The list keeps growing. Another example of the extent of Kenyan doping. You think they've caught them all now?
Your country had 1/3 of its elite male distance runners suspended for doping. You think they've caught them all now?
I knew you were dumb but this is spectacular. NZ has had no runners busted in that country; the only two in the country's history who were busted were in foreign countries and one of them lived and trained in Kenya. Kenya has 2 athletes busted every month.
Since it is known that the actual numbers of dopers is far larger than those caught the true number of Kenyan dopers will be many more than those busted. Even the latter list is a disgrace to the sport. There is nothing more nauseating here than those who seek to minimize or deny the extent of Kenyan doping.
Actually, there is something more nauseating here. Your presence.
Liars and doping deniers caught out typically feel that way.
Since it is known that the actual numbers of dopers is far larger than those caught the true number of Kenyan dopers will be many more than those busted. Even the latter list is a disgrace to the sport. There is nothing more nauseating here than those who seek to minimize or deny the extent of Kenyan doping.
Since it is known that the actual numbers of dopers is far larger than those caught the true number of New Zealand dopers will be many more than those busted. Even the latter list is a disgrace to the sport. There is nothing more nauseating here than those who seek to minimize or deny the extent of New Zealand doping.
Thick beyond belief. 2 NZ distance runners in their entire history against 2 a month in Kenya.
Another example of ADAK doing its job and the anti-doping system working as designed.
A new headline for the masses, but not quite "another one". This looks like one of the athletes I already mentioned 1 week ago, who was provisionally suspended back on May 11, 2022, and is just now being sanctioned:
"In (2022), ADAK suspended these athletes: Samuel Lomoi, Agatha Jeruto, Esther Chesang Kakuri, Everlyne Syombua, Lydia Simiyu, Mathew Sawe, Alice Aprot, Vincent Kiplangat, Michael Saruni, Stellah Barsosio, Kumari Taki, Gloria Kite, Georgina Rono, Priscilla Tabunda"
Your country had 1/3 of its elite male distance runners suspended for doping. You think they've caught them all now?
I knew you were dumb but this is spectacular. NZ has had no runners busted in that country; the only two in the country's history who were busted were in foreign countries and one of them lived and trained in Kenya. Kenya has 2 athletes busted every month.
I knew you were dumb, I mean, you can't even find the names of Kenyan world record holders from the past, but this is spectacular.
1 - You have been proven wrong, Kenya does not have two athletes busted every month.
2 - If you had more than one braincell, you would understand that my post meant 1/3 of New Zealand's current elite male distance runners have been suspended for doping. You are really grasping at straws claiming that Zane was not caught in NZ, so it doesn't count.
Since it is known that the actual numbers of dopers is far larger than those caught the true number of New Zealand dopers will be many more than those busted. Even the latter list is a disgrace to the sport. There is nothing more nauseating here than those who seek to minimize or deny the extent of New Zealand doping.
Thick beyond belief. 2 NZ distance runners in their entire history against 2 a month in Kenya.
You really have trouble with numbers. Not 2 a week in Kenya (see, you are the liar), and 1/3 of current male elite distance runners caught this year. That would have been hundreds of Kenyans caught this year if we take into account the number of elite athletes in each country. But again, you can't do numbers...
I knew you were dumb but this is spectacular. NZ has had no runners busted in that country; the only two in the country's history who were busted were in foreign countries and one of them lived and trained in Kenya. Kenya has 2 athletes busted every month.
I knew you were dumb, I mean, you can't even find the names of Kenyan world record holders from the past, but this is spectacular.
1 - You have been proven wrong, Kenya does not have two athletes busted every month.
2 - If you had more than one braincell, you would understand that my post meant 1/3 of New Zealand's current elite male distance runners have been suspended for doping. You are really grasping at straws claiming that Zane was not caught in NZ, so it doesn't count.
And if a country has only one distance runner who is then busted a "100% of their distance runners were doping", which in your view makes them worse than Kenya, which has runners popped on a monthly basis. Brain dead.
This post was edited 6 minutes after it was posted.
Thick beyond belief. 2 NZ distance runners in their entire history against 2 a month in Kenya.
You really have trouble with numbers. Not 2 a week in Kenya (see, you are the liar), and 1/3 of current male elite distance runners caught this year. That would have been hundreds of Kenyans caught this year if we take into account the number of elite athletes in each country. But again, you can't do numbers...
Tell me again how much worse NZ's doping record - 2 runners in its entire history - is than Kenya's. What did Lord Coe say - "40% of total doping positives" for last year?
The list keeps growing. Another example of the extent of Kenyan doping. You think they've caught them all now?
I don't think they've caught all the dopers in any country yet.
I think your focus in individual examples is why you are so misguided.
