In depth team reviews/rankings of men and women
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#4 will be released today
thestridereport
Men:
5. Wisconsin
6. UNC
7. Notre Dame
8. UVA
9. Oregon
10. Colorado
11. Tennessee
12. Villanova
13. Texas
14. Arkansas
15. Washington
16. Portland
17. Harvard
18. Alabama
19. Syracuse
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I don't see this as "NAU and then everyone else" unless Colin Sahlman really pops this fall. Far more likely there's a big 3 of NAU, BYU & OSU all fairly evenly matched, with Stanford lurking if the Young twins adapt to 10k quickly.
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The USTFCCCA men's pre-season rankings are out. What strikes you as accurate? What strikes you as terribly wrong?
Team Preseason
Northern Arizona 1
Oklahoma State 2
BYU 3
Stanford 4
Wisconsin 5
North Carolina 6
Colorado 7
Notre Dame 8
Portland 9
Virginia 10
Syracuse 11
Villanova 12
Texas 13
Harvard 14
Oregon 15
Tennessee 16
Air Force 17
Washington 18
Butler 19
Arkansas 20
Tulsa 21
NC State 21
Alabama 23
Princeton 24
Iowa State 25
Montana State 26
Michigan 27
California Baptist 28
Florida State 29
Gonzaga 30
Duke RV
Providence RV
Ole Miss RV
Eastern Kentucky RV
Wake Forest RV
Georgetown RV70 -
Portland at 9th is a hot take.
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Based on the USTFCCCA article, it seems like Isai Rodriquez is not coming back for XC and only for track. Probably would favor NAU instead of them being neck and neck with OKST
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Hobby10k wrote:
Based on the USTFCCCA article, it seems like Isai Rodriquez is not coming back for XC and only for track. Probably would favor NAU instead of them being neck and neck with OKST
Rodriguez lost his eligibility for cross
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Live results for Adidas XC challenge
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Underway wrote:
Live results for Adidas XC challenge
https://results.flashresults.com/2023_09-15_Adidas/index.htm
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I recently celebrated 7 years living here in Flagstaff. Before moving here, I had been living in Laramie, WY. Both towns are right around 7,000 feet and basically located in national forests with lots of soft-surface trails around them
while living in Laramie I used to wonder why the University of Wyoming wasn't better at XC given their altitude and the availability of trails
but since moving to Flagstaff I've come to realize there's so much more to having a good XC program than being at altitude
you need great coaches who are on the cutting edge of sport science (which NAU obviously has), you need great trails (Flagstaff has the best in the USA and Laramie's are merely good) and then you need great team culture/chemistry/training partners (which is another thing Mike Smith & NAU do so well)
being at altitude helps (probably?), but it seems impossible to be a great program without the coaching/trails/culture
are there other ingredients needed for a strong XC program?
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Where's Nico?
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I saw him at the women's soccer game last weekend
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GOWYONAU wrote:
I recently celebrated 7 years living here in Flagstaff. Before moving here, I had been living in Laramie, WY. Both towns are right around 7,000 feet and basically located in national forests with lots of soft-surface trails around them
while living in Laramie I used to wonder why the University of Wyoming wasn't better at XC given their altitude and the availability of trails
but since moving to Flagstaff I've come to realize there's so much more to having a good XC program than being at altitude
you need great coaches who are on the cutting edge of sport science (which NAU obviously has), you need great trails (Flagstaff has the best in the USA and Laramie's are merely good) and then you need great team culture/chemistry/training partners (which is another thing Mike Smith & NAU do so well)
being at altitude helps (probably?), but it seems impossible to be a great program without the coaching/trails/culture
are there other ingredients needed for a strong XC program?
Flagstaff got on the radar of the running community right before the 1968 Olympics in Mexico City. Many runners came to Flagstaff to altitude train. not just US athletes, international ones too. there were tons of forest service roads that made for excellent running. they even had a pre-olympic event there that drew thousands. the city of Flagstaff realized what a boon to the economy having athletes there was so they've gone out of their way to keep this going. part of their town budget is to build and maintain trails for runners.
yes, altitude is the main draw, but the will of the running community and the town and university to draw top coaches, create pro running teams, is more important.
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New Mexico men’s team’s 1-3 are freshmen
https://live.pttiming.com/xc-ptt.html?mid=580300
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