I don’t think we’ll see Wanyonyi in another Grand Slam. Assuming he has adidas’ road to records, Kip Keino, and Monaco/Paris/DL final on his docket. He will get paid in this DLs and Pre never has a M800, so no reason to return to the US.
Could you imagine the Olympic 800, 1500, and 5000 champs all in the same race?
Nice '85 1500 was close with the 800 and the 50000 Champ as well as the1500 silver medalist.
Cole Hocker "I think I'm the best racer in the world".
LRC-Hocker has the best kick in the world
Hocker actually closed faster than everyone, including Wanyoni, in the final 200, so the best kick opinion isn't unfounded. The "best racer" opinion clearly wasn't on display yesterday.
Hocker actually closed faster than everyone, including Wanyoni, in the final 200, so the best kick opinion isn't unfounded. The "best racer" opinion clearly wasn't on display yesterday.
Yeah I do think Wanyonyi had another gear. He started celebrating with 35 meters to go. Granted he kept his pace but the last 10 meters he eased up and the others gained a bit. Nothing crazy, probably a tenth or two tenths if victory was in any doubt.
Im also not trusting the splits if they say Gourley had a faster last lap than Wanyonyi. They’re a stride apart at the bell and Wanyonyi beat him by 3 strides at the finish,
Wanyonyi is going to be a problem if he decides to do the 800/1500 double at the next championships. What's scary is not that he won but HOW he won. Bro just took down the best 1500m runners in the world outside of Jakob. He did it smiling and pumping his arms....all while running a 25.8 sec last 200m.
He could have gone 24.XX that last 200m if he had to. I don't believe any active 1500m runner in the world has a 24 last 200m in their legs in a 3:36 or faster race. All these guys are trained on threshold but Wanyoni is pure guts and awesomeness with a healthy dose of raw talent.
We could have had that today if Jakob wasn’t so scared.
Jakob isn't scared, he just made the best business decision for him. People are ragging on the GST competitions for taking the money, but that's exactly what Jakob does. He's one of the few athletes that gets GST level money from DL meets. Plus, he gets to set the terms of all those meets so that the 1500 is always set up exactly as he wants it. It's part of what is so frustrating to others in the field. At GST, he would be treated just like everyone else rather than like the little prince of the track, and he's not used to that so he will stick with the DL.
Whether he is scared or not it wasn't a business decision.
Jacob had no choice but to stay in Norway. He is at the trial.
Jakob isn't scared, he just made the best business decision for him. People are ragging on the GST competitions for taking the money, but that's exactly what Jakob does. He's one of the few athletes that gets GST level money from DL meets. Plus, he gets to set the terms of all those meets so that the 1500 is always set up exactly as he wants it. It's part of what is so frustrating to others in the field. At GST, he would be treated just like everyone else rather than like the little prince of the track, and he's not used to that so he will stick with the DL.
Whether he is scared or not it wasn't a business decision.
Jacob had no choice but to stay in Norway. He is at the trial.
The trial is lasting week, he's a witness not a defendant so could have given evidence at any point. He swerved GST because he doesn't need it in the same that the others do and it's inconvenient to fly to the US for three meets when he has a whole bunch of meets within a three hour flight that will do whatever he wants and pay him more than GST offers.
Hocker actually closed faster than everyone, including Wanyoni, in the final 200, so the best kick opinion isn't unfounded. The "best racer" opinion clearly wasn't on display yesterday.
Yeah I do think Wanyonyi had another gear. He started celebrating with 35 meters to go. Granted he kept his pace but the last 10 meters he eased up and the others gained a bit. Nothing crazy, probably a tenth or two tenths if victory was in any doubt.
Im also not trusting the splits if they say Gourley had a faster last lap than Wanyonyi. They’re a stride apart at the bell and Wanyonyi beat him by 3 strides at the finish,
I don't know if there are official splits on the website, but according to the livestream they did show splits with 400m to go and they put Wanyonyi in 2nd when he was in 4th (perhaps 3rd can't tell for sure as him and Hocker were very close).
Gourley was in 5th with a lap to go and they put him in 6th. So if splits are based on this they are clearly wrong.
Watching the race back, Hocker is the only one of the 1500 guys that is a bit concerning. He should be sharp, he's raced well this year, and 3:35 is perfect for his skillset. He should be unbeatable in this sort of race. What happened on that last lap seemed like a throwback to the old Hocker. I don't know if that's just a lack of 1500 racing so he was caught out of if he has regressed to the mean following the high of Paris. Thankfully, GST will give us a chance to find out.
Nuguse looked really good to me, until the last 100. I think right now, he'd be the biggest threat to Jakob in a championship race (Wanyonyi aside). He's fit and race sharp.
Gourley running well shows you how much race sharpness matters. He's usually not in the same class as the very top 1500 guys, but he's raced well indoors up to two weeks ago and he was competitive here.
Kerr's performance reminded me of his race in Oslo in 2023. He could hand with the leaders but didn't have it in the final lap both back then and in Kingston. Even so, for a guy I've seen run 50 seconds for the last 400 in a 3:40 race, his close yesterday has to be disappointing. I think he'll get smoked in the 800 tonight, high possibility of finishing DFL. My hot take is actually that the bottom three in the 800 will be the 1500 Olympic podium: Kerr, Hocker, Nuguse.
Put Wanyonyi, Jakob, Kerr, Hocker, Nuguse in global 1500m in same race. It will be fun to see how Kerr, Nuguse, Hocker run because if they go out hard it will be helpful for Jakob and if they go on slow it will help Wanyonyi
One thing Jakob has no fear of is Africans. He's been racing them and beathing the best since he was 15. If he were in this race it would have been a 3:28. We saw what he did indoors with those two world records. He fears no one!
