It's unbelievable that Kelvin Kiptum could be totally clean in all his marathon performances so far

Experiencing pain during a race to me means acute pain such as muscle cramp, tendonitis, foot bruise, blisters, broken ribs, injuries etc

They should of asked have you ever felt like you suffered during a marathon because his face at the end of London obviously says he has.

I am friends with agent Tom Ratciffe who was an assistant to Kim McDonald - Komen's agent. He has told me that the first time he went to Komen's house to meet him- he was living so far out in the bush that he was afraid it was a setup and he was going to get robbed. He has confirmed to me the story that you don't believe - that Komen had only a vague sense of time. All he wanted to hear was faster or slower.

What the heck is "anthropogenic RF" ? I see you posting that a lot and have no idea what it is. I know it stands for "radiofrequency (RF) electromagnetic fields (EMF)", right? But i don't get it.

Google definition:

"(chiefly of pollution or environmental change) originating in human activity". It means RF, as an environmental pollutant that is created by human beings.

Exactly my point, he was living so far out in the bush that there was such a dearth of anthropogenic RF and EMFs interacting with his body's matter that made him so friggin talented in the middle distance. And yet it was also shortlived for a 2-3 years because he left the bushland far too many times to enter and race in an anthropogenic RF and EMF environment which slowed him down just enough. It's not the altitude, never was a factor in high-performance sport, nor was it the drugs; if you could hypothetically control your environmental RF exposures so well you would achieve Renato Canova ideal that a naturally conditioned athlete cannot be beaten or superseded by a doped up one.

Except Renato doesn't know that this ideal he believes in, which I know to be definitely true, has nothing to do with his highly advanced training paradigm but only everything to do with being far out in the bushland because that's where it's devoid of anthropogenic RF and EMFs---where there are truly no limits to the human mind and body. Not only your mind becomes so strong (loses sense of time like you said about Komen), but your body also becomes so energetically resonant and firing on all cylinders. This invincibility of mind-body axis is the actual potion of the perfect high-performance specimen.

It's little wonder that scouts and agents go into the arid deserts and sparsely populated bushlands or highlands to look for distance talent, but also talent of every sort from every other sport. They don't go scouting in the RF polluted cities or do so to a far lesser extent because the human beings in the cities are just so totally inferior in mind and body, and I'm not referring to modern IQ when I talk about 'inferior'. The bushland folks have an IQ of a different sort, no less inferior I mean, than the folks in the modern cities.

lol you don't have to get into weird woo-woo like "5G is toxic to runners"

But obviously environment is most definitely critical to runners, air and water quality and it must take a toll every year.

East Africa, especially at altitude has got to be massively more clean as far as air compared to say the USA where we have insane levels of car traffic, millions of trucks with emissions bypass, nano tire particulates flying all over the place and inhaling brake dust with asbestos at every intersection

Then there is literally no fresh water in the USA anymore with plastic particles detected, fracking, and "forever chemicals". There was huge news recently from all the major news outlets they are finding forever chemicals in pregnant mothers milk. I doubt that is the case in east-africa

Oh yes, you do bring up a pertinent point. Air and food chain pollution is taken as a whole with anthropogenic RF and EMF when you talk about environmental pollution. The reason I left it out because I assume that is more widely known already in this forum. On the other hand, knowledge about harm of anthropogenic RF is not only widely suppressed by mainstream media by the orders of the telecom companies but also despised and frowned upon by mainstream public due in no small part to their addiction and obsession with use of RF technology. It's called cognitive dissonance---if you are using it to return a reply to me on this forum it's cognitively much more difficult to overcome the obstacle in your brain to admit that it's harmful to you.

The combined lack of neanderthal DNA and anthropogenic RF exposure is what makes Kiptum so incredible. Anybody who puts it down to shoes and doping is a racist.

"grammar"

It's good that you're impressed because I doubt anyone else would care.

That was kind of my point. But like everything - they, too, have their limits.

