...the science on bicarb isn't vague at all. In fact it's very clear and well established that bicarb is an effective ergogenic aid via buffering of the hydrogen ions that you mention.
It is vague. We have a natural bicarbonate buffering system. Obviously if you ask AI, you will get a lot of advertising and research papers promoting the exogenous ingestion of bicarbonate. But these responses leave out important information about what's really happening in your muscles and promulgate the old 'lactic acidosis' half truths.
He (rightly) tells Rekrunner how absurd it is to claim that all the tens of thousands of athletes who have taken peds didn't realize that they "don't work" (according to Rekkie).
Not according to me. I would never make any absurd contradictory claim that PEDs don't work. If tens of thousands of athletes are taking a "drug" that "works", then we can rightfully call it a PED.
My claims are much more nuanced than these shallow baseless conclusions.
He (rightly) tells Rekrunner how absurd it is to claim that all the tens of thousands of athletes who have taken peds didn't realize that they "don't work" (according to Rekkie).
Not according to me. I would never make any absurd contradictory claim that PEDs don't work. If tens of thousands of athletes are taking a "drug" that "works", then we can rightfully call it a PED.
My claims are much more nuanced than these shallow baseless conclusions.
Go on then, give us some nuance. But please keep it brief.
So when was your mythological golden age of running?
There never was one. Sport, like any community, has always required rules, the support for rules, and the enforcement of rules. We just happen to have lived into the age of abdication, when international sports and most other organizations no longer have the courage to honor support the clear lineage of the sport in a meaningful manner.
So when was your mythological golden age of running?
There never was one. Sport, like any community, has always required rules, the support for rules, and the enforcement of rules. We just happen to have lived into the age of abdication, when international sports and most other organizations no longer have the courage to honor support the clear lineage of the sport in a meaningful manner.
Doesn't need to be banned. My kid tried it for the first time in a race and ran mediocre. It's not magic.
So when was your mythological golden age of running?
There never was one. Sport, like any community, has always required rules, the support for rules, and the enforcement of rules. We just happen to have lived into the age of abdication, when international sports and most other organizations no longer have the courage to honor support the clear lineage of the sport in a meaningful manner.
Stop insinuating and get to the freakin point already. What exactly are you whining about?
There never was one. Sport, like any community, has always required rules, the support for rules, and the enforcement of rules. We just happen to have lived into the age of abdication, when international sports and most other organizations no longer have the courage to honor support the clear lineage of the sport in a meaningful manner.
Stop insinuating and get to the freakin point already. What exactly are you whining about?
The pharmaceutical and mechanical advantages the IAAF has failed to declare illegal have made this a boring sport. Is that clear enough for you?
Did you run XC and track when you were in school? “Mentality” isn’t worth even a fraction of a second. In a fast paced race with better runners, no matter what a runner is thinking, there will be a point where it becomes impossible to keep up.
Opportunity would be a better word. These fast track races are well organised and the best young runners are seizing the moment to show the world just how good they are.
And they are.
So young athletes never thought that until now? Really?
It isn't shoes and it isn't bicarb. These have only a marginal effect. The biggest jumps are achieved through doping. It has always been so but doping is now truly in the space age. Science meets sport.
Have you tried training and racing in super shoes compared to regular shoes?
Have you tried using Maurten bicarb?
Have you tried racing with pacing lights?
Have you tried racing on the BU track?
If you haven't tried any of these things, then you speak from a position of ignorance.
Have you tried training and racing in super shoes compared to regular shoes?
Have you tried using Maurten bicarb?
Have you tried racing with pacing lights?
Have you tried racing on the BU track?
If you haven't tried any of these things, then you speak from a position of ignorance.
He (rightly) tells Rekrunner how absurd it is to claim that all the tens of thousands of athletes who have taken peds didn't realize that they "don't work" (according to Rekkie). Yet he himself dismisses the first-hand experience of all the runners (from pros to hobby joggers) who can feel how different and faster the super shoes are.
There are those here who have said they gained nothing from it. So what are you going to say to them?
Baking soda is as old as the sport. It is found on every supermarket shelf and in every kitchen. It isn't a ped any more than coffee or a chocolate bar. If it was it would be on the banned list for conferring unfair advantage. That's what doping means.
If supershoes have transformed the sport then every runner would be wearing them and there would be only one brand. There isn't and runners choose different shoes. Flojo's, Kratochvilova's and E G's records still stand - without the benefit of bicarb or supershoes.
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The naivety of this place is in thinking ambitious athletes will only avail themselves of an inferior form of technology - bicarb or whatever - to a known ped. Further, if there is a real super shoe it would be the only kind of shoe any athlete would use. It isn't.
There is the assumption that these younger athletes would never dope , that responsibility falls onto parents or coach etc and that modern peds are very different to older methods So no problem enhancing their teen if see little risk to health and future adult development.