He’s never faced a supreme talent like Wanyonyi, African or otherwise. And he will do everything he can to keep it that way.
LOL at running 3:28 in hot/windy Jamaica. Get a clue.
Watching the race back, Hocker is the only one of the 1500 guys that is a bit concerning. He should be sharp, he's raced well this year, and 3:35 is perfect for his skillset. He should be unbeatable in this sort of race. What happened on that last lap seemed like a throwback to the old Hocker. I don't know if that's just a lack of 1500 racing so he was caught out of if he has regressed to the mean following the high of Paris. Thankfully, GST will give us a chance to find out.
Nuguse looked really good to me, until the last 100. I think right now, he'd be the biggest threat to Jakob in a championship race (Wanyonyi aside). He's fit and race sharp.
Gourley running well shows you how much race sharpness matters. He's usually not in the same class as the very top 1500 guys, but he's raced well indoors up to two weeks ago and he was competitive here.
Kerr's performance reminded me of his race in Oslo in 2023. He could hand with the leaders but didn't have it in the final lap both back then and in Kingston. Even so, for a guy I've seen run 50 seconds for the last 400 in a 3:40 race, his close yesterday has to be disappointing. I think he'll get smoked in the 800 tonight, high possibility of finishing DFL. My hot take is actually that the bottom three in the 800 will be the 1500 Olympic podium: Kerr, Hocker, Nuguse.
This is actually the norm for how Hocker looks in early outdoor. Baller double at NCAAs beaten at Oregon Preview. Last year Pre yes a stumble but not close to top 3. Pre in 2022 he was coming off a great indoor USAs double and then was only 3:49ish and got stuck boxed behind Tim. A couple months, things will be much different. It sounds like they’ve done barely any speed, and Hockers gear shift at 350 stunk for him.
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I looked up his wikipedia and noticed he was just another farm kid plucked out of obscurity. This kid is going to be an all time great, he's got the competitive advantage if wanting it more
Watching the race back, Hocker is the only one of the 1500 guys that is a bit concerning. He should be sharp, he's raced well this year, and 3:35 is perfect for his skillset. He should be unbeatable in this sort of race. What happened on that last lap seemed like a throwback to the old Hocker. I don't know if that's just a lack of 1500 racing so he was caught out of if he has regressed to the mean following the high of Paris. Thankfully, GST will give us a chance to find out.
Nuguse looked really good to me, until the last 100. I think right now, he'd be the biggest threat to Jakob in a championship race (Wanyonyi aside). He's fit and race sharp.
Gourley running well shows you how much race sharpness matters. He's usually not in the same class as the very top 1500 guys, but he's raced well indoors up to two weeks ago and he was competitive here.
Kerr's performance reminded me of his race in Oslo in 2023. He could hand with the leaders but didn't have it in the final lap both back then and in Kingston. Even so, for a guy I've seen run 50 seconds for the last 400 in a 3:40 race, his close yesterday has to be disappointing. I think he'll get smoked in the 800 tonight, high possibility of finishing DFL. My hot take is actually that the bottom three in the 800 will be the 1500 Olympic podium: Kerr, Hocker, Nuguse.
The 1500m runners finishing last against a bunch of 1:41 guys is not a hot take. The 800m guys, save Wanyonyi, all finished in the bottom 3.
Watching the race back, Hocker is the only one of the 1500 guys that is a bit concerning. He should be sharp, he's raced well this year, and 3:35 is perfect for his skillset. He should be unbeatable in this sort of race. What happened on that last lap seemed like a throwback to the old Hocker. I don't know if that's just a lack of 1500 racing so he was caught out of if he has regressed to the mean following the high of Paris. Thankfully, GST will give us a chance to find out.
Nuguse looked really good to me, until the last 100. I think right now, he'd be the biggest threat to Jakob in a championship race (Wanyonyi aside). He's fit and race sharp.
Gourley running well shows you how much race sharpness matters. He's usually not in the same class as the very top 1500 guys, but he's raced well indoors up to two weeks ago and he was competitive here.
Kerr's performance reminded me of his race in Oslo in 2023. He could hand with the leaders but didn't have it in the final lap both back then and in Kingston. Even so, for a guy I've seen run 50 seconds for the last 400 in a 3:40 race, his close yesterday has to be disappointing. I think he'll get smoked in the 800 tonight, high possibility of finishing DFL. My hot take is actually that the bottom three in the 800 will be the 1500 Olympic podium: Kerr, Hocker, Nuguse.
This is actually the norm for how Hocker looks in early outdoor. Baller double at NCAAs beaten at Oregon Preview. Last year Pre yes a stumble but not close to top 3. Pre in 2022 he was coming off a great indoor USAs double and then was only 3:49ish and got stuck boxed behind Tim. A couple months, things will be much different. It sounds like they’ve done barely any speed, and Hockers gear shift at 350 stunk for him.
Yeah I am not worried about Hocker at all. Worlds are months away. I’d be more concerned if he looked sharp at this time a year. According to the SOVA YouTube channel, they’re in a heavy training block doing four workouts in six days some weeks. He’s loaded with training. No surprise that he’s a bit off in a race with a fast close. He’s got bigger goals.
Yeah I am not worried about Hocker at all. Worlds are months away. I’d be more concerned if he looked sharp at this time a year. According to the SOVA YouTube channel, they’re in a heavy training block doing four workouts in six days some weeks. He’s loaded with training. No surprise that he’s a bit off in a race with a fast close. He’s got bigger goals.
Interested to see how he does today. He might surprise a la Ejore who looked better in race 2 than 1.