I thought it was a noncontroversial take that he could get the standard on a flat course, easy peasy. But now I've learned he has 6 children(!). I thought it was just him, his wife and a burrito.
That's gotta be a stress on training, but also a huge motivator cause I didn't know a runner's salary could support that. Assuming his wife works but is pregnant a lot of the time. I say he's gonna get 2:08 something in Berlin.
From what I've seen, Fauble has usually run marathons conservatively evidently looking to place in the money by picking off guys who went with the early leaders and couldn't maintain it. Having spent most of his career without a sponsor and needing prize and appearance money to survive this sort of strategy makes total sense. But it also eliminates much chance of putting the hammer down from the gun and hoping to maintain that effort all the way.
He's a guy who I think probably has faster times in him than he's shown so far. I don't know if that means his potential is 2:07 something or if it is whether he'll have an actual "dream" race where nothing goes wrong and derails him. You may want to discount his 2:08 because it was run on an aided course and that's worth mentioning. But I never found Boston an "easy" course and I've never found anyone else who's run it that does either so 2:07 for him doesn't seem like an overreach. Anyway, having a sponsor should allow him to be a bit more aggressive in Berlin than he's been in most of his races.
"..most of his career without a sponsor..."
"....having a sponsor should allow..."
These comments (exact quotes, actually) are way out of line. How much of his post-collegiate career has been unsponsored? About a year? Maybe less than that, right?
It's true that he wasn't sponsored in high school, but had free shoes during his NCAA days. So you can call that a gear-only sponsor plus travel and entries taken care of. Since then, I know that one Boston was unsponsored - that was 2 Bostons ago. Not sure about the New York following that. That was around the time he picked up his current deal. At most 2 marathon buildups and 2 marathons he was without a sponsor. Oh, and a half before Boston. Every other marathon he's run was very much with a sponsor.
Not sure what your agenda is making this stuff up. Just a Nike shill maybe?
What is that supposed to mean? Boston is point to point and net downhill. Both those factors make Boston non eligible for records.
Well, have you run Boston or not? We all want to know!
If you had, you would know what happens at mile 17. "Point to point" doesn't mean anything unless you have a strong tailwind. And it's death if you have a headwind.
If you ran the hills in Boston you would probably change your mind. It's not a course I would pick for a PR attempt. And Kipchoge ran from the front and made the classic Boston-rookie mistake and got dropped in the hills.
What is that supposed to mean? Boston is point to point and net downhill. Both those factors make Boston non eligible for records.
Well, have you run Boston or not? We all want to know!
If you had, you would know what happens at mile 17. "Point to point" doesn't mean anything unless you have a strong tailwind. And it's death if you have a headwind.
If you ran the hills in Boston you would probably change your mind. It's not a course I would pick for a PR attempt. And Kipchoge ran from the front and made the classic Boston-rookie mistake and got dropped in the hills.
No, he didn't. He was in the front of the lead pack and so were the others who were next to him. Ridiculous and silly take on reality. He had a bad day, period...it happens.
These comments (exact quotes, actually) are way out of line. How much of his post-collegiate career has been unsponsored? About a year? Maybe less than that, right?
It's true that he wasn't sponsored in high school, but had free shoes during his NCAA days. So you can call that a gear-only sponsor plus travel and entries taken care of. Since then, I know that one Boston was unsponsored - that was 2 Bostons ago. Not sure about the New York following that. That was around the time he picked up his current deal. At most 2 marathon buildups and 2 marathons he was without a sponsor. Oh, and a half before Boston. Every other marathon he's run was very much with a sponsor.
Not sure what your agenda is making this stuff up. Just a Nike shill maybe?
he was unsponsored for a year. Quit the NAZ Elite team and Hoka released him from his contract in Dec, he ran Boston in April unsponsored, and signed with Nike the night before the NYC marathon.
I don't pay real close attention to who is sponsored by whom. I know he wasn't sponsored for a while. Maybe it was a shorter while than I recall. I don't even know who his sponsor is. Sponsored or not, racing to win what you think will bring the biggest payday is not a bad idea. Now what does anything in all of this make me seem like a Nike shill? How does Nike figure into any of this?
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I thought it was a noncontroversial take that he could get the standard on a flat course, easy peasy. But now I've learned he has 6 children(!). I thought it was just him, his wife and a burrito.
