Bryce Hoppel 1:41.67 AR

Fair but I’d assert if you did a poll of Letsrun, probably it would be something like this:

75% think Sedjati is doping

10% think Hoppel is doping

15% think Arop is doping

35% think Wanyonyi is doping.
Wanyonyi gets the collateral damage of the Kenyan busts & his coach’s complicated history. Hoppel gets a little US bias, Arop US-based and Western bias. Sedjati being North African, coming out of nowhere and now having his coach investigated would be a high % case.

The entire final were doped. 1:41 to 1:43.

They were so doped up, even the announcers were high at the end of the race.

Never talk again about NA ... keep to your home and mentality of America.

Runners from Kenya come out of nowhere every year. I would be more worried about Kenya and their mass fall in the 1500m.

None of them were running 1:41-43.

You are tiresome.

Is and in a year we were all complaining about how the 800 was down.

1:41.67 and 3:28.24 not even enough to podium in these games. Absolutely insane.

why does everyone keep saying this was an AR it wasn't

The runners weren't tired though. 1:40 coming up.

A ~1:43 runner at best but suddenly ran ~1:41 though still failing to medal.
Associated with usada.

Who are the losers that downvote every single post, no matter how gracious and kindly worded they are?

For example, post #3: "Respect. That was a great run."

That gets 2 downvotes? Some of the people who skulk around on this board need to grow up! My WORD!!

It might depend on how old they are. AR used to mean "American Record" (meaning United States of America). NR is absolutely a better title. But I almost always initially see AR as American Record and then have to translate it to Area Record.

Just some perspective.

AT least Quincy Wilson won GOLD for his 47'2 run. GO FIGURE. LOL

I see PB (peanut butter?) and have to remember it's the new acronym these days for PR.

It could be in a matter of weeks if the Algerian admits his guilt if not he could wait for years as the appeals go through the courts.

I don't know how performance bonuses occur with sponsors but Adam Nelson claimed when he was upgraded to gold not winning the gold at the conclusion of the shotput competition cost upwards of a million dollars and he was a shot putter...

A record that I thought would last for much longer

If someone is caught ahead of Hoppel, what happens to my draftkings bet I had for him medaling? I guess you still don't get paid, right?

I have no view on who is doping and who isn't... but its clear that shoes/track/Sodium Bicarbonate is making a big difference. Even Arop said he felt it to a large degree. That alone could easily be a second or more, shifting the times back to the 1:42/1:43 range.

They would probably refund it, or face some anger from customers. Don't know if they'd pay it out.

As for the performance jump, I think it's the bicarb honestly. The shoes have been around, and the effect on times didn't happen until this year. Fast tracks are around. Where you can speculate the bicarb part is guys being able to kick off of honest paces in an 800m like we hadn't seen before. Usually that last 200 will be about survival and now you see routine back-to-back sub 13s from 300 out off of 50-51 first laps. Wanyonyi's race was more of a throwback with him hanging on for a 13.0 last 100 from the front. Still, hanging on remarkably well, but we've seen frontrunners do that. But Arop, Hoppel, Attaoui, Tual et al are kicking in 1:41-1:42 flat races in a new way.