let’s talk CBA..

CBA gets two weeks of no racing between NXR and NXN for the first time. hopefully that will be advantageous for them

Yes and no. CBA is LOADED but so in Herriman. Best team on that day will win.

The week off for CBA will help. Rest at this point in the season is big.

From most recent national speed rating:

CBA

196, 184, 184, 184 and 184

Herriman

192, 190, 186, 182 and 181

CBA #4 and #5 > Herriman #4 and #5. No?

#4 and 5 are always critical

i think cba is 196-187-186-185-184

Based on my experience studying the speed ratings, the speed ratings in the southwest are underrated by a few points and the speed ratings in the northeast are overrated by a few points. Well have to see when dec 7 rolls around to know for sure.

Both are stronger than 2023 Herriman

Wow. CBA’s 7th man beat Cherokee’s and Haddonfield Memorial’s first man

Yep. Meylan is great at what he does, BUT he has always underrated altitude states in general. Races at altitude should probably be 2-7 points higher than Meylan suggests when compared to low altitude races.

American Fork's Utah State race was as fast as Herriman's last year, and Herriman was 6 seconds faster than they were last year. At NXN, Herriman was almost 20 seconds ahead of CBA last year. CBA was 14 seconds faster at NJ MOC this year than they were last year. CBA should definitely be competing for a podium finish, but their MOC race doesn't really seem more impressive than the Utah teams, and there are other teams in the country running similarly well.

Joe barrett of CBA was sick with covid at nxn last year, they also had many runners fall/slip in the race so hard to compare nxn race times. Not sure what teams are “comparable” to cba other then herriman and niwot

Yeah I think Herriman>CBA>Niwot>everyone else. Realistically good days and bad days means any of these teams could win.

2-7 points is a wild range to use there. 2-3 is maybe feasible.

The bigger reality is CBA has not performed well at NXN recently. 2022 they clearly had severe illness issues. Last year, Barrett being sick hurt them quite a bit. I think on that day, Herriman ran exceptional, and CBA did not equal their races from earlier in the season, which is the case for MOST schools. Herriman absolutely deserved to win that day with how they raced, but that does not = CBA being overrated prior to NXN.

I think the argument really is that instead of CBA being speed rated too highly, is that their NXN races have just been quite poor compared to their exceptional seasons up to that point.

And for this year, CBA is quite better than the past 2 years, yet speed ratings have been a few points lower if using same scale that was used the past few years. So I would not say they have been overrated yet this year.

CBA's performance at MOC is far away more impressive than anything anyone outside of Herriman and Niwot have done.

These 3 teams have very much proved their excellent abilities this season, but ultimately it does not mean they will run their best races at NXN, it is even arguably unlikely that they will.

I am looking forward to NXR SW to see how AF comes into the mix as well, given they were close to herriman at state meet.

CBA is #1 in the country now
https://www.milesplit.com/rankings/flo50/1598/5896

CBA lowers Bowdoin 5 Man CR again? sub 16:00, wow

already a thread on that

CBA nonseniors at the NYC Circuit 2 mile

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Lilley, Sheppard, Malone, Schmitt Drop Hot Times In New York

Jim Lambert

Lilley, Sheppard, and Malone ran three of the fastest 800 times in NJ history, and Ryan Schmitt burned a huge 2-mile at the Armory on Saturday night.

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