This may be hard to believe, but the teams generally get better the further into the tournament you go. Scoring 40 against podunk U is easier than scoring 30 against U Conn.. Speaking of subpar, you have a subpar iq.
What I've seen this is not about Clark; she's a great player. It's about how her coach uses her. The fact that she gets touches and shots every time down the floor was extolled by the analysts as they felt it was a positive that Bluder "turns Clark loose". I think it hurt them just enough to not get a championship.
We saw this in Chicago with Michael Jordan. The Bulls could never get to to finals because Jordan had the ball way too much and as defenses like the Pistons "Jordan Rules" showed, they double and triple teamed him to make the rest of the team beat them.
Phil Jackson said the success of the Bulls championship teams started when Jordan started to give up the ball more and switched to point guard and involve his teammates.
Lynette Woodard scored almost as many points with no 3-pt shot and she was using a bigger ball than Clark.
And the overall players no where near as good
Clark shot 46% (career) from 2 pt. and 37% from 3-pt. She was shooting with a smaller ball but the circumference of the rim was not proportionally smaller. Clark was greatly aided by this.
Woodard shooting percentages:
Yr. 1 50%
Yr. 2 56%
Yr. 3 50%
Yr. 4 53%
So, she averaged 53% overall (including behind the non-existent arc at the time)
Woodard averaged 15 Rebounds a game for her career.
Clark shot 46% (career) from 2 pt. and 37% from 3-pt. She was shooting with a smaller ball but the circumference of the rim was not proportionally smaller. Clark was greatly aided by this.
Woodard shooting percentages:
Yr. 1 50%
Yr. 2 56%
Yr. 3 50%
Yr. 4 53%
So, she averaged 53% overall (including behind the non-existent arc at the time)
Woodard averaged 15 Rebounds a game for her career.
Clark averaged 7 rebounds a game.
Woodard averaged 25 points a game without the 3-pt. goal. So she maybe averages 33 points a game with it.
Clark shot 46% (career) from 2 pt. and 37% from 3-pt. She was shooting with a smaller ball but the circumference of the rim was not proportionally smaller. Clark was greatly aided by this.
Woodard shooting percentages:
Yr. 1 50%
Yr. 2 56%
Yr. 3 50%
Yr. 4 53%
So, she averaged 53% overall (including behind the non-existent arc at the time)
Woodard averaged 15 Rebounds a game for her career.
Clark averaged 7 rebounds a game.
Woodard couldn't shoot that well. Her free throw % was in the mid 60s. Her field goal% was good because she was 6'0" playing against shorter unathletic women and she shot from close range, like most big men today who have good fg%. If you think there's not much parity today imagine 45 years ago.
Clark shot 46% (career) from 2 pt. and 37% from 3-pt. She was shooting with a smaller ball but the circumference of the rim was not proportionally smaller. Clark was greatly aided by this.
Woodard shooting percentages:
Yr. 1 50%
Yr. 2 56%
Yr. 3 50%
Yr. 4 53%
So, she averaged 53% overall (including behind the non-existent arc at the time)
Woodard averaged 15 Rebounds a game for her career.
Clark averaged 7 rebounds a game.
Woodard couldn't shoot that well. Her free throw % was in the mid 60s. Her field goal% was good because she was 6'0" playing against shorter unathletic women and she shot from close range, like most big men today who have good fg%. If you think there's not much parity today imagine 45 years ago.
You make a couple of good points but Clark is shooting maybe 41% combined. Give her the larger ball and her combined shooting percentage is what? 36%? 33%?
This may be hard to believe, but the teams generally get better the further into the tournament you go. Scoring 40 against podunk U is easier than scoring 30 against U Conn.. Speaking of subpar, you have a subpar iq.
Clark shot 46% (career) from 2 pt. and 37% from 3-pt. She was shooting with a smaller ball but the circumference of the rim was not proportionally smaller. Clark was greatly aided by this.
Woodard shooting percentages:
Yr. 1 50%
Yr. 2 56%
Yr. 3 50%
Yr. 4 53%
So, she averaged 53% overall (including behind the non-existent arc at the time)
Woodard averaged 15 Rebounds a game for her career.
