He looked good to me. The finishing kick is something he needs to work on.
You remember, all those who wrote that Jakob needed to work on his finishing kick. He never did. He worked on other things. His stamina in the last part of the race. His strategy is too wear the others totally out. And then he got arrogant and lost to Jake W. He swear that it will never happen again. But it might still happen. Such is life and such is running.
Not his fault that he was wildly overhyped as having a chance to win. 2nd place and a PB is a good effort but given that was his quickest ever time I don’t understand why anyone thought he could beat Jakob.
Those times are historic times! We can´t judge upon past performances.
Josh Kerr is far behind Nuguse this year both in the mile/ 1500m and in the 3000m.
Wightman: Does anyone know what is going on? He has only run a mediocre 7:55 in the 3000m in January.
Mcsweyn: He too has only run a mediocre 3000m. His last race was a DNF in the Doha 3000m less than a month ago.
You can add 3:28 Katir and 3:29 Kipsang which runners Nuguse has beaten convincingly this year.
Great logic, works especially good early in the season. Is the current world leading time "a historic time"? What about all the other times that are bettering Nuguses time this year? Do they count?
Don´t you know that Nuguse ran a fast indoor mile (equal to a 3:30.50 1500m) which is slightly better than Jakob´s 1500m indoor WR?
He was close to Jakob in a race where the field didn´t follow the pacemakers and where there reportedly was wind in the last turn/ home straight. Listen to Jakob post race explanation about why he changed his tactics!
Exactly! No one, including Jakob, went with the pacemakers.
So when Nuguse set PB in such a "slow" race he should be satisfied. He has shown he is in the very top at the world. I will say he is no 2 after Jakob. He has beaten most of the top milers apart from the 2 Cheruiyots.
But we will be wiser after DL Bislett where Tim reportedly participates. I think Jakob will try to run fast in front of his home crowd. My guess is that Jakob will beat Tim convincingly in Oslo.
I wasn´t aware that Nuguse also runs in Oslo. I predict that Jakob will win before Nuguse so that Tim at best will be third.
Actually, I would not underestimate Neil Gourley. Though, if the weather permits it, it will be a very fast race. Jakob knows what he got to do before his home crowd. We will see what Nuguse is made of in a sub 3.3o-race, perhaps a second or two faster.
Not his fault that he was wildly overhyped as having a chance to win. 2nd place and a PB is a good effort but given that was his quickest ever time I don’t understand why anyone thought he could beat Jakob.
People love to see a champion go down or the seemingly unbeatable get defeated. I'm very much enjoying the Jakob era but even I was rooting for Timothy when Gjert said he'd never beat him again.
To me the Nuguse hype on here is kind of like when Conor McGregor faced Mayweather. It was an unknown quantity and people liked the 'unexpected' element of this relatively untested person potentially throwing something completely off the wall at this seasoned champ. But then reality hits...the good thing for Nuguse is that although Jakob defeated him with ease, Goose certainly trounced the rest of the field. The other very interesting element is that Jakob is younger than all of the people vying for his crown.
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Great logic, works especially good early in the season. Is the current world leading time "a historic time"? What about all the other times that are bettering Nuguses time this year? Do they count?
Don´t you know that Nuguse ran a fast indoor mile (equal to a 3:30.50 1500m) which is slightly better than Jakob´s 1500m indoor WR?
He was close to Jakob in a race where the field didn´t follow the pacemakers and where there reportedly was wind in the last turn/ home straight. Listen to Jakob post race explanation about why he changed his tactics!
Lets talk again after Oslo!
I recommend not worrying about indoor performances. Some middle distance athletes take indoors seriously, cutting back on mileage and doing quality workouts. Other athletes train through indoors.
Eg. Athlete A logs 115 road mileage during the winter plus one 6 x 1 mile workout on the road at 10000m race pace once a week and every other week either a 60 meter hill workout or a 300m hill workout.
