Every great college runner was a front runner in HS. No Tuohy is chicken sheet like Pre said. She is complete opposite. Valby is Pre. She has the looks and charisma and the front running dominance.
The only way Valby (or anyone running 15:20's) could suddenly improve to become a 14:45 runner since June is drugs. Even factoring in her injuries. She maintained running and 2 hours a day cross training for the last year so has not been undertrained (see Grant Fisher).
Since most on here would like to believe she is clean, perhaps she is in 15:05-15:10 shape and Tuohy is just still in 15:15-15:18 shape since USATF.
The only way Valby (or anyone running 15:20's) could suddenly improve to become a 14:45 runner since June is drugs. Even factoring in her injuries. She maintained running and 2 hours a day cross training for the last year so has not been undertrained (see Grant Fisher).
Since most on here would like to believe she is clean, perhaps she is in 15:05-15:10 shape and Tuohy is just still in 15:15-15:18 shape since USATF.
Interesting side note: KT's 8:35 3000 in Feb 2023 is given the same points as an indoor 14:46 by World Athletics. She has not been injured since then. When will she return to (or surpass) her peak form? Presumably aiming for Olympic trials -- but will she have minor peak for xc champs next month?
KT has b33n conscipus with her training to peak for 3 ncaa meets l/3 sports. Valby missed indoors last year but she was nit pushing g full throttle and more reluctant in her training for preservation. Three sxna in ncaa is ridiculous, it should be be allowed and th3n another outdoor szm after that. Shouldn't be allowed to run athletes ragged like that. Ncaa system is difficult for a distance runner.
Parker Valby always running every race like its the last race she'll ever do.
Tuohy is paces herself to peak on the race that actually matters. That's not how she was as a runner, before she would drop everyone from the gun but Coach Henes has done a good job of training her, having different ways to win.
It has now been proven that no one trains harder than Valby, her VO2 is off the charts but Tuohy is a different beast on her own despite the more traditional training (just pure running) under her belt. Tuohy grew up as a champion and thrives under pressure. She loves winning, national championships. Its all that matters to her.
Why I believe Tuohy will still win the national title is because .... when Tuohy loses, she never loses the same way again.
Parker Valby is at her peak, but Tuohy just getting started in this season.
It's not like these NCAA stars race a lot and are going to the well. How many races do they actually run in a XC season these days, not many.
The only way Valby (or anyone running 15:20's) could suddenly improve to become a 14:45 runner since June is drugs. Even factoring in her injuries. She maintained running and 2 hours a day cross training for the last year so has not been undertrained (see Grant Fisher).
Since most on here would like to believe she is clean, perhaps she is in 15:05-15:10 shape and Tuohy is just still in 15:15-15:18 shape since USATF.
Interesting side note: KT's 8:35 3000 in Feb 2023 is given the same points as an indoor 14:46 by World Athletics. She has not been injured since then. When will she return to (or surpass) her peak form? Presumably aiming for Olympic trials -- but will she have minor peak for xc champs next month?
Morgan ran 8:30 in that race but has yet to break 15:00. She was more of a 1500m runner though.
Tuohy hasn't been injured but she did suffer burnout last spring may have taken a break according to Henes.
I'm going with Valby this time for the simple reason that when the two of them raced each other Valby handily won. That could have been the result of an early peak but Valby doesn't seem to be slowing down.
Parker Valby always running every race like its the last race she'll ever do.
Tuohy is paces herself to peak on the race that actually matters. That's not how she was as a runner, before she would drop everyone from the gun but Coach Henes has done a good job of training her, having different ways to win.
It has now been proven that no one trains harder than Valby, her VO2 is off the charts but Tuohy is a different beast on her own despite the more traditional training (just pure running) under her belt. Tuohy grew up as a champion and thrives under pressure. She loves winning, national championships. Its all that matters to her.
Why I believe Tuohy will still win the national title is because .... when Tuohy loses, she never loses the same way again.
Parker Valby is at her peak, but Tuohy just getting started in this season.
Don't sleep on Rosina Machu from Gonzaga. She's the REAL DEAL!
I’m sure Tuohy will not be running for 2nd place at Nats. While Valby has the psychological edge from the last two races, the burden of being the favorite to win is now squarely on Valby.
Tuohy knows she can’t let Valby get too far ahead, and I guarantee Tuohy will be ready for Nats. She can play the stalker, and remember what happened last year.
Everyone forgets that Valby was in better shape than Tuohey last year too, but Valby ran an extra 40 meters by not running the tangents. Even last year, if we could do a computer simulation of the NCAA championship race, Valby wins that race 845 out of 1,000 times.
If she's not injured, Valby wins this year by 8 to 20 seconds.
I'm going with Valby this time for the simple reason that when the two of them raced each other Valby handily won. That could have been the result of an early peak but Valby doesn't seem to be slowing down.
That is a good of reason as any but we are always in the dark about how fresh people were. Maybe one coach did one easy day and the other did two. And the end of the season some people always step up and others regress. Val by deserves to be the favorite but if she gets run down, it wouldn’t be super shocking. She is not 30s better than the field…
Valby is the one who might be the great white hope to challenge the Africans one day. It is likely to be Valby, not Tuohy, who makes it to Paris next year. Tuohey is great and nothing against her, but Valby won the genetics lottery between the two. Valby's legs are about 4 inches longer. Also Valby might be the next American steeplechase great.
Everyone forgets that Valby was in better shape than Tuohey last year too, but Valby ran an extra 40 meters by not running the tangents. Even last year, if we could do a computer simulation of the NCAA championship race, Valby wins that race 845 out of 1,000 times.
If she's not injured, Valby wins this year by 8 to 20 seconds.
From what I recall of the race40 m seems high. Valby ran so.me turns a little wide but so did tuohy when she was in the pack. Valby had the one flagrant faulty turn and a couple extra wide turns imho.
Tuohy ran her down over the final 1.5K making up 15 seconds then winning by over 3. And Tuohy had to run that way bc of the team issue. Tangents were not saving Valby. She got overpowered.
The only way Valby (or anyone running 15:20's) could suddenly improve to become a 14:45 runner since June is drugs. Even factoring in her injuries. She maintained running and 2 hours a day cross training for the last year so has not been undertrained (see Grant Fisher).
Since most on here would like to believe she is clean, perhaps she is in 15:05-15:10 shape and Tuohy is just still in 15:15-15:18 shape since USATF.
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