Alberto never ran anywhere near to 3:42 in a 1500. I dont even recall him running a 4:02 mile.
As far as those Oregon workouts you're citing none of them indicate anything. The 30/40 workout was rarely done, maybe 2-3 times a year max. It was a strength workout anyway.
30/30s were done often, but is was mostly as a half-assed workout anyway, typically Mondays after an easy run, but only 8-12 of them. I'll admit that Dellinger once told me if you did 16 of them he thought you were ready to run 4:00., but I thought he was being generous with that assessment.
Bill watched me do 20 30/30s during marathon training. (29.2/30) and told me Pre did 24 of them once. I said that I heard about that and thought that I could've done 24 if I wanted to show off, but thats not my style.
I believe Alberto did run a 4:02 mile; I don't know when and where he did it, but I am pretty sure he did it because he told me in front of a group of people. He wasn't saying it to brag, he said it in a self-deprecating way to indicate his lack of speed. I suspect he ran that time either in college or early in his career because he also stated he could run a little faster than that around the time he ran the AR in 5000. In the 90s, prior to nop, Alberto was active on the clinic / speaking circuit where he openly spoke about everything, Btw, probably less than half of track meet results from the 1980s are online. I've run in meets where the results where kelp on clip board and only the top 3 were published in the local newspaper and God only know where rest of the results are.
Could have just converted that 3:44 for the audience. In the some people think he can't break 60 but can run 1500m at a faster pace. Doesn't seem remotely realistic
Magnificently stupid and dishonest to rely on Artificial Ignoramous. What AI actually says is: "He did not run a time of 3:42 in a major race, as this is a fast time for a 1,500-meter or a mile event, not his primary distance events"
Alberto ran a 3:44.6 1500 in 1979.
And you said that "of course I meant 30/40 not 30/30?" How can you be so willfully stupid? I told you 30/30s because that's the workout I ran on September 9th 1985. And Bill Dellinger struck up a conversation with me on the track afterwards. Are you telling me I don't know what I ran? Did Dellinger say something different?
Don't tell me about what you read on Dyestat. You're getting it from the horses mouth. That should be good enough for you. Don't ever attempt to speak for me again.
Lighten up. OK, I guess there was a 30/30 workout but the famous workout was 30/40. The latter would result in 70 second laps the hard way. How did 30/30 work?
I heard the same story about Pre maintaining the workout for more laps than anyone else and I’m positive it was 30/40.
You guess there was a was a 30/30 workout? It was done almost weekly. Like I said, it was done as a half-assed effort, usually on Mondays after an easy run of 7-10 miles. The 30/40 was famous on Dyestat I presume, but it was rarely done, perhaps 2-3 times in an entire year. Alberto told me that about the 30/40 workout, not some kiddo on Dyestat. Was Alberto lying to me?
How did the 30/30 work? For someone who professes to know everything about Oregon/Salazar you don't know how the 30/30 workout goes?
Usually once a week on Mondays. Runners split up separately into small groups of 3-4, either before or after an easy 7-10 miler. Then they run a 200 (actually 220y) in 30s. In the time it takes to turnaround and jog back to the start, 30s, run the next 220. Continue that until you're done. There was no prescribed number of reps required but most did 8-12 of them, leaving them invigorated, not worn-out. In a nutshell it's 30s 200s on a 30s count.
You can try this workout on your own. Just set your watch to go off every 30s. There's nothing difficult to figure out.
Even during marathon training I used to do that work often. Usually, it was 16 of them with that 20 thrown in one day. Here are some examples of what I did weekly one Summer: 12, 12, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 20, 10, 16, 12, 10. Before that streak I was running 200 repeats (@30s) with 200 jog (@70s) 16/24 times.
Try it. It's fun.
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The writing above is a master-class on post modern, schizoid, narrative expressionism. Jack Kerouac would be proud of his influence no doubt. I even detect a pinch of Hemingway and Steinbeck in the above writing style. Everything about the above essay is brilliant; from the delusional insertion of Dahl into the pro and collegiate running scenes, to the anachronism of Dahl racing in the 80s, to the unreliable fake expertise, to the lurid fictional realism of Dahl’s fourth paragraph, to Dahl’s inevitable retreat into his narcissistic egomania which he details in his last few sentences. Barrett Dahl should be nominated for the Nobel Prize in Literature. He may have no other redeeming qualities, but I have to give credit where it is due.
I would think that with your family being such rich oil barons as you claim, that they would have gotten you some of the very best treatment for your mental health psychosis. If they own all these oil fields then they could have gotten you the best doctors that oil money can buy years ago.
I would think that with your family being such rich oil barons as you claim, that they would have gotten you some of the very best treatment for your mental health psychosis. If they own all these oil fields then they could have gotten you the best doctors that oil money can buy years ago.
The roller coaster hills in that area remind me alot of Pennsylvania where I ran back in the 80s. I would often see college runners jogging by, either from university of Pennsylvania or Penn state. Not sure where they were from. I assume they were from U of P because I was good friends with the penn state coach and he was never with them on a bike or anything.
He now claims he was running in Pennsylvania back in the 80s before he was born. He was good friends with the Penn State coach but doesn't know the name of the coach? The idiot doesn't realize that the U of P team would have never been running together anywhere near those "roller coaster hills" of his imagination.
Barrett Dahl is a mimic. He's been looking me up then saying that he ran in all of the places and events that I did. Including the steeplechase, NCAA XC at Denton TX. Now running in Pennsylvania before he was born. Insane.