Athlete B cuts mileage back to 45 road miles during winter indoor racing season with 3 or 4 track workouts per week, including 12 x 200m at 600m race pace.
If both athletes race 3:30 1500m indoors, you cannot say they are equal athletes.
You are adressing the wrong poster! It is me who argued that McSweyn (and Kerr and Wightman) have shown nothing yet this year (indoor or outdoor).
Yes, I clicked on the wrong post. Apologies.
To kilty, McSweyn is not a more dangerous medal threat than Yared. But yes, he can’t currently be considered the favorite for silver.
You'll need to apologise again I'm afraid; I didn't say McSweyn was a more dangerous medal threat, I simply included him in a short list of world class 1500m athletes that Nuguse hasn't beat in a race yet.
Not his fault that he was wildly overhyped as having a chance to win. 2nd place and a PB is a good effort but given that was his quickest ever time I don’t understand why anyone thought he could beat Jakob.
People love to see a champion go down or the seemingly unbeatable get defeated. I'm very much enjoying the Jakob era but even I was rooting for Timothy when Gjert said he'd never beat him again.
To me the Nuguse hype on here is kind of like when Conor McGregor faced Mayweather. It was an unknown quantity and people liked the 'unexpected' element of this relatively untested person potentially throwing something completely off the wall at this seasoned champ. But then reality hits...the good thing for Nuguse is that although Jakob defeated him with ease, Goose certainly trounced the rest of the field. The other very interesting element is that Jakob is younger than all of the people vying for his crown.
Hype makes the sport fun. For Yared, the hype was fairly reasonable in light of his results and obvious talent, if maybe a touch too much.
Do you remember the Walmsley USA marathon trials hype? That was my favorite “unknown quantity” hype in running that landed with a thud.
Of course, then there was just the Hassan marathon hype. It wasn’t reasonable to think she’d debut in a marathon major like London, and win, but she did!!!!
In retrospect it was far crazier to think Hassan would win the London marathon than to think Yared would beat Jakob…..
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McSweyn was fun to watch in 2021. I hope he gets back to where he was, but right now he is not a proven medal threat. He doesn't have the closing speed for it, though if he returned to his top level, he could medal in a very fast race.
Americans here went really over the top with the Nguse hype.
Great run from Inge, he definitely had a lot more in the tank.
Solid run from Hoare.
Kipsang struggling under the new conditions in Kenya, as with Korir.
This guy is the most insecure racist I’ve ever seen, literally won’t give Yared his respect because his an East African. If Yared was British born Caucasian he’d be kissing his A#%
He looked good to me. The finishing kick is something he needs to work on.
You remember, all those who wrote that Jakob needed to work on his finishing kick. He never did. He worked on other things. His stamina in the last part of the race. His strategy is too wear the others totally out. And then he got arrogant and lost to Jake W. He swear that it will never happen again. But it might still happen. Such is life and such is running.
It's almost like he doesn't read these boards for training advice.
2nd, .4 s back means no chance to win, in your world.
Ingebritsen looked very comfortable and like he had more gears to push through had the need arisen. At no point in the last 100 metres did the gap really narrow at all.
Americans here went really over the top with the Nguse hype.
Great run from Inge, he definitely had a lot more in the tank.
Solid run from Hoare.
Kipsang struggling under the new conditions in Kenya, as with Korir.
This guy is the most insecure racist I’ve ever seen, literally won’t give Yared his respect because his an East African. If Yared was British born Caucasian he’d be kissing his A#%
And your type is the most vile racist there is. Putting down Jakob from the beginning just because he's white while he was beating up everyone in sight. You just can't stand it. It's just like in the NBA where a whole slew of left wing nuts put down the best basketball player -Jokic and it's working in conjunction with this whole built in left wing loonie system in which a white guy can do no right. And at the same time propping up lesser colored players. You want Nuguse to beat Jakob so badly but you're getting your dose of much needed reality
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