Not quite as ridiculous as debating whether something unknown is considered an opinion or fact.
Given your reputation on this board vis a vis clean sport, I would not entrust any fact nor opinion in your faithful care because I find it very unfaithful
Don't place your trust in people and what they say.
Stop looking for someone to follow, as if you were a sheep.
I trust in Physics and also in the Lord. I serve one supreme master only. If you don’t trust anybody nor have faith in the Lord, as Khamis would say, you are doomed in perdition. It’s bad for you soul.
Given your reputation on this board vis a vis clean sport, I would not entrust any fact nor opinion in your faithful care because I find it very unfaithful
Don't place your trust in people and what they say.
Stop looking for someone to follow, as if you were a sheep.
Don’t underestimate the power of a hygienic electromagnetic environment to instill 1500m greatness in an athlete like El G!
Every aspect of life in this universe also has an aspect of hygiene.
wanna be great? then be the most hygienic of them all!
None of them doped. Rather it’s about the Meta Environment known as Electromagnetic. Everything has a Meta to it and that’s why Facebook and Google strives to be the Meta verse and AI Kings predicting human behavior with accurate precision. But they will fail because precisely the man made electromagnetic fields will obfuscate and disarray their predictions.
I trust in Physics and also in the Lord. I serve one supreme master only. If you don’t trust anybody nor have faith in the Lord, as Khamis would say, you are doomed in perdition. It’s bad for you soul.
I trust in Physics and also in the Lord. I serve one supreme master only. If you don’t trust anybody nor have faith in the Lord, as Khamis would say, you are doomed in perdition. It’s bad for you soul.
You trust Coe? I'm more than just sceptical towards him.
You know that the point you made about the base was completely ridiculous. For sure you would never admit to it.
Waiting for your next 1000 posts arguing with the mad man what another irrelevant person exactly wanted to say.
Not quite as ridiculous as debating whether something unknown is considered an opinion or fact.
A fact? Only when you know the truth. When you are not certain about something but you know it has a clear answer, it's stupid to call it your opinion.
You and Armstrong really deserve each other. The next 1000 totally meaningless posts about a totally irrelevant "Burfoot" will come. Good luck to both of you.
I once saw a post about Hocker doping and it was taken down indeed in 2 seconds. I’m now baying for this thread to be taken down right now and the Hocker one to be put back up. This is ludicrous, EL G was a clean beast. The most model looking and acting example for the youths and the softest giant you could ever kiss or touch!
El G is highly suspicious (if you go to the search feature, there have been dozens of threads & hundreds of comments on this over the last several years). You have to understand the doping culture at Morocco - they are a PED-powered nation: numerous doping positives, 10 ABP infraction bans (2nd only to Russia), doping coaches, etc. You should embark on some research with Moroccan doping.
El G ran his 1500, mile & 2000m WRs before the EPO test was implemented (2001). And not long after that Boulami became the first Moroccan to test positive for EPO when he set the WR in the steeplechase in 2002! Lol.
And take a look at the top 6 fastest Moroccan 1500 all-time guys (though Ramzi "officially" ran for Bahrain, he trained under Boulami in Morocco for several months out of the year and probably worked with Moroccan doping coaches/doctors for his programs.
That's 50% out of their top 6 who got caught doping! Even their fastest all-time female 1500 runner, Mariem Alaoui Selsouli (3:56.15) was busted twice for doping; EPO IC at the 09 WC & Furosemide at the London Olympics! Lol.
Furthermore, Kaouch was El G's training partner & pace setter.
When a man cannot take a dump, all he can do is let his belly scream. I see no evidence of the return of Sir Roger Banister. Your fake golden child Jacob is the result of artificial environment, he cannot live with Djamel Sedjati in 2025. Aouita was the first to show you lands of the north are better to ski in snow than to compete with African natural talent.
I once saw a post about Hocker doping and it was taken down indeed in 2 seconds. I’m now baying for this thread to be taken down right now and the Hocker one to be put back up. This is ludicrous, EL G was a clean beast. The most model looking and acting example for the youths and the softest giant you could ever kiss or touch!
El G is highly suspicious (if you go to the search feature, there have been dozens of threads & hundreds of comments on this over the last several years). You have to understand the doping culture at Morocco - they are a PED-powered nation: numerous doping positives, 10 ABP infraction bans (2nd only to Russia), doping coaches, etc. You should embark on some research with Moroccan doping.