I would think that with your family being such rich oil barons as you claim, that they would have gotten you some of the very best treatment for your mental health psychosis. If they own all these oil fields then they could have gotten you the best doctors that oil money can buy years ago.
The roller coaster hills in that area remind me alot of Pennsylvania where I ran back in the 80s. I would often see college runners jogging by, either from university of Pennsylvania or Penn state. Not sure where they were from. I assume they were from U of P because I was good friends with the penn state coach and he was never with them on a bike or anything.
He now claims he was running in Pennsylvania back in the 80s before he was born. He was good friends with the Penn State coach but doesn't know the name of the coach? The idiot doesn't realize that the U of P team would have never been running together anywhere near those "roller coaster hills" of his imagination.
Barrett Dahl is a mimic. He's been looking me up then saying that he ran in all of the places and events that I did. Including the steeplechase, NCAA XC at Denton TX. Now running in Pennsylvania before he was born. Insane.
OH GOD!! I just freaking lost it in an outburst of laughter. I had no idea. It’s no wonder you hate him so much. Who could blame you. Yesterday it was UTEP he ran for in the eighties and now Penn State! He’s a malmo imposter, trying to take credit for your accomplishments. You have to be incensed with this guy. As insane as he is, one has to admit that his post you deleted a few minutes ago was pretty funny. Now he is claiming that his family is comprised of rich oil barons and that he has a summer home in Park City. I couldn’t stop laughing at how elaborate his fake details are.
I would think that with your family being such rich oil barons as you claim, that they would have gotten you some of the very best treatment for your mental health psychosis.
There is definitely money in the family. His sister and her husband are both doctors on the faculty of a major university medical school. Don't know what his parents did for work but he certainly grew up in a house with money. My guess is they just send him a check once in a while to keep him afloat and run races to keep himself busy. Based on what I have seen, there seems to be no connection online with his family. Sites I have seen list his parents and sister but never list him as a relative. I wonder if they just make a complete break after whatever incident lead to the court filing. That was 9 years ago.
I would think that with your family being such rich oil barons as you claim, that they would have gotten you some of the very best treatment for your mental health psychosis.
There is definitely money in the family. His sister and her husband are both doctors on the faculty of a major university medical school. Don't know what his parents did for work but he certainly grew up in a house with money. My guess is they just send him a check once in a while to keep him afloat and run races to keep himself busy. Based on what I have seen, there seems to be no connection online with his family. Sites I have seen list his parents and sister but never list him as a relative. I wonder if they just make a complete break after whatever incident lead to the court filing. That was 9 years ago.
I kind of assumed that something like that was the case, because collecting SSDI for being crazy wouldn’t be enough to buy all the crap he has in his YouTube videos. I figured somebody has been bankrolling crazy man. And if his sister is really a doctor, it’s a shame she is so medically irresponsible to be enabling him like that.
I grew up in New Holland PA, and my mom's house is down the street from Shady Maple. There are no f---ing oil fields anywhere near there. You lying idiot.
I grew up in New Holland PA, and my mom's house is down the street from Shady Maple. There are no f---ing oil fields anywhere near there. You lying idiot.
And another giveaway, and I could be wrong here, but the Amish wouldn’t consent to having an oil company drill directly on their land would they? I can’t quite make out from his writing if he means just a pipeline through Amish country or the oil dig sites themselves. I could see an underground pipeline, but I doubt an Amish society would allow Dahl’s make believe oil company to dig there on multiple sites. They are pretty anti-industrial and you need electricity to run all the equipment. It’s a dead giveaway that his story is all lies. It’s so funny though.
So now his claim is that he was raised at and trained at moderate altitude and that is how he was able to set all of his fake high school and collegiate PRs. The lying never ends with this guy.
About the Amish and similar groups, are you sure they work in the oil industry? They have strict community guidelines about what occupations they can do if they want to live in the community, and they don’t believe in working with or using electricity. How would they work in the oil industry?
The Marathon is Unusual And has nothing to do with the 400, Extreme Example Alberto Salazar Was The best Marathoner in the World for like 3 Years in the 400, He even had The 10000 American Record and ran a 4:02 Mile, But they say He could never break 60 Seconds/1Minute in the 400 even with a Running Start, So in his prime he was The best in the USA in the 10000 and best in The World in the Marathon, Yet Dozens of 10 Year old Girls Could have Smoked him in the 400
1. Very few 10-year-old girls if any can run 400 m in 60 Seconds
2. Alberto ran 3000 m in just under 7:44 which is around High 61 per lap let's say 62 per lap.
Going by the above in an all-out 400 m one can assume Alberto might have ran 56 to 58 seconds.
sal was step for step with chappa AR 3000m which was a top time in the world.
sal also as a young fellow had a nice flowing style, before his ultra efficient shuffle, which is an absolute disaster for 400 m. to mid d.
so sal at age 19, could easily run a 53 400, without specialization.
4 min mile guys can run min 53. guys like david bedford, coming back in a slower race closed in 56, so even those work horses speed is under rated.
john treacy out sprinted ovett, as he was waving,?caught in the stretch. poed treacy looked like he wanted to punch ovett in the mouth for arrogant disrespect.
sure some guys are slooow, but dont over do it, ehen a guy runs 5k near world record, there is a bit of soeed there.
sure a maniac like salazar after a 160 mile week, run into the ground might fine a 60 second quarter quick. that is about it.