That's gotta be a stress on training, but also a huge motivator cause I didn't know a runner's salary could support that. Assuming his wife works but is pregnant a lot of the time. I say he's gonna get 2:08 something in Berlin.
That’s Jared Ward with the gaggle of children not Scott.
I thought it was a noncontroversial take that he could get the standard on a flat course, easy peasy. But now I've learned he has 6 children(!). I thought it was just him, his wife and a burrito.
That's gotta be a stress on training, but also a huge motivator cause I didn't know a runner's salary could support that. Assuming his wife works but is pregnant a lot of the time. I say he's gonna get 2:08 something in Berlin.
That’s Jared Ward with the gaggle of children not Scott.
That makes sense. I must have misheard. OK, he's def getting the standard.
Looking for clarification, based on the below passage from the letsrun article:
"That’s because of a new provision in the Olympic qualification system which states that any country with three qualified athletes may choose to send any three athletes it wants to Paris — as long as they have run at least 2:11:30 (men) or 2:29:30 (women) within the qualifying window. That’s why every American will be rooting for Fauble and others to run fast this fall: if the US has three athletes with the standard, then anyone who has run under 2:11:30 has the opportunity to make the team by finishing in the top three at the Trials."
So what happens if no U.S. runners get the standard?
What happens if only Scott gets the standard but then he does not finish in the top 3 at the trials?
I believe that Scott Fauble will run 2:07:20 in Berlin this weekend.
I also believe that there are 3 Americans better than that right now. (no names mentioned)
There are only 3 American marathoners ever who have run faster than 2:07:21. You are saying there are at least 4 right now?
It's a new era. Do you think there aren't a few Americans who are better than Koen Naert? A 34 year-old Belgian marathoner who ran 2:06:56 this year. A guy with PBs at shorter distances of 13:32/28:32/61:38. This isn't a supreme talent. 2:07 should be the bare minimum that elites are aiming for these days
So what happens if no U.S. runners get the standard?
What happens if only Scott gets the standard but then he does not finish in the top 3 at the trials?
If an American runs under 2:08:10, one Olympic auto qualifying spot gets unlocked. It can be reallocated to any American athlete that has run under the B standard (2:11:xx). So Fauble's auto qualifier could be reallocated to a trials top three finisher if Fauble places "outside the money."
The alternative way to qualify is through world rankings "path to Paris." That list has not come out yet, and it's extremely confusing to figure out. I believe if America has three guys ranked high enough on that list those spots can also be reallocated?
I'm slightly confused about how it would come out if, say, Fauble was the only guy to hit the auto standard, the US doesn't have any guys inside the top 65 on the world rankings list, and Fauble doesn't win the trials but finishes top three. Does his auto qualifying spot get reallocated to the winner of the US trials, or does Fauble get to go to the Olympics?
I'm slightly confused about how it would come out if, say, Fauble was the only guy to hit the auto standard, the US doesn't have any guys inside the top 65 on the world rankings list, and Fauble doesn't win the trials but finishes top three. Does his auto qualifying spot get reallocated to the winner of the US trials, or does Fauble get to go to the Olympics?
There are only 3 American marathoners ever who have run faster than 2:07:21. You are saying there are at least 4 right now?
It's a new era. Do you think there aren't a few Americans who are better than Koen Naert? A 34 year-old Belgian marathoner who ran 2:06:56 this year. A guy with PBs at shorter distances of 13:32/28:32/61:38. This isn't a supreme talent. 2:07 should be the bare minimum that elites are aiming for these days
The expectations for Connor Mantz were probably higher than any other American. People were predicting 2:07, 2:06 and even 2:05/2:04. On a very fast Chicago course he runs mid 2:08.
You say it is a new era. Is it really? The top Americans 45 years ago were running about the same times as the Top Americans today, even with the Supershoes and all the other advances.
I'm slightly confused about how it would come out if, say, Fauble was the only guy to hit the auto standard, the US doesn't have any guys inside the top 65 on the world rankings list, and Fauble doesn't win the trials but finishes top three. Does his auto qualifying spot get reallocated to the winner of the US trials, or does Fauble get to go to the Olympics?
Yes, if that winner has run at least 2:11:30
That's confusing. And Fauble also gets to go because he has the standard?
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