El G ran his 1500, mile & 2000m WRs before the EPO test was implemented (2001). And not long after that Boulami became the first Moroccan to test positive for EPO when he set the WR in the steeplechase in 2002! Lol.
And take a look at the top 6 fastest Moroccan 1500 all-time guys (though Ramzi "officially" ran for Bahrain, he trained under Boulami in Morocco for several months out of the year and probably worked with Moroccan doping coaches/doctors for his programs.
That's 50% out of their top 6 who got caught doping! Even their fastest all-time female 1500 runner, Mariem Alaoui Selsouli (3:56.15) was busted twice for doping; EPO IC at the 09 WC & Furosemide at the London Olympics! Lol.
Furthermore, Kaouch was El G's training partner & pace setter.
You might also want to read this article:
Though the WR time was flushed due to the IC doping positive, the time still stands as the fastest to date:
Annual WADA reports; reporting on IAAF leaked blood data; a few studies on IAAF estimated blood doping prevalence; suspicion of women's performances from as far back as the '70s; state research on doping as far back as the '70s.
Well, on the other hand, the current AIU list of ineligible persons has Kenya on top, followed by India, with Russia being a distant third.
So following your lead, one has to conclude that "No nation took more drugs than Kenya" in recent years.
Annual WADA reports; reporting on IAAF leaked blood data; a few studies on IAAF estimated blood doping prevalence; suspicion of women's performances from as far back as the '70s; state research on doping as far back as the '70s.
Well, on the other hand, the current AIU list of ineligible persons has Kenya on top, followed by India, with Russia being a distant third.
So following your lead, one has to conclude that "No nation took more drugs than Kenya" in recent years.
Maybe in "recent years", if the AIU list is comprehensive.
Looking at your countries in recent years with respect to men's 1500m, we see a similar pattern of relatively poor performance: Notably Kenyan performance has declined in "recent years", while we have seen an increase from non-African athletes from Norway, the UK and the USA; the Indian 1500m record is 3:35.24.
What do these trends for these nations taking the most drugs tell us about "EPO / other drugs" for "El G"? It's hard for me to seen any positive correlation.
Remind me why we believe a PED existed that could make El G run 1500m faster doped than clean?
Maybe in "recent years", if the AIU list is comprehensive.
Looking at your countries in recent years with respect to men's 1500m, we see a similar pattern of relatively poor performance: Notably Kenyan performance has declined in "recent years", while we have seen an increase from non-African athletes from Norway, the UK and the USA; the Indian 1500m record is 3:35.24.
What do these trends for these nations taking the most drugs tell us about "EPO / other drugs" for "El G"? It's hard for me to seen any positive correlation.
Remind me why we believe a PED existed that could make El G run 1500m faster doped than clean?
Jesus, why do the mods still tolerate you? It's not as if you have ANYTHING valuable to contribute.
So Kenyan Olympic and world 1500m champions get banned, one of them being the teammate of the fastest Kenyan of recent years, whose performance then declines, and according to you, the fact that Kenyan 1500m performances have declined is proof that EPO doesn't freaking work?
Jesus, why do the mods still tolerate you? It's not as if you have ANYTHING valuable to contribute.
So Kenyan Olympic and world 1500m champions get banned, one of them being the teammate of the fastest Kenyan of recent years, whose performance then declines, and according to you, the fact that Kenyan 1500m performances have declined is proof that EPO doesn't freaking work?
God help us.
I suppose the mods largely tolerate me because I "have read and abide by (the) Terms and Conditions". There is a very low moderation requirement to contribute anything valuable (as evidenced by most posters). But I can imagine no contribution less valuable than reflexively echoing suspicion for every top performer I don't like.
The mathematician in me is always looking for a strong, positive correlation between "EPO / other drugs" and higher elite performance. If we created a Venn diagram with one circle of dopers, and another circle of high performers, it is possible to find a tiny intersection which includes "Kenyan Olympic and world 1500m champions". This is enough to meet the low/faux bar of "fallacy of proof by example", but not quite enough to suggest a strong and positive correlation exists between doping and high men's 1500m performance, like El G's.
In "recent years" the better performances are coming out of Norway, UK, and USA. If we think doping is the only path, we have to suspect all athletes who perform, African or not, on the basis of their individual performance, regardless of the doping status of their slower compatriots.
El G is highly suspicious (if you go to the search feature, there have been dozens of threads & hundreds of comments on this over the last several years). You have to understand the doping culture at Morocco - they are a PED-powered nation: numerous doping positives, 10 ABP infraction bans (2nd only to Russia), doping coaches, etc. You should embark on some research with Moroccan doping.
