For me the most obvious red flag is how the time stacks up against the men in that race.
Is everyone forgetting biology? So Hb, testosterone, lung capacity, height, heart size etc of professional well trained males can be beaten by a clean female? I don't buy it.
Biology eh? So you don't understand running economy either?
So funny that the Kenyan doping apologists here say that any white guy like Jakob who runs as fast as Africans must be doped, but they've spent the last week claiming we're racist for being suspicious of a woman from a country with 400 doping busts running as fast as men.
Biology eh? So you don't understand running economy either?
So funny that the Kenyan doping apologists here say that any white guy like Jakob who runs as fast as Africans must be doped, but they've spent the last week claiming we're racist for being suspicious of a woman from a country with 400 doping busts running as fast as men.
Well, it was you who said for years that anyone under 3:29 would have to be doped.
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Biology eh? So you don't understand running economy either?
So funny that the Kenyan doping apologists here say that any white guy like Jakob who runs as fast as Africans must be doped, but they've spent the last week claiming we're racist for being suspicious of a woman from a country with 400 doping busts running as fast as men.
Your racism exists independently of allegations regarding Ruth. Your racism is something you carry with you. But you have been proven correct about a huge doping problem in Kenya. This doesn’t have anything to do with your racism.
So funny that the Kenyan doping apologists here say that any white guy like Jakob who runs as fast as Africans must be doped, but they've spent the last week claiming we're racist for being suspicious of a woman from a country with 400 doping busts running as fast as men.
Well, it was you who said for years that anyone under 3:29 would have to be doped.
And that anyone who sets any world record in this millenium - but not in the 19080s of course - must be a doper.
Jonathan's "four paths" are not mutually exclusive. For example both scenarios 2 and 3 can co-exist, that the run is legitimate, and that others will approach and even break it.
The main problem with the doping scenarios is the lack of any established significant correlation between doping and faster marathon performances.
You have a different understanding of "any established significant correlation" from anyone I have ever met.
So funny that the Kenyan doping apologists here say that any white guy like Jakob who runs as fast as Africans must be doped, but they've spent the last week claiming we're racist for being suspicious of a woman from a country with 400 doping busts running as fast as men.
Your racism exists independently of allegations regarding Ruth. Your racism is something you carry with you. But you have been proven correct about a huge doping problem in Kenya. This doesn’t have anything to do with your racism.
BS. The accusations about racism are based solely on his identifying the African doping problem.
Even if this athlete ultimately goes down for doping it's a win for Nike.
what does that even mean? like anybody cares or notices what brand of shoes some runner in this marathon is wearing? is it going to help slow their tanking stock?
Your racism exists independently of allegations regarding Ruth. Your racism is something you carry with you. But you have been proven correct about a huge doping problem in Kenya. This doesn’t have anything to do with your racism.
BS. The accusations about racism are based solely on his identifying the African doping problem.
Right. Mr Corvette here is indeed not biased regarding the cleanliness and drug use of European athletes.
Jonathan's "four paths" are not mutually exclusive. For example both scenarios 2 and 3 can co-exist, that the run is legitimate, and that others will approach and even break it.
The main problem with the doping scenarios is the lack of any established significant correlation between doping and faster marathon performances.
You have a different understanding of "any established significant correlation" from anyone I have ever met.
Have you met any mathemeticians? It's Basic Statistics.
Your racism exists independently of allegations regarding Ruth. Your racism is something you carry with you. But you have been proven correct about a huge doping problem in Kenya. This doesn’t have anything to do with your racism.
BS. The accusations about racism are based solely on his identifying the African doping problem.
I feel it is absolutely possible that the sub 2:10 is clean. The shoes and the pacing for sure were an insane advantage. Basically the women's record almost got the conditions of Kipchoge's 1:59:40 (drafting, shoes etc) plus I guess finally the women have roughly the same conditions and motivation to train in Kenya as the men.
What I still struggle to understand is that she went out at 93.3 percent of the 5k world record and at 95.5 % of the 10k world record, what would be like 13:28 and 27:25 for a man plus the half marathon split would be like a man going out in 58:something and still came home within 3 minutes of the half maratjon WR. You'd expect her to run at least 62ish, 28:30ish, 13:45ish. I do not talk the exact 3k and 1500 times that are needed for this (although we all know it... it is in the WR range).
If the 2:09:56 is legit we should see a relatively harsh drop in the 3k - HM times soon because even as pure strength based runner she at least has to be able to run sub 14 and I believe there are faster 5k runners.
If the 2:09:56 is legit we should see a relatively harsh drop in the 3k - HM times soon because even as pure strength based runner she at least has to be able to run sub 14 and I believe there are faster 5k runners.
Nope, that's not what super-shoes do.
Their function isn't to give you free speed, it's to give you free economy.
Now that said, some who have the strength can now use that extra spare economy to go faster but they by default do not make you faster, it's what you do with the easier effort that is the result.
So 4:57 is her upper limit right next to her lactate threshold, she cannot go faster without a blowup at extended distance.
She can now however with the alphaflys (and a serious draft) give her lactate threshold a bear hug and hold onto that desperately for 130 minutes when she could only have done it for say 100 minutes before.
That's how super-shoes work and what they do, they make efforts easier than before and what you can do with that "easier" is up to each runner and their form.
and there's never been anything like the v3 alphafly, they should not be race legal, for a runner who is trained to get the most economy out of them, they appear like doping
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Your racism exists independently of allegations regarding Ruth. Your racism is something you carry with you. But you have been proven correct about a huge doping problem in Kenya. This doesn’t have anything to do with your racism.
BS. The accusations about racism are based solely on his identifying the African doping problem.
I feel it is absolutely possible that the sub 2:10 is clean. The shoes and the pacing for sure were an insane advantage. Basically the women's record almost got the conditions of Kipchoge's 1:59:40 (drafting, shoes etc) plus I guess finally the women have roughly the same conditions and motivation to train in Kenya as the men.
What I still struggle to understand is that she went out at 93.3 percent of the 5k world record and at 95.5 % of the 10k world record, what would be like 13:28 and 27:25 for a man plus the half marathon split would be like a man going out in 58:something and still came home within 3 minutes of the half maratjon WR. You'd expect her to run at least 62ish, 28:30ish, 13:45ish. I do not talk the exact 3k and 1500 times that are needed for this (although we all know it... it is in the WR range).
If the 2:09:56 is legit we should see a relatively harsh drop in the 3k - HM times soon because even as pure strength based runner she at least has to be able to run sub 14 and I believe there are faster 5k runners.
What you "feel" is completely unconvincing. Throwing figures around means nothing.
The article does reveal she recently switched from the Vaporfly to Alphafly - could that explain the big jump?
What I find hard to make sense of is the fact that you delete every post that points out to you the amount of effort and resources you spent defending the burrito eating athlete even though she was officially banned. While casting aspersions on another athlete who has not been.
