Army exam (basic questions such as 2 + x = 4). Too bad.

Runningart2004 wrote:

ASVAB scores wrote:

A 98 on the ASVAB does not mean you scored better than 98% of test takers. I certainly did not score better than 138% of test takers.

What are you even talking about? 138? You might have gotten your GT score confused with your AFQT score. GT of 138 is rock solid, mine was like 140 or 144, something like that.

I was refering to your earlier post.

Runningart2004 wrote:

For the record I scored a 98 on the ASVAB, 293 on the APFT (best run in the company) and scored Sharpshooter on my BRM.

When people in the Army talk about ASVAB scores they generally are refering to GT score. Been in for a few years and have never heard of anyone refer to their AFQT score. No unit I've been in has ever even asked for it. GT is all anyone cares about. GT max is 140 so a 144 is not possible.

You want the high scores for the non-infantry jobs many of which are very technical and involve no combat or very low combat risk. The dumb asses should be infantry soldiers that have to walk into bullets and grenades and die for Israel.

From 1974 through 1999, the time that I served, we were led to believe that all of these tests,ASVAB, screenings of various kinds, MOS schools, PT tests and all that was so as not to repeat the Mcnamaras 100,000..

It wasn't anything like mrr says...on the contrary.

We were told that the country could not afford sending anyone ill prepared either physically or mentally off to war and seeing what we saw after Viet Nam with what became of those poor souls afterwards...

The only reason ASVAB, PT Scores and the rest are not emphasized anymore (I don't think they are...)

is that our leaders up the chain of command were not honest with us about why guys...I mean good soldiers were being weeded out for stupid reasons in the previous years.

I saw scores of men discharged because they were a little overweight or missed a pushup or didn't quite break the plane like the test and evaluation film showed...crazy stuff.

I maxed nearly every PT test ever given me, but I saw many soldiers, a hell of alot better than me, lose their jobs over stupid insincere, capricious standards.

Thanks, Alan. I generally try to keep my trap shut, but this discussion has just been silly. Maybe we should start one about the cultural battle amongst the Igorot peoples of the Philippine Highlands. I'm certain that some knucklehead here would passionately chime in.

The system is broken and wastes 100Bs per year. The Pentagon should be broken up into six branches, AF, CG, NV, MC, and the new Army Support and Army Infantry branches. NV, AF, and 85% of the old Army constitute Support Services. Fighter Pilots, IED displosal, Nurses, Helo Pilots, Truck Drivers, office and warehouse workers are Support Services. The Marines and Army Infantry constitute the Infantry Services. Offensive Soldiers, Marines, and Combat Medics are Infantry Services. This means the Army is broken up into two branches, the Army Support branch and the Army Infantry branch. The Marines use the Navy for support, supplies, and air lift. As before, Marine pilots would continue to serve as infantry officers and pilots.