No study has said that it is healthy. The studies document that it is very common. Some of you seem to think it is not.
No study has said that it is healthy. The studies document that it is very common. Some of you seem to think it is not.
To big timer, who literally said Allie is the opposite of perseverance because it's apparently 'her fault' she suffered from an ED:
You literally know nothing. Glad to see the downvotes prove people aren't stupid enough to believe you
Itcanbedone wrote:
To all the high school runners, coaches and parents, who think starving is the only way to perform.
allie_ostrander “I keep crying after every race.
Initially, I thought it was because I was happy with my performance, but I realize it's much more than that.
I've been happy with performances before, but it's never felt like this. The moment I cross the finish line, I feel such shock and relief (to the point where I spontaneously burst into tears lol).
The reason for this is that I struggle to believe in myself. I used to gain so much confidence from what I saw in the mirror-was I lean, were my legs small enough, were my abs visible enough, etc-but since going through ED recovery, I don't know where to pull that confidence from. I look in the mirror, and I know that l'm not the smallest l've ever been. So no matter how my workouts have gone or where I think my fitness is, I have a hard time believing in myself.
That's why, when I cross the line, I cry. Because despite the doubt and the way my brain fought against me, I was able to perform. Because each time I overcome those doubts, I get one step closer to believing. Because, one race at a time, I prove to myself that my body wasn't the reason for my success—it was always me. Just me.
P.S. thanks to @theathletespecial for asking me why I keep crying and prompting me to actually think about this”
Pulling for Allie. Nice to see genuine, non-snarky respect for Allie O on here. I saw her vid--so proud of her!
Mnbb wrote:
I would really love it if she made the Olympic team.
She has the perfect coach for her right now. The guy is ultra positive and you can tell that it comes from the heart. That’s 75% of what AO needs to allow her talent to come out.
She thinks that she has 1% chance of making the team. After her performance at Payton Jordan (9:37), I think her chances are higher than that. It was her first steeple since 2021 and her goal was simply to qualify for the trials. Surely there is more there. Hopefully, she can find another fast steeple before the trials and get closer to the Olympic standard (9:23).
Another step in the right direction with her 9:32 this weekend. She is now surely a favourite to make the steeple final at the trials (ranked 10th). The third fastest American this year has only run 9:27, so she isn’t too far. She could make it in even if she does not run standard
How is she a favorite?
Things happen, athletes pull up with injuries or fall-down, get sick, etc.
Just get to the dance floor.
oh allie wrote:
How is she a favorite?
12 make the finals, she is ranked 10th. So. she is one the favourites to make the final
Um what? she absolutely needs the entry standard; she can't run enough high profile meets before Paris to qualify based on ranking. Current rankings cutoff for steeple is the Lithuanian girl at world #39.
Technically, you are right, but the 10th ranking is a bit deceiving because neither Gear nor Frerichs has yet run a steeple (they both will at Pre), plus Markezich solo cruised a fast 5k at ACCs, and clearly in better shape than her 2024 steeple time. Allie has a shot at making the final but I wouldn't say it's greater than 50%.
Last time there were 14 in the final. Has that changed?
UCI83 wrote:
Technically, you are right, but the 10th ranking is a bit deceiving because neither Gear nor Frerichs has yet run a steeple (they both will at Pre), plus Markezich solo cruised a fast 5k at ACCs, and clearly in better shape than her 2024 steeple time. Allie has a shot at making the final but I wouldn't say it's greater than 50%.
She was 8th at the 2021 Trials and had this year had: her best season opener; on a great trajectory chopping 5 seconds off in her second race; is healthier than ever/has had consistent training that she didn't have in 2021. She was also 4th at USAs in 2019. Yes, before a new crop of young women steeplechase runners. Still, I expect her to PR this year, and I expect her to be in the finals at USAs.
When is her next race? She says that she is in the best shape of her live. She could threaten her 9:26 PB in her next race
Times are dropping and there are some younger replacing the ones who are aging out. She will make the final and likely be around 8th again.
Ok, at World XC, she thought that her chance of making the team was 1%
Since then, both Coburn and Frerichs got injured.
She also had her fastest opener, followed by her best steeple in May (9:32). She ran a lot of that most recent steeple in lane 2 and her hurdling was terrible.
What are her chances now?
Wayment
Gear
Markezich
Jennings
Boreman
Howard…
Plus Val Constien, Gracie Hyde, Kaylee Mitchell, Logan Jolly, and Angelina Ellis, who have all run faster than Allie this year.
Mnbb wrote:
Ok, at World XC, she thought that her chance of making the team was 1%
Since then, both Coburn and Frerichs got injured.
She also had her fastest opener, followed by her best steeple in May (9:32). She ran a lot of that most recent steeple in lane 2 and her hurdling was terrible.
What are her chances now?
Wayment
Gear
Markezich
Jennings
Boreman
Howard…
The door has certainly opened quite wide for Allie to open it up and walk in.
Oh, and Lexy Halladay, who's been looking great.
Looking at the current performance lists, she's the 12th American by time with some big names yet to run a steeple (Gear hasn't opened, Markezich has only run a casual 9:36 in April).
Allie is doing awesome and it's great to see her succeed on her own terms, but women's steeple is a really deep event in American distance right now- no medal threats but tons of women the Olympic standard who are running low 9:20s.
you forgot a few wrote:
Oh, and Lexy Halladay, who's been looking great.
Looking at the current performance lists, she's the 12th American by time with some big names yet to run a steeple (Gear hasn't opened, Markezich has only run a casual 9:36 in April).
Allie is doing awesome and it's great to see her succeed on her own terms, but women's steeple is a really deep event in American distance right now- no medal threats but tons of women the Olympic standard who are running low 9:20s.
Halladay overcooked? April 11: 9:26, April 26: 9:27, May 17: 9:39.
I don't think low 9:20s is out of range for Allie O once she gets in a few more races.
Looks like she's doing a big block at altitude, so probably only racing once before trials?
That means she either needs to bust a 9:23 in her next race or do it at trials, which is very, very big ask.
Also she knows she needs the standard, right? She talked about wanting to move from "10th to 12th" in the US to "1st to 3rd," but there's no way 3rd at trials gets her world ranking high enough to go without the standard.
you forgot a few wrote:
Looks like she's doing a big block at altitude, so probably only racing once before trials?
That means she either needs to bust a 9:23 in her next race or do it at trials, which is very, very big ask.
Also she knows she needs the standard, right? She talked about wanting to move from "10th to 12th" in the US to "1st to 3rd," but there's no way 3rd at trials gets her world ranking high enough to go without the standard.
Didn't watch her latest video yet. I wouldn't worry about 9:23. I mean top 3 is a "very, very big ask" too. In recent history at least, top 3 has run faster than that at USAs or Olympic Trials. If she moves up substantially from 12th, she can be happy with her comeback track season no matter what.
If the odd thing happens and she happens to finish top 3 but slower than 9:23 (and didn't get it before), oh well and there's way more positives than negatives from that. She's not a favorite for top 3 anyway (but that doesn't mean it can't happen).