My focus isn't on individuals, it is on a country, which is currently leading the world for doping positives. But if they haven't caught all the dopers in any country they certainly have their work cut out catching all the dopers in Kenya. The Kenyan disease.
I don't think they've caught all the dopers in any country yet.
I think your focus in individual examples is why you are so misguided.
My focus isn't on individuals, it is on a country, which is currently leading the world for doping positives. But if they haven't caught all the dopers in any country they certainly have their work cut out catching all the dopers in Kenya. The Kenyan disease.
Really? It seemed like you were counting individual examples in order to assess "the extent of Kenyan doping".
Is Kenya currently leading the world? According to the AIU, there are only two Kenyans sanctioned so far in 2023, tied with Spain, Albania and Iraq, while Russia has eight.
If it is not your focus on individuals, why are you, as Coe put it, so misguided?
My focus isn't on individuals, it is on a country, which is currently leading the world for doping positives. But if they haven't caught all the dopers in any country they certainly have their work cut out catching all the dopers in Kenya. The Kenyan disease.
Really? It seemed like you were counting individual examples in order to assess "the extent of Kenyan doping".
Is Kenya currently leading the world? According to the AIU, there are only two Kenyans sanctioned so far in 2023, tied with Spain, Albania and Iraq, while Russia has eight.
If it is not your focus on individuals, why are you, as Coe put it, so misguided?
It's simply ludicrous how you keep down-playing their doping. You think they've suddenly stopped after leading the world last year (40% of positives, according to Coe) and with currently over 40 serving suspensions? In the midst of yet another doping thread yet another Kenyan is sanctioned. It was also Coe who indicated the extent of Kenyan doping last year and said they have a lot to do to "clean up their sport". There is only one thing more predictable than Kenyan doping and that is your attempts to minimize it.
Really? It seemed like you were counting individual examples in order to assess "the extent of Kenyan doping".
Is Kenya currently leading the world? According to the AIU, there are only two Kenyans sanctioned so far in 2023, tied with Spain, Albania and Iraq, while Russia has eight.
If it is not your focus on individuals, why are you, as Coe put it, so misguided?
It's simply ludicrous how you keep down-playing their doping. You think they've suddenly stopped after leading the world last year (40% of positives, according to Coe) and with currently over 40 serving suspensions? In the midst of yet another doping thread yet another Kenyan is sanctioned. It was also Coe who indicated the extent of Kenyan doping last year and said they have a lot to do to "clean up their sport". There is only one thing more predictable than Kenyan doping and that is your attempts to minimize it.
To say that NZ is worse or aligned with Kenya due to 1 positive is ridicolous, even if thats 1/3 of their pros.
Everyone with eyes can see that Kenya has a problem (other countries do too but Kenya rules distance running and seems to have more positives than other countries).
Really? It seemed like you were counting individual examples in order to assess "the extent of Kenyan doping".
Is Kenya currently leading the world? According to the AIU, there are only two Kenyans sanctioned so far in 2023, tied with Spain, Albania and Iraq, while Russia has eight.
If it is not your focus on individuals, why are you, as Coe put it, so misguided?
It's simply ludicrous how you keep down-playing their doping. You think they've suddenly stopped after leading the world last year (40% of positives, according to Coe) and with currently over 40 serving suspensions? In the midst of yet another doping thread yet another Kenyan is sanctioned. It was also Coe who indicated the extent of Kenyan doping last year and said they have a lot to do to "clean up their sport". There is only one thing more predictable than Kenyan doping and that is your attempts to minimize it.
Or maybe you are the ludicrous one not understanding numbers.
I'm still waiting for WADA to confirm Coe's 40% means what you want to believe it does.
Until then, it's not clear that Kenya has ever surpassed Russia.
It's simply ludicrous how you keep down-playing their doping. You think they've suddenly stopped after leading the world last year (40% of positives, according to Coe) and with currently over 40 serving suspensions? In the midst of yet another doping thread yet another Kenyan is sanctioned. It was also Coe who indicated the extent of Kenyan doping last year and said they have a lot to do to "clean up their sport". There is only one thing more predictable than Kenyan doping and that is your attempts to minimize it.
Or maybe you are the ludicrous one not understanding numbers.
I'm still waiting for WADA to confirm Coe's 40% means what you want to believe it does.
Until then, it's not clear that Kenya has ever surpassed Russia.
Russia has been banned. It isn't participating in international running. Stupid and irrelevant comparison. Kenya is leading the rest of the world for doping in running, as Lord Coe's comments make clear. No other country has achieved "40% of total doping positives" over 2022.
Or maybe you are the ludicrous one not understanding numbers.
I'm still waiting for WADA to confirm Coe's 40% means what you want to believe it does.