El G ran his 1500, mile & 2000m WRs before the EPO test was implemented (2001). And not long after that Boulami became the first Moroccan to test positive for EPO when he set the WR in the steeplechase in 2002! Lol.
And take a look at the top 6 fastest Moroccan 1500 all-time guys (though Ramzi "officially" ran for Bahrain, he trained under Boulami in Morocco for several months out of the year and probably worked with Moroccan doping coaches/doctors for his programs.
That's 50% out of their top 6 who got caught doping! Even their fastest all-time female 1500 runner, Mariem Alaoui Selsouli (3:56.15) was busted twice for doping; EPO IC at the 09 WC & Furosemide at the London Olympics! Lol.
Furthermore, Kaouch was El G's training partner & pace setter.
You might also want to read this article:
Though the WR time was flushed due to the IC doping positive, the time still stands as the fastest to date:
In my physics view of space and time, EL G is still beyond reproof despite all your contrary findings.
Alright, what evidence do you have that suggests he was clean? (other then never testing positive).
you might as well ask the doping rekbot what evidence he has that suggest Kenyans are clean athletes.
im base my findings on El Gs space-time intervals as a whole from 1990-2004. I consider the doping space-time intervals, physiologic and training space-time intervals, genetic space-time intervals and finally the number one most important of all space and time AKA THE ELECTROMAGNETIC space-time intervals!
In considering the electromagnetic space-time intervals, I ask myself what evidence was there that El G was protected from man-made electromagnetic fields throughout his formative years of training and when he was professional and I’m satisfied with the answers I see.
It’s all about space and time as you can see! Once again congrats to my man Trump for winning the electrons, sorry, elections! Too much physics on my mind.
Jesus, why do the mods still tolerate you? It's not as if you have ANYTHING valuable to contribute.
So Kenyan Olympic and world 1500m champions get banned, one of them being the teammate of the fastest Kenyan of recent years, whose performance then declines, and according to you, the fact that Kenyan 1500m performances have declined is proof that EPO doesn't freaking work?
God help us.
I suppose the mods largely tolerate me because I "have read and abide by (the) Terms and Conditions". There is a very low moderation requirement to contribute anything valuable (as evidenced by most posters). But I can imagine no contribution less valuable than reflexively echoing suspicion for every top performer I don't like.
The mathematician in me is always looking for a strong, positive correlation between "EPO / other drugs" and higher elite performance. If we created a Venn diagram with one circle of dopers, and another circle of high performers, it is possible to find a tiny intersection which includes "Kenyan Olympic and world 1500m champions". This is enough to meet the low/faux bar of "fallacy of proof by example", but not quite enough to suggest a strong and positive correlation exists between doping and high men's 1500m performance, like El G's.
In "recent years" the better performances are coming out of Norway, UK, and USA. If we think doping is the only path, we have to suspect all athletes who perform, African or not, on the basis of their individual performance, regardless of the doping status of their slower compatriots.
A reflexive mechanism is not necessarily a less valuable one so you see! Don’t you remember the myriad lectures of Engineer Khamis also the RF King?
Depending on the skill sets of each and every individual, a reflexive mechanism in space and time can be born of great training, experience and practice rather than those of fear, hatred or bigotry. Stop being partial towards doping as Coevett and armstrongliv always warn us about you!
Maybe in "recent years", if the AIU list is comprehensive.
Looking at your countries in recent years with respect to men's 1500m, we see a similar pattern of relatively poor performance: Notably Kenyan performance has declined in "recent years", while we have seen an increase from non-African athletes from Norway, the UK and the USA; the Indian 1500m record is 3:35.24.
What do these trends for these nations taking the most drugs tell us about "EPO / other drugs" for "El G"? It's hard for me to seen any positive correlation.
Remind me why we believe a PED existed that could make El G run 1500m faster doped than clean?
Jesus, why do the mods still tolerate you? It's not as if you have ANYTHING valuable to contribute.
So Kenyan Olympic and world 1500m champions get banned, one of them being the teammate of the fastest Kenyan of recent years, whose performance then declines, and according to you, the fact that Kenyan 1500m performances have declined is proof that EPO doesn't freaking work?
God help us.
Coevett, there is a reason God send me to this forum at this moment in space and time in the absence of the great RF King Khamis. It’s so that rekrunner isn’t left to his own usual devices and means unchecked and unbalanced. I have already put him on the doping spot in the short space-time I have been on these forums while Khamis enjoys his early Christmas break.
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