I think the bigger issue that everyone is ignoring is that valby seems to “almost” quit the sport every time she’s not winning. Lol.
I’ll say it, the bigger issue is that she looks bigger. Female bodies change, it is biology. It will be harder to go against that. The power to weight ratio has altered for her.
I’ll say it, the bigger issue is that she looks bigger. Female bodies change, it is biology. It will be harder to go against that. The power to weight ratio has altered for her.
He has had one athlete on EPO, the Indian miler (Singh?) who for all we know doped without Palmer even knowing. If Palmer was suspected of implementing a doping program, he would have been investigated and fired by now.
I wouldn't write her off so quickly. This is a question that only Parker herself can answer. It is a matter if she really wants to. I think she has the talent to do so.
Why wouldn’t want to run as well as she possibly can?
I think you are missing a subject there, but I will assume that you are referring to Valby. To answer your question, life happens and sometimes running loses it's importance. Career, marriage, children... who knows? Circumstances change.
Why wouldn’t want to run as well as she possibly can?
I think you are missing a subject there, but I will assume that you are referring to Valby. To answer your question, life happens and sometimes running loses its importance. Career, marriage, children... who knows? Circumstances change.
Why single her out while using a tired cliche that you later defined? I know a lot of guys that avoided life happens and worked part-time while they chased the marathon Olympic trials QT.
Can you name athletes with her ability that walked away from the sport? Would you?
My first thought was she didn't look sickly thin, you know, sorta healthy looking. Unfortunately, that means she won't win world class distance races. I wish her good health and a good career, whether it be running or something else.
My first thought was she spent a lot of time with Coburn and now her frame is more like Coburn. They would have eaten many meals together, and likely talked about food, nutrition and core training.
yeah, coburn, what a slacker, what is it, olympic medal, worlds gold and silver. yep, kids, be careful who you hang around.
the misleading aspect to this argument is you could be coleman or athing mu or any of our top people, and the US trials system will leave you by the roadside just the same if you fall off a little, get hurt, or catch the slightest banana peel. this is not unique to valby.
Allie Ostrander is a three time ncaa steeple champion, a top ten Olympic trials finisher, and incredibly versatile multi surface strength runner with numerous other achievements. She is far more than just another running influencer. She is a pro with a long pedigree of accomplishments. You have real nerve calling her an orangutan when you are clearly the one who is as dumb as an oragnutan.
Did Allie win a Alaskan processing boat foosball tournament you wish hype about too? steeple? Really? 10 years ago when Allie was participating, Rhonda Rousey could have won a steeplechase. Steeple was like a rec league for hacky sack junkies who tested positive for THC. She still runs the exact same times today at steeple that she ran in college and can't make a final in any national level event. She is a pacer last year and then ran against 2 girls who couldn't break 10 minutes for 3k. Get back on her Youtube before you miss what macaroni and cheese she is boiling tonight.
So it’s obvious that you watch her YouTube channel religiously. And you’re probably filling up her YouTube comments section with hateful blatherjust to be a dick. Get a life.
I think you are missing a subject there, but I will assume that you are referring to Valby. To answer your question, life happens and sometimes running loses its importance. Career, marriage, children... who knows? Circumstances change.
Why single her out while using a tired cliche that you later defined? I know a lot of guys that avoided life happens and worked part-time while they chased the marathon Olympic trials QT.
Can you name athletes with her ability that walked away from the sport? Would you?
Dude, it's not that deep. Relax. I am not singling Valby out, but she happens to be the subject of this thread. Very few elite Athletes are able to perform at their A+ level, 100% of the time. Rare exceptions might be Usain Bolt or the pole vaulter Mondo.
In terms of elite athletes who walked away, I can think of a few. Basketball great Michael Jordan was only 30, Tennis star Bjorn Borg was only 26, Baseball legend Sandy Koufax was only 30, and NFL player Pat Tillman left a lucrative contract to join the US Army, later being KIA in Afghanistan (Talk about a change in priorities!).
Jim Ryun walked away from track at the age of 26, stating that he was tired of hearing his young daughter always saying "Daddy has gone running."
Finally, I walked out of a position in a law firm. I value more being able to go out for a run during my lunch hour, and having my evenings and weekends free. Do I miss the multiple six-figure income and the huge bonuses? Sometimes. But peace of mind is worth more.
Why single her out while using a tired cliche that you later defined? I know a lot of guys that avoided life happens and worked part-time while they chased the marathon Olympic trials QT.
Can you name athletes with her ability that walked away from the sport? Would you?
Dude, it's not that deep. Relax. I am not singling Valby out, but she happens to be the subject of this thread. Very few elite Athletes are able to perform at their A+ level, 100% of the time. Rare exceptions might be Usain Bolt or the pole vaulter Mondo.
In terms of elite athletes who walked away, I can think of a few. Basketball great Michael Jordan was only 30, Tennis star Bjorn Borg was only 26, Baseball legend Sandy Koufax was only 30, and NFL player Pat Tillman left a lucrative contract to join the US Army, later being KIA in Afghanistan (Talk about a change in priorities!).
Jim Ryun walked away from track at the age of 26, stating that he was tired of hearing his young daughter always saying "Daddy has gone running."
Finally, I walked out of a position in a law firm. I value more being able to go out for a run during my lunch hour, and having my evenings and weekends free. Do I miss the multiple six-figure income and the huge bonuses? Sometimes. But peace of mind is worth more.
You’re comparing working in a law firm to being an Olympic athlete? I’ve heard of attorneys working 80 hour a week to meet minimum billable hour requirements in the hope of becoming a partner some day. For any competitive runner, having Valby’s talent would be living the dream. Assuming you were a competitive distance runner, and had her talent, you would quit be because of life happening?
