Who is more likely to be an Olympic champion, Parker Valby, Addy Wiley or Katelyn Tuhoy?

So “Tuohy is not a champion”, huh? Now it’s true she did not win a title this outdoor season.

However, what about the four individual NCAA titles that she has won?

Just pointing out some facts.

That doesn't mean she is or was clean either. You may not like Astro's rants but he is is not wrong that the Wiley situation is at least suspicious.

We have never before had a situation where a breakout phenom just so happens to have been coached by a program that has these kind of doping allegations directly from other students. Brushing it under the rug is bad for the sport, and sends a bad message to the other student athletes and the victims.

As to who has the greatest chances of a medal, well its obviously Wiley if she is not clean (and no, we don't know that for sure). 5k and up runners have a very low chance.

No one will ever respect or trust her? I do. My whole team does. Most fans know nothing about the HU situation. 95% of American track fans will be very excited to have a 19 year old make a world team. It's only a few angry Tuohy fans here who want to destroy her.

Why do you even allow threads like this if your system just automatically deletes reasonable posts? Just take the whole thread down.

I am revisiting this thread and as I thought would happen, it went off of the rails.

Your comment above now makes no sense because you cried to the mods due to a picture that clearly showed KT just looks like a normal runner that is not really big at all. The picture didn't fit your narrative so you cried like a big baby.

You must be a woman-hater and an incel. Do you think that these women like for men to comment on their bodies and about them being big or muscular? They just look like normal athletes to me. Note that I have aid nothing about the other two in this thread - Parker Valby or Addy Wiley. Somehow you thought it was fitting to comment on KT's musculature.

It is no wonder that the women athletes think don't like this place and think it's a cesspool. It's because of chuckleheads like you. You and people like you should listen to what Anna Hall has to say about the subject. She sums it up nicely...

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I haven't communicated with the mods about this thread at all so you lost me there. Unless you mean YOU are a mod using a fake handle?

100% this. And look no further than one page back on this same thread and you have Boaty Mcf**k Face saying KT needs to get more fit and lose weight. Hell no!

Then it was one of your other aliases.

You commented about KT having big shoulders and big legs. Your implication is obvious and thinly veiled. I posted a pic of her standing next to Laurie Henes after the ACC meet and it clearly shows that she is not abnormally large or anything like that. In response to the picture, you post this:

"So to refute me you pick a stationary side on shot? Got it."

The picture that I posted, which was totally innocuous, disappears. I just assumed that you were the one that cried to the mods because the picture did not fit the narrative that you're trying to push here.

Again, if you think these women like men like you commenting on their bodies, do yourself a favor and listed to Anna Hall in that video I posted.

I think out of the three, Katelyn T. has the best chance for making a team and into medal contention when she goes pro. She has shown strength and progression throughout her college career. Just because she had an awful outdoor NCAA championship run, doesn’t mean she’s on the backslide. Look at Jenny Barringer when she was poised to win NCAA 2009 cross after the departure of Sally Kipyego. That race was setup for her to win and she literally fell apart from some the pressure of her contract negotiations and outside pressure but went on to have a highly decorated career.

Valby is a bit of a question mark with her lack of consistency and injury history. She’s cross trained her way to great races but getting into the pro ranks is a different ball game when you need strength and consistency to handle the pro schedule and expectations.

Wiley IMO has clearly has a ton a of talent but what’s going to happen to her when she can no longer hide behind her Huntington coaches and that bubble if she’s able to go pro? Add in the fact that, are there any shoe companies that will touch her with how bad that scandal has been handled? If she does make a team, is she willing to answer the hard questions about her associations, because part of getting an athlete’s story, is getting the WHOLE story. l don’t know think she’ll be able to handle the mental gymnastics of the media and her competitors at the next level let alone just the marketing side of it.

Tuohy has the best shot, followed by Valby. Valby has huge potential but chronic injuries are a risk. She reminds me of Eilish McColgan for that reason.

Wiley is at the center of a huge scandal. Depending on how cynical you are, you could say in that case Wiley has the best shot because she may be getting some help.

Earlier someone mentioned that Valby used to be a swimmer. If that is true, I could absolutely see her being a triathlete. She currently uses ARC trainers as a big part of her training and the muscles used for that are similar to what speed skaters use. Many speed skaters are excellent cyclists.

This will be the last thing I say about the Wiley/HU situation:

Addy is an extremely talented runner. She seems like a good person. The adults in her life have failed her and continue to fail her.

The BEST thing she can do for herself is separate herself from the quagmire that surrounds her. It is not unrealistic to say that she should make the USA final and possibly even make the team. She is 19 years old and has run 4:03. Shoe companies should be in a bidding war right now to sign her before USAs. As talented as she is, we all know that an elite trajectory is not a guarantee, and she should really try to cash in while she can. Sure, she can continue to race in US circuit races and pick up prize money here and there, but she is missing out on shoe company money. While I don't think any US middle distance runner is going to sign a contract at 19 that will set them up for life, a decent deal could get her to a place where she can establish the life she deserves, away from the places and people that have put her in this spot.

If she stays in her current situation, she will have to address the same things over and over again, everytime she races. Let's say hypothetically she makes the 2024 Olympic team. If she is still bogged down by the HU situation, there is no way NBC or any other media outlet is going to feature her, tell her story, etc.

IF she finds a new situation and separates herself from what has happened to her, she will have a story that the media will eat up. That translates to more opportunities and more $$.

I wish her well.

I love Valby but have yet to see her show the ability to kick (and she's the first to admit she's not a strong kicker). With the NCAA dominating late teen/early 20s for US runners, it's really hard to project where they are in their Junior year of college. I'd like to see what training at altitude can do for all three of these runners - Tuohy has shown the most progression year over year (the odd NCAAs this year notwithstanding), Valby has the most overall physical talent and Wiley's the wild card due to age and the other weird stuff that has plagued her career so far. I would still put my money on KT if I had to bet, but the long-term for anyone at that age is such a crapshoot, I would consider getting an ROI on that bet to be a longshot.

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Pavement88, while I appreciate your sensible comment, we know this won’t be your last post on the Wiley situation (lol). I think you might be overestimating the depth that people look into other’s backgrounds. If Wiley continues to progress, the HU mess will only be known by extreme running geeks like us. Sure, her coaches F’d up bigtime, but she seems to have forgiven them. The rest of the accusations at this point are just that. If her coaches help her continue towards her dreams, then she’ll stay with them. If she begins to stall, she’ll move on - just like every other elite athlete. She does seem to be very loyal, though. Imo, AW has gotten the raw deal with the people (running geeks) like us.. all making assumptions when they have no idea of what really transpired. It’s fun for the holy rollers to condemn without knowing - some things never change! Lol