The fact is not that covid originated from the Wuhan lab. The fact is that the FBI, CIA, and DOE all said it's the most likely origin. I said this in my op and never said the lab leak origin is fact. Can you even read?
I can read. Can you?
Again, "lab leak orgin" is not just one theory, but a collection of multiple theories -- some of which include conspiracies. It's not clear from your post, and the "one minute of looking into this stuff up" which of the lab leak theories they assessed "most likely", and their factual basis for that assessment. Yet you accused your friend of being ignorant.
The FBI and CIA are nothing more than a bunch of conspiracy theorists? Okay. Good luck in life.
Again, "lab leak orgin" is not just one theory, but a collection of multiple theories -- some of which include conspiracies. It's not clear from your post, and the "one minute of looking into this stuff up" which of the lab leak theories they assessed "most likely", and their factual basis for that assessment. Yet you accused your friend of being ignorant.
The FBI and CIA are nothing more than a bunch of conspiracy theorists? Okay. Good luck in life.
I didn't say that, but they also didn't clarify. The government is full of conspiracy mongers.
Once you take the conspiracies away, and the politics away, the leading theories are still lab leaks or zoonitic, with too few facts to have confidence in any conclusion.
Andrew Sullivan: "The core paper that killed off any idea that this was a lab leak in China, the Proximal Origins paper, which was produced with Fauci and Collins, the NIH and NIAID helping it along, was a lie.pic.twitter.com/iPggsMMmzI
I don't even remember how it came up, but she said something about it and then called me a conspiracy theorist for believing Covid 19 came from the Wuhan Lab. I said it wasn't something "I believed" per se, but that the FBI, CIA, and US Department of Energy all did their own independent investigations into this and all concluded it was the most likely origin of the virus outbreak, though results were less than definitive. She got mad and more or less dismissed it as meaningless and said something indicating she didn't care what any of those reports said.
This whole thing really caught me off guard. I didn't realize people didn't know this? How are people this ignorant in 2025 when it takes less than a minute to look into stuff like this?
Also, maybe a different thread entirely, but has anyone else noticed that liberal women seem to not base any of their thinking on actual facts at all? I know this will probably anger some people, but I've historically been a left leaning moderate, and this is something I've been noticing more and more in recent years, that liberal women in particular seem to be both almost unbelievably ignorant of facts as well as totally impervious to them when deciding what to think. It's been really odd.
Have you seen the sidewalk interviews on you tube? Most are HS and college graduates. Some could not tell the interviewer how many hours in one day. Some had no clue who Ben Franklin was, or Abe Lincoln.
My question is, how did these people graduate middle school, not to mention high school?
the various did not, "most likely", come from a lab. it, in fact, came from a lab. it is 100% a human engineered virus. it did not exist in nature. my wife is a state lab manager and explained this to me, day 1. the public was lied to and deceived, to put it mildly.
the various did not, "most likely", come from a lab. it, in fact, came from a lab. it is 100% a human engineered virus. it did not exist in nature. my wife is a state lab manager and explained this to me, day 1. the public was lied to and deceived, to put it mildly.
At least you didn't hear from a guy in a bar but there isn't a lot of difference. Your wife's opinions aren't reported in the NY Times or the Guardian as confounding every other scientific opinion that says otherwise. I wonder why?
You need to face one simple fact most women between the ages of 17 and 27 are not very smart. They're smart about all the wrong things. They want baby daddies, and men that are equally as dumb as they are. You need to stay away from women that age. They need more time to mature and so do you
the various did not, "most likely", come from a lab. it, in fact, came from a lab. it is 100% a human engineered virus. it did not exist in nature. my wife is a state lab manager and explained this to me, day 1. the public was lied to and deceived, to put it mildly.
You need to face one simple fact most women between the ages of 17 and 27 are not very smart. They're smart about all the wrong things. They want baby daddies, and men that are equally as dumb as they are. You need to stay away from women that age. They need more time to mature and so do you
Coming from a male who is neither smart nor mature but certainly a misogynist.
You need to face one simple fact most women between the ages of 17 and 27 are not very smart. They're smart about all the wrong things. They want baby daddies, and men that are equally as dumb as they are. You need to stay away from women that age. They need more time to mature and so do you
I am a male who is neither smart nor mature but certainly a misogynist.
I don't even remember how it came up, but she said something about it and then called me a conspiracy theorist for believing Covid 19 came from the Wuhan Lab. I said it wasn't something "I believed" per se, but that the FBI, CIA, and US Department of Energy all did their own independent investigations into this and all concluded it was the most likely origin of the virus outbreak, though results were less than definitive. She got mad and more or less dismissed it as meaningless and said something indicating she didn't care what any of those reports said.
This whole thing really caught me off guard. I didn't realize people didn't know this? How are people this ignorant in 2025 when it takes less than a minute to look into stuff like this?
Also, maybe a different thread entirely, but has anyone else noticed that liberal women seem to not base any of their thinking on actual facts at all? I know this will probably anger some people, but I've historically been a left leaning moderate, and this is something I've been noticing more and more in recent years, that liberal women in particular seem to be both almost unbelievably ignorant of facts as well as totally impervious to them when deciding what to think. It's been really odd.
You may want to point out to her that people go to prison almost every day for committing conspiracy. In the US there is a statute called "RICO" which stands for "Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations".
Here is a page about the seriousness of committing conspiracy in the US. (In Burma, if two or more people are even caught having a conversation in public, they can be executed on the sport or immediately imprisoned for the act of Conspiracy)
Federal prosecutors may file conspiracy charges to get one defendant to turn on another. Learn about these charges and the consequences of a conviction here.
(In Burma, if two or more people are caught having a conversation in public, they can be executed on the spot or immediately imprisoned for the act of Conspiracy)