Jordan played until age 39. When it comes to great tennis players, Borg quitting at that age was extremely rare and he later regretted it. His motivation was no longer being able to beat McEnroe. Koufax was told by doctors that he could lose the use of his arm if he continued pitching. Ryun was running for free and past his prime when he retired. In addition, he had competed in a professional track league and could no longer compete against amateurs. Going overseas to see combat wasn’t one the reasons you gave as to why Valby might quit distance running.
The opposite of what you suggest is closer to the truth. Most athletes continue to compete well past their prime and guys in the major team sports will compete until they’re pushed out the door.
Dude, it's not that deep. Relax. I am not singling Valby out, but she happens to be the subject of this thread. Very few elite Athletes are able to perform at their A+ level, 100% of the time. Rare exceptions might be Usain Bolt or the pole vaulter Mondo.
In terms of elite athletes who walked away, I can think of a few. Basketball great Michael Jordan was only 30, Tennis star Bjorn Borg was only 26, Baseball legend Sandy Koufax was only 30, and NFL player Pat Tillman left a lucrative contract to join the US Army, later being KIA in Afghanistan (Talk about a change in priorities!).
Jim Ryun walked away from track at the age of 26, stating that he was tired of hearing his young daughter always saying "Daddy has gone running."
Finally, I walked out of a position in a law firm. I value more being able to go out for a run during my lunch hour, and having my evenings and weekends free. Do I miss the multiple six-figure income and the huge bonuses? Sometimes. But peace of mind is worth more.
You’re comparing working in a law firm to being an Olympic athlete? I’ve heard of attorneys working 80 hour a week to meet minimum billable hour requirements in the hope of becoming a partner some day. For any competitive runner, having Valby’s talent would be living the dream. Assuming you were a competitive distance runner, and had her talent, you would quit be because of life happening?
Jordan played until age 39. When it comes to great tennis players, Borg quitting at that age was extremely rare and he later regretted it. His motivation was no longer being able to beat McEnroe. Koufax was told by doctors that he could lose the use of his arm if he continued pitching. Ryun was running for free and past his prime when he retired. In addition, he had competed in a professional track league and could no longer compete against amateurs. Going overseas to see combat wasn’t one the reasons you gave as to why Valby might quit distance running.
The opposite of what you suggest is closer to the truth. Most athletes continue to compete well past their prime and guys in the major team sports will compete until they’re pushed out the door.
So, this whole discussion is about whether Valby will make a US team again, or is she finished. My poorly worded opinion was that possibly Valby's circumstances and priorities have changed.
I gave Jim Ryun as an example of someone with talent walking away from the sport. It is true that he made appearances after his "retirement" at track meets, but it was clear that his heart and mind was not in the game for these paid appearances. I know because I personally attended a meet where he "raced" a 4:06 mile in 1973. He probably wasn't even in shape.
I was partially correct about Michael Jordan. He did in fact retire at 30, but came out of retirement 2 years later.
You might be right about Koufax, but obviously, his circumstances changed.
I mentioned Pat Tillman, not as a comparison, but as an example of changing priorities and walking away from a lucrative sports contract.
I am not comparing working in a law firm with being an Olympic athlete, but as an example of freeing oneself from golden handcuffs. Sometimes, fortune and accolades are not worth the sacrifice. Of course, to each their own. What good is fame and fortune if you are miserable? Including winning Olympic gold?
You’re comparing working in a law firm to being an Olympic athlete? I’ve heard of attorneys working 80 hour a week to meet minimum billable hour requirements in the hope of becoming a partner some day. For any competitive runner, having Valby’s talent would be living the dream. Assuming you were a competitive distance runner, and had her talent, you would quit be because of life happening?
Jordan played until age 39. When it comes to great tennis players, Borg quitting at that age was extremely rare and he later regretted it. His motivation was no longer being able to beat McEnroe. Koufax was told by doctors that he could lose the use of his arm if he continued pitching. Ryun was running for free and past his prime when he retired. In addition, he had competed in a professional track league and could no longer compete against amateurs. Going overseas to see combat wasn’t one the reasons you gave as to why Valby might quit distance running.
The opposite of what you suggest is closer to the truth. Most athletes continue to compete well past their prime and guys in the major team sports will compete until they’re pushed out the door.
So, this whole discussion is about whether Valby will make a US team again, or is she finished. My poorly worded opinion was that possibly Valby's circumstances and priorities have changed.
I gave Jim Ryun as an example of someone with talent walking away from the sport. It is true that he made appearances after his "retirement" at track meets, but it was clear that his heart and mind was not in the game for these paid appearances. I know because I personally attended a meet where he "raced" a 4:06 mile in 1973. He probably wasn't even in shape.
I was partially correct about Michael Jordan. He did in fact retire at 30, but came out of retirement 2 years later.
You might be right about Koufax, but obviously, his circumstances changed.
I mentioned Pat Tillman, not as a comparison, but as an example of changing priorities and walking away from a lucrative sports contract.
I am not comparing working in a law firm with being an Olympic athlete, but as an example of freeing oneself from golden handcuffs. Sometimes, fortune and accolades are not worth the sacrifice. Of course, to each their own. What good is fame and fortune if you are miserable? Including winning Olympic gold?
I guess the difference between us is you think being an elite runner is like wearing golden handcuffs. If I had had her talent, I would enjoyed every minute.
Financially, If Valby goes from good looking, star runner, to just good looking, her NIL income will decrease dramatically.
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