Until then, it's not clear that Kenya has ever surpassed Russia.
Russia has been banned. It isn't participating in international running. Stupid and irrelevant comparison. Kenya is leading the rest of the world for doping in running, as Lord Coe's comments make clear. No other country has achieved "40% of total doping positives" over 2022.
You said Kenya was "leading the world" -- that makes the whole world relevant.
As you should already know by know, Lord Coe only has a limited view of anti-doping positives, as the AIU only conducts about 15% of athletics testing.
You will also have to update your info as Coe told us "The (World Athletics) Council agreed to the reinstatement of the Russian Federation (RusAF) following seven years of suspension ...".
Russia has been banned. It isn't participating in international running. Stupid and irrelevant comparison. Kenya is leading the rest of the world for doping in running, as Lord Coe's comments make clear. No other country has achieved "40% of total doping positives" over 2022.
You said Kenya was "leading the world" -- that makes the whole world relevant.
As you should already know by know, Lord Coe only has a limited view of anti-doping positives, as the AIU only conducts about 15% of athletics testing.
You will also have to update your info as Coe told us "The (World Athletics) Council agreed to the reinstatement of the Russian Federation (RusAF) following seven years of suspension ...".
Jeezus, slimeball - the "whole world" is only those countries able to compete. That the only exception you can make is of the only country so far banned from international competition shows how desperate your arguments are. But once again, it is your way of lying to try to shore up your false arguments.
You said Kenya was "leading the world" -- that makes the whole world relevant.
As you should already know by know, Lord Coe only has a limited view of anti-doping positives, as the AIU only conducts about 15% of athletics testing.
You will also have to update your info as Coe told us "The (World Athletics) Council agreed to the reinstatement of the Russian Federation (RusAF) following seven years of suspension ...".
Jeezus, slimeball - the "whole world" is only those countries able to compete. That the only exception you can make is of the only country so far banned from international competition shows how desperate your arguments are. But once again, it is your way of lying to try to shore up your false arguments.
Jeezus, ignoramus. You cannot make "true arguments" without true data, free of selection bias.
Russian athletes still need to be tested regardless of whether they are competing.
Coe can only speak for World Athletics/AIU testing, which comprises about 15% of "the world". The AIU is very open that their intelligence based testing strategy (see Rule 15) is skewed towards high performing countries, and meant to complement the testing of NADOs. It will not be a representative sample of "the world" of athletes.
Attempting to draw "world" conclusions from this admittedly skewed ~15% of results suffers from "selection bias" -- a common logical fallacy.
Note that WADA will publish more complete testing data from 2022 including data from NADOs and RADOs when they are able to compile and verify the correctness of all the data -- something Coe did not do in a late November 2022 press briefing as he presented a percentage without data or context.
Note also that although WADA's data will be more complete and more representative than the AIU's data, this will still be selection biased, as the goal of anti-doping is still to prioritize anti-doping for the high performers -- the low performing dopers will be under-represented in both the AIU's and WADA's data, but that hardly matters if they are not fast enough to be cheating clean athletes out of places and prize money.
Jeezus, slimeball - the "whole world" is only those countries able to compete. That the only exception you can make is of the only country so far banned from international competition shows how desperate your arguments are. But once again, it is your way of lying to try to shore up your false arguments.
Jeezus, ignoramus. You cannot make "true arguments" without true data, free of selection bias.
Russian athletes still need to be tested regardless of whether they are competing.
Coe can only speak for World Athletics/AIU testing, which comprises about 15% of "the world". The AIU is very open that their intelligence based testing strategy (see Rule 15) is skewed towards high performing countries, and meant to complement the testing of NADOs. It will not be a representative sample of "the world" of athletes.
Attempting to draw "world" conclusions from this admittedly skewed ~15% of results suffers from "selection bias" -- a common logical fallacy.
Note that WADA will publish more complete testing data from 2022 including data from NADOs and RADOs when they are able to compile and verify the correctness of all the data -- something Coe did not do in a late November 2022 press briefing as he presented a percentage without data or context.
Note also that although WADA's data will be more complete and more representative than the AIU's data, this will still be selection biased, as the goal of anti-doping is still to prioritize anti-doping for the high performers -- the low performing dopers will be under-represented in both the AIU's and WADA's data, but that hardly matters if they are not fast enough to be cheating clean athletes out of places and prize money.
Ok, ph**wit, if you still insist that Russian athletes must be counted because they are tested and yet Kenyans account for 40% of positives the Russians do not match that. If they did it would leave the entire rest of the world on less than 20%. They aren't. It also makes Kenyan doping look even worse. You are unbelievably thick. It makes Coe's claim absurd. There was no nation identified by WA as incurring more positives in running than Kenya in 2022.
Help us build the best running