Clark averaged 7 rebounds a game.
and again, Players were no where near as good. at 6'0 back in 1980 Woodard could get to the rim on anyone and get put backs and at that height and that athletic, there were very very few in the game that could even rebound with her, I saw her play, did you? If not go look at tape, I don't have to. Way different game and level of players...back then there were 2-3 teams that were any good at all, if that? Anyone of the top 12 teams this year would have routed the best teams back the, just is. If you do not agree, I cannot help you, you would be way wrong, and I can see you are not admitting that..so....the athleticism of today's game is exponentially advanced from over 40 years ago. In 1978 same window Carold Blazejowski from Monclair State a DIII school in every other sport, was a 3 time All American and avg'ed 10.2 rebounds per game at 5'10. It is NOT even the same world today, let alone same game.She avg'ed 31.7 per game for her career on 55.4% shooting. Come on now? I saw her play too. Lived within 10 miles of Montclair State , I was a HS guard at 5'9" in 1975, she would not have gotten 12 against me.
What I've seen this is not about Clark; she's a great player. It's about how her coach uses her. The fact that she gets touches and shots every time down the floor was extolled by the analysts as they felt it was a positive that Bluder "turns Clark loose". I think it hurt them just enough to not get a championship.
We saw this in Chicago with Michael Jordan. The Bulls could never get to to finals because Jordan had the ball way too much and as defenses like the Pistons "Jordan Rules" showed, they double and triple teamed him to make the rest of the team beat them.
Phil Jackson said the success of the Bulls championship teams started when Jordan started to give up the ball more and switched to point guard and involve his teammates.
^^ THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS !! ^^
Exactly--BUT it isn't just up to coach, because even she admits that she doesn't have complete control over what Clark will do, and she's just too key to sit. Same as Jordan. Although most of the responsibility falls on coach for not having designed plays accordingly, Clark has to learn to accept a system that works--not for her scoring, but for the team winning.
I don't like Staley at all, but I think she out-coached Bluder not only in this game, but on the season. SC absolutely deserved both the championship and the undefeated season.
Clark shot 46% (career) from 2 pt. and 37% from 3-pt. She was shooting with a smaller ball but the circumference of the rim was not proportionally smaller. Clark was greatly aided by this.
Woodard shooting percentages:
Yr. 1 50%
Yr. 2 56%
Yr. 3 50%
Yr. 4 53%
So, she averaged 53% overall (including behind the non-existent arc at the time)
Woodard averaged 15 Rebounds a game for her career.
Clark averaged 7 rebounds a game.
and again, Players were no where near as good. at 6'0 back in 1980 Woodard could get to the rim on anyone and get put backs and at that height and that athletic, there were very very few in the game that could even rebound with her, I saw her play, did you? If not go look at tape, I don't have to. Way different game and level of players...back then there were 2-3 teams that were any good at all, if that? Anyone of the top 12 teams this year would have routed the best teams back the, just is. If you do not agree, I cannot help you, you would be way wrong, and I can see you are not admitting that..so....the athleticism of today's game is exponentially advanced from over 40 years ago. In 1978 same window Carold Blazejowski from Monclair State a DIII school in every other sport, was a 3 time All American and avg'ed 10.2 rebounds per game at 5'10. It is NOT even the same world today, let alone same game.She avg'ed 31.7 per game for her career on 55.4% shooting. Come on now? I saw her play too. Lived within 10 miles of Montclair State , I was a HS guard at 5'9" in 1975, she would not have gotten 12 against me.
You have to admit that Clark's shooting percentage would be waaayyyy lower playing with the 29.5 inch ball instead of the women's 28.5 inche one. 37% 3 pt. with the smaller ball is not great.
Sally , hate to break it to you, but her 3 point shooting % is baked into the overall at 46.x %...you are wrong on so many easily researched and known facts, I would quit , while not even ahead, you are wrong on every premise regarding this stuff, stay in your lane LOL.
Sally , hate to break it to you, but her 3 point shooting % is baked into the overall at 46.x %...you are wrong on so many easily researched and known facts, I would quit , while not even ahead, you are wrong on every premise regarding this stuff, stay in your lane LOL.
You guys keep saying how bad women's basketball was back 40 and 50 years ago. Well I am looking at the top 30 women's collegiate teams of all time:
16th - 1982 Rutgers
14th - 1995 UConn
13th - 1993 Texas Tech
12th - 1977 Delta State
10th - 1986 Texas
9th - 1977 Immaculata
7th - 1978 UCLA
6th - 1984 USC
3rd - 1980 Old Dominion
2nd - 1998 Tennn
So most of the very best teams of all time are not recent ones. Check mate.
Sally , hate to break it to you, but her 3 point shooting % is baked into the overall at 46.x %...you are wrong on so many easily researched and known facts, I would quit , while not even ahead, you are wrong on every premise regarding this stuff, stay in your lane LOL.
Please reply to the post after yours where 10 out of the top 16 women's teams of all time were more than 25 years ago.
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