You don't seem to understand the difference between how I actually reacted and what I said and the voices in your head
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Newname wrote:
You don't seem to understand the difference between how I actually reacted and what I said and the voices in your head
“Had to have been” the Mossad was a comment made by you. Come on now don’t be silly.
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Moge gen wrote:
Newname wrote:
You don't seem to understand the difference between how I actually reacted and what I said and the voices in your head
“Had to have been” the Mossad was a comment made by you. Come on now don’t be silly.
Not so. I noted that of all the suspect, the Mob, the Cubans, the intelligence agencies, and Israel, only the intell agencies and Israel and their Lobby have the power to cover up for over 60 years. And Israel has a far greater need to keep it covered up if they were involved than does the CIA (which has survived several other huge crimes they have committed ).
I did not "blame the Jews" as has been claimed. More simplistic -- and dishonest -- propaganda from the Occupied Mind.
Who do you think did it and why? The lone gunman? The Cubans? The Mob? Walk is thru your though process.
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Trump\'s will is law wrote:
Don’t care if it’s “proper” or not. If Trump wants it then it should be done. It’s that simple
The upvote/downvote action on apparent sarcasm tends to be a sticky wicket.
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Science would dictate in any case that you conduct extensive research through study after study to support various hypotheses, not to place all the weight on a single (unscientific) study.
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Shoko Asahara wrote:
Newname wrote:
You don't think there are lots of studies already done given the way autism has been rising for 4 decades to build upon. You think it's just starting from scratch today?
If 4 decades worth of studies haven’t answered the question, then why they f*ck would RFK be able to answer it in 4 months (unless he’s just going to make up an answer that supports whatever nonsense he already believes)?
thanks for answering for me. Exactly!
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PCRF-Guy wrote:
fisky wrote:
I'm curious to see what data will be presented in September. The gold standard of the scientific method for drug testing is the double-blind clinical trial. Such a trial can't ethically be done with childhood vaccines since it would require a control group. It would also require an observation period long enough to allow autism to develop. That would mean a clinical trial of at least two years.
There are two many variables to get a definitive answer without a double-blind clinical trial. The major variables include environmental (plastics, household cleaners, etc), food additives (chemicals added to food, increased fructose, increased PUFAs, etc), and the change in diagnosing autism itself.
Also, there is the theory that that problem is not the MMR vaccine (or other specific vaccination on the schedule) that is causing autism, but it's the shock to the immune system of giving 20+ vaccines to children in a relatively short period of time. Some of theses vaccines are given enmasse. A double-blind clinical trial would have to be done on the vaccine schedule itself. We somewhat have observational data on this because other nations don't do as many vaccinations nor do they do them enmasse, but we still have the confounding diet, environmental, and food additive differences between the US and these other countries.
What is clear or at least clear to me is that something is happening before age five and even before age 3 that is resulting in more autism diagnoses.
As always, you bring up some good points. Here are some of my responses (even though I don't have all the answers):
- Double blind clinical trials can't be done because it's unethical (also impractical; you'd have to wait 15 years to collect data on your outcomes). But when comparing rates of ASD in countries with low vaccination rates to those with higher rates, there was no difference. When comparing rates of autism in populations exempt from vaccination for religious purposes and those who follow the regular schedule, there was no difference. There are about 24 multinational studies Paul Offit included in his book "Bad Advice" on this topic (and his use of them in his critique of the anti-vax movement) if you want a more detailed reference.
- The second statement in bold about environmental causes is where I would put my money. But expanding the diagnostic criteria is by far the most obvious (I don't think it can account for everything though).
- When vaccines were first made commercially available, the only one children took was the original oral polio vaccine. If you combined all the immunogenic agents in the 20 vaccines on the pediatric schedule today, there would be less antigens IN THE COMBINATION than that single vaccine had. Obviously, microbiology and manufacturing processes are better today. Either way, the immune system of a newborn reacts to about 200 billion antigens when passing through the birth canal, and another several hundred antigens every day for the rest of their life. 20 vaccines won't overwhelm it.
- Features of neurodivergence can't be obvious before 3 years old. The child would have to miss milestones for people to notice something was different about them. That doesn't necessarily mean that they weren't autistic before then. Again, a counterfactual that's impossible to prove or disprove, just an observation.
Good response. Thanks.
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Newname wrote:
Where are all the studies "proving" other things are not responsible for autism? Pollution, foods, etc?
The establishment seems very invested in saying its not vaccines.
Which means it probably is.
This is the same esablishment that denied Covid could have come from a lab, forced untested emergency use experiments "vaccines" on Americans, shut down schools, gyms, beaches while allowing Amazon, Walmart, liquor stores to remain open, made up a 6 foot "social" distancing rule, claimed $5 face masks would keep us safe, prevented families from visiting the elderly in nursing homes and hospitals.
They are corrupt and not looking out for us
Air pollution has some pretty good studies linking it to the rise in autism risk:
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Newname wrote:
PCRF-Guy wrote:
Here's some light reading for you:
Where are all the studies "proving" other things are not responsible for autism? Pollution, foods, etc?
The establishment seems very invested in saying its not vaccines.
Which means it probably is.