You care. You commented about my progress. And unlike you, I have friends who care about me. 😊

Acute pain during a race isn't necessarily muscular. Extreme fatigue is also painful, and it is a signal from the body to back off to reduce the risk of injury or other harm. Taken to its extremes it will result in collapse or even heart attacks - as we see with some middle-aged athletes, like squash players.

I don't care. An expression of indifference is not caring. Except to one patently self-absorbed as you are.

Self-absorbed????? 😂 Coming from a narcissistic sociopath that's pretty funny. 🤣

Until someone tests positive, probably an needless comment. You may be right, but the negative comment probably gave you a 10 sec dopamine hit, but still bad thoughts.

Come on man... this is like Podacar'a camp claiming he has super human ability to recover 3x faster than everyone, which is what makes him amazing. Some of you are extremely gullible.

I was simply using how tired she looked as a comparison. Of course you immediately move the goalposts and talk about her and others, while not actually responding to my point.

Coward.

You are in the correct ballpark of the knowledge that I espouse and advocate. The ones I espouse and advocate says that while shoes, drugs, wind drafting, wavelights are all advantageous to different degrees large or small depending on circumstances, the lack of anthropogenic RF and EMF is advantageous to a degree so large that always trounces and makes a mockery of the advantages provided by all these abovementioned ones.

An example: I always use my favorite talisman and staunch Muslim EL G. What did El G have in his day compared to Jakob Ingebrigsten? Let's see below:

1) Zero or bare-bones RF and EMF infrastructure and systems in the Atlas mountains especially and to a certain extent at sea level in Rabat where he was training and living. There probably wasn't a cell tower for tens of miles in the training zones he used to train and live in, and neither did he own a cellular device or any other electronic equipment including computers. He said it himself back then, I remembered. He said 'no computers'. You wonder how he communicated with his mum and dad? Well he said 'no communication for 11 months of the year except by occasional written letters ferried by porters'! Such a lifestyle and environment was a perfect replica of Daniel Komen's 'deserted bushland' in the middle of nowhere, which safe to assume, wouldn't have had a cell tower for tens if not hundreds of miles. And we all know how just as good Daniel Komen was as El G. The 2 were virtually interchangeable high-performance specimens.

2) Jakob Ingebrigsten, a metrosexual and modern man is far 'softer' and 'weaker' compared to El G, having all the digital connectivity and with it all the anthropogenic RF and EMF exposures at his fingertips. He is literally surrounded in a bubble of RF and EMF and perennially exposed to it forever, so is there any wonder how despite all the wavelights, supershoes, wind drafting and doped track surfaces he still struggles to run 3:27 and 3:43 while El G who should be by our luxurious modern standards of training and supershoes far more inferior a high-performance athlete is on the contrary far more superior despite a grave lack of such luxuries?

El G's 3:26 in an era of abject lack of anthropogenic RF and EMF exposures (was a slow 2G era in 1998 mostly concentrated in cities and not in East/North African bushlands and deserts), abject training methodologies, abject shoes/equipment/weights/gym/wavelights/drugs, abject running vests and shorts that flapped in the wind creating more drag compared to Jakob Ingebrigsten's tight body hugging suit, is beyond proof that the advantage provided by lack of anthropogenic RF and EMF is the winner by an astronomical distance over the rest of the other advantages.

There is a part in me that wants El G's 3:26 and 3:43 to remain unbeatable if only so that people and the generations of athletes and fans ahead would be properly stupefied at how all the increasing modern advances of technology like shoes, drugs and wavelights couldn't somehow beat a truly ancient record from a century ago? (speaking from the year 2098). Only in such stupefaction proper would people finally wake up from their dreams and take notice all this while at the glaring obvious answer standing right in front of them----lack of anthropogenic RF and EMF in the ambient environment in 1998 compared to all the subsequent years leading to 2098 where of course it would have increased exponentially with perhaps 20G by 2098). If that's the case, I expect high-performance athletes, in a 20G ambient environment, needing to be fitted with computer chips in all their brain and muscles just to run 3:30 for the 1500m. How properly embarrassed would we all be that human physiology/cell had deteriorated so badly to require computer chips fitted like a Terminator only to run a slowish 3:30?