College coaches couldn’t care less about XC times when they’re recruiting. They want to see track times and they want to see how runners do vs other runners in the same race and on the same course.
Hmmm, imagine if there were a software algorithm that could sift through all of the race data and agglomerate and normalize results across different courses.
This was a lead-in for someone to chime in, “Like LACCTIC?”
The NCAA said that it was 6k. Are the results official?
there is a very good post above, I will quote it here. "just to chime in: Engineer here. Metrology 101. 6km does not suggest 6000 +-1m, it suggests 6 +-1. It's right in the name. And that is appropriate because measurement with a wheel is not good for grass and sand. What is good method? Well it could be measured more accurately with some other method like chains but nobody (who is sensible) cares, because factors like turns, hills, bad footing, and changes in footing due to moisture and pounding by previous runners, mean that you cannot compare times from one course to another even if you know they are the same length, and maybe not even on the same course from one day to another."
Do you not understand that "6", "6.0", 6.00" mean different things.
It was "6" in that it was between 5.50001 and 6.4999 no doubt. That does not mean all "6K" courses are the same length, nor are any or all of them 6000 meters, although we could hope!
I'm sure the results are official. But then again way back when the NFL did not understand footballs lose pressure when temperature is dropped and got some eggs on their face. So take what they (the NCAA) say with a grain of salt.
This same thing happened last year. I mean the runner from Miami ran 18:30s. And there simply isn't enough data in college running to trust algorithms.
You are correct. Thank you for pointing that out. It says 6000 meters which seems to indicate 5999.5 at the shortest.
I see FL has the Dec BU meet on their schedule. I'll be awaiting a 14:40ish performance (or performances if AL decides to go)!
No one (but you?) is saying 14:40’s. The most reasonable thinking is ~15:00-15:05, and that’s if they get a pacer to take it out at sub-15 pace. And maybe that is too soon for Valby in spikes on an Indoor track, anyway.
I see FL has the Dec BU meet on their schedule. I'll be awaiting a 14:40ish performance (or performances if AL decides to go)!
No one (but you?) is saying 14:40’s. The most reasonable thinking is ~15:00-15:05, and that’s if they get a pacer to take it out at sub-15 pace. And maybe that is too soon for Valby in spikes on an Indoor track, anyway.
But thanks for the schedule info.
well I'm not very smart but I think if (as one genius inisists) she can run 15:00 pace for 6000 m then I'd expect her to run a 5000 m race in nice indoor conditions on a fast track with likely a fast pacer somewhat faster than 15:00! Of course any disent to the "6000 m" she just ran seems to get looked down upon by her boosters.
I agree a more reasonable expection is what you suggest - of course I also think the "6000 m" was maybe a bit short
only took 4 years 🥲💛 Soo much fun working hard to move up throughout the whole race. I’m so lucky to have teammates who push me to be tougher. Our team did so well… took 6th against a field with 5 nationally ranked teams. 4...
Her 4k split (12:28) was probably more indicative of her 5k pace (thus, 15:35) on that course in ‘trainers’.
Sorry, this isn’t quite right (see below.)
If, IF, she could have held her 4k split pace (3:07/km) over a full 6km, that would be 18:42. The 5k equivalent, per the JD Calculator, is 15:24 (instead of 15:35), and that’s without any temperature adjustment.
Her 4k split (12:28) was probably more indicative of her 5k pace (thus, 15:35) on that course in ‘trainers’.
Sorry, this isn’t quite right (see below.)
If, IF, she could have held her 4k split pace (3:07/km) over a full 6km, that would be 18:42. The 5k equivalent, per the JD Calculator, is 15:24 (instead of 15:35), and that’s without any temperature adjustment.
Similarly, if, IF, Churchill could have held her 4k split pace (3:13/km) over a full 6km, that would be 19:18. The 5k equivalent, per the JD Calculator, is 15:54 (without temperature adjustment.)