This is the same esablishment that denied Covid could have come from a lab, forced untested emergency use experiments "vaccines" on Americans, shut down schools, gyms, beaches while allowing Amazon, Walmart, liquor stores to remain open, made up a 6 foot "social" distancing rule, claimed $5 face masks would keep us safe, prevented families from visiting the elderly in nursing homes and hospitals.
They are corrupt and not looking out for us
Here's food and alcohol:
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Newname wrote:
Where are all the studies "proving" other things are not responsible for autism? Pollution, foods, etc?
The establishment seems very invested in saying its not vaccines.
Which means it probably is.
This is the same esablishment that denied Covid could have come from a lab, forced untested emergency use experiments "vaccines" on Americans, shut down schools, gyms, beaches while allowing Amazon, Walmart, liquor stores to remain open, made up a 6 foot "social" distancing rule, claimed $5 face masks would keep us safe, prevented families from visiting the elderly in nursing homes and hospitals.
They are corrupt and not looking out for us
There's a strong association between parental age at first conception and autism. Meaning if you have kids later in life, they have a higher risk of being autistic. Parental age has been rising for decades; people are waiting until their late thirties and beyond, and it applies to both parents. (Men who have a child in the 50s and 60s...)
- .- Mutations in the fathers sperm are associated with up to 30% of new autism cases:
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Newname wrote:
Where are all the studies "proving" other things are not responsible for autism? Pollution, foods, etc?
The establishment seems very invested in saying its not vaccines.
Which means it probably is.
This is the same esablishment that denied Covid could have come from a lab, forced untested emergency use experiments "vaccines" on Americans, shut down schools, gyms, beaches while allowing Amazon, Walmart, liquor stores to remain open, made up a 6 foot "social" distancing rule, claimed $5 face masks would keep us safe, prevented families from visiting the elderly in nursing homes and hospitals.
They are corrupt and not looking out for us
The reason you don't know about any of the research done on autism is because you don't look... it's not "the establishment that is invested in saying it isn't vaccines", it's the people who are determined that vaccines are the cause of everything they don't like, and don't bother looking at anything other possibilities.
That includes RFK Jr. No scientist says, "I will have an answer by September". People doing research put together a hypothesis, develop and experiment to test it, and if the data proves or disproves it, they recalibrate and build on the results. Politicians decide the answer in advance, and then keep repeating the same "investigation" until they find what confirms their pre-existing beliefs. HHS doesn't have a hidden vault of data; when a study is done, it's listed on the website of the entity that issue the funding for it, and the results are submitted to publishers, not the grant issuer or the gov't.
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Some “scientists” are about to get very rich to conclude that there is no link. Later they will get plumb Pharma jobs earning massive salaries for little work. If you’re one of the lucky one, congrats!
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Aloadofsteamingcrap wrote:
Shoko Asahara wrote:
If 4 decades worth of studies haven’t answered the question, then why they f*ck would RFK be able to answer it in 4 months (unless he’s just going to make up an answer that supports whatever nonsense he already believes)?
thanks for answering for me. Exactly!
How can they not know what causes this increase in autism? You know, trust the experts and all
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I’m not wading through the entire thread to see if this has been mentioned or not but the simple explanation for the “epidemic” is that it is diagnosed more. The same percentages more than likely existed in the past but were not diagnosed. This is all about nothing.
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Newname wrote:
Aloadofsteamingcrap wrote:
thanks for answering for me. Exactly!
How can they not know what causes this increase in autism? You know, trust the experts and all
How can you not realize you're mentally ill? You know, since it's you and all
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PCRF-Guy wrote:
Newname wrote:
Where are all the studies "proving" other things are not responsible for autism? Pollution, foods, etc?
The establishment seems very invested in saying its not vaccines.
Which means it probably is.
This is the same esablishment that denied Covid could have come from a lab, forced untested emergency use experiments "vaccines" on Americans, shut down schools, gyms, beaches while allowing Amazon, Walmart, liquor stores to remain open, made up a 6 foot "social" distancing rule, claimed $5 face masks would keep us safe, prevented families from visiting the elderly in nursing homes and hospitals.
They are corrupt and not looking out for us
There's a strong association between parental age at first conception and autism. Meaning if you have kids later in life, they have a higher risk of being autistic. Parental age has been rising for decades; people are waiting until their late thirties and beyond, and it applies to both parents. (Men who have a child in the 50s and 60s...)
-- .-- Mutations in the fathers sperm are associated with up to 30% of new autism cases:
That's your reason for going from 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 31?
Older 1st time parents.
I know personally several people who have had kids with full blown autism.
Oddly, not one of them was an older 1st time parent. Not one.
You guys are in denial if you ignore the role of vaccinations on this
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jfc get help homey wrote:
Newname wrote:
How can they not know what causes this increase in autism? You know, trust the experts and all
How can you not realize you're mentally ill? You know, since it's you and all
Another fact filled, logically argued response from the sucker class
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Simple as wrote:
I’m not wading through the entire thread to see if this has been mentioned or not but the simple explanation for the “epidemic” is that it is diagnosed more. The same percentages more than likely existed in the past but were not diagnosed. This is all about nothing.
Nope. Full blown, non verbal autism rates have also exploded.
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Newname wrote:
Aloadofsteamingcrap wrote:
thanks for answering for me. Exactly!
How can they not know what causes this increase in autism? You know, trust the experts and all
How can you not know how *they* don't know what causes this increase in autism? You know, trust random people on YouTube and all.
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