12.6 was the limit. They now can go as high as 10+35=45.
Previously the most XC scholarships a school could have was 12.6. Under the SEC’s new limit the most would be 10. There’s probably no recent example of an SEC school giving 12.6 scholarships to XC but that’s irrelevant since the proposed settlement terms would forbid going below the current NCAA limit of 12.6. The SEC’s new track limit of 35 is unaffected.
17 distance athletes + 28 other athletes = 45 total athletes
12 distance athletes + 33 other athletes = 45 total athletes
This is something no one is talking about for track specific programs in the SEC
10 xc guys. How many of those kids will be there for indoor and outdoor track on the 35 man roster. 2 or 3 if you lucky....the rest......see you next fall
Maybe this is how we get some people to commit to the marathon early. On the cross country roster but not on the track roster seems like the ideal setup for a spring marathon.
How the heck does byu spread out 10 spots? They have guys (really dozens of guys) that are there for 8 to 12 years. They can only have one new scholarship per year?
Have already heard about commits being contacted and scholarship/roster spot already pulled back. P5 coaches will use this as an excuse to cut incoming kids as well as get rid of current underperforming runners. With foreigners, older “freshman”, and huge conferences, P5 will not have patience to wait for kids to develop and even 8:45, 4:04 athletes will need time.
I think schools that go all in distance and Midmajors who aren’t worried about a football program should be first stop for even the very best Americans.
As someone who is at this kind of mid major. We are sitting pretty
Yes. Letsrun posters think good runners are getting full rides. Your point valid. But it is even worse than that because BYU has some good atletes in other events so they are not putting 10 scholarships into distance.
Wasn't the whole point of the roster limits to keep things fair after they did away with scholarship limits? Now the SEC roster limit is less then the original scholarship cap! 10 compared to 12.2 full rides!
Also does this effectively kill off redshirting besides an injury?
The old 12.6 was for xc + track&field combined.
So it's 12.6 vs 10+35.
Of course these are limits not requirements. There can still be zero scholarships in either 12.6 or 10+35 in an unfunded program.
All would be walk ons and team would get poor results.
Wasn't the whole point of the roster limits to keep things fair after they did away with scholarship limits? Now the SEC roster limit is less then the original scholarship cap! 10 compared to 12.2 full rides!
Also does this effectively kill off redshirting besides an injury?
You're actually on to something— I had to check the settlement to confirm but this reduction (for XC only, not track) would be in violation of the settlement terms which read "Conferences each maintain the right to unilaterally reduce the number of sports Member Institutions within their respective conferences are required to offer, the number of sports sponsored by the conference, and/or the roster limits within their conference, subject to the limitations noted above that reductions in roster limits will not result in the loss of athletic scholarships for then-current student-athletes and that any change in roster limits shall not result in a reduction in the current number of athletic scholarships permissible under current NCAA Division I rules in any sport."
Currently there are 12.2 TRACK scholarships, not XC. There is no violation.
I won't be waiting for ESPN to do a 30 for 30 on how Title IX hurts male athletes in non-revenue sports, especially walk-ons. Not a politically correct enough topic. I'm sure they won't touch this with a 10 foot pole, either.
The worst part of this to me is that the guys who needed a chance to develop, to do what college sports is arguably about, will never get a chance now.
We're not missing out on potential world stage podiums without 11th men at SEC programs. Our best performers on the world stage came in as top 5 runners as freshmen. College sports is for the elite, though there will still be places of opportunity for those 11th men to "develop" outside the SEC.
You're actually on to something— I had to check the settlement to confirm but this reduction (for XC only, not track) would be in violation of the settlement terms which read "Conferences each maintain the right to unilaterally reduce the number of sports Member Institutions within their respective conferences are required to offer, the number of sports sponsored by the conference, and/or the roster limits within their conference, subject to the limitations noted above that reductions in roster limits will not result in the loss of athletic scholarships for then-current student-athletes and that any change in roster limits shall not result in a reduction in the current number of athletic scholarships permissible under current NCAA Division I rules in any sport."
Currently there are 12.2 TRACK scholarships, not XC. There is no violation.
Today you could have 12.6 scholarships going to men on an XC roster. With the new SEC limit a school would only be able to have 10 scholarships going to men on their XC roster. Hope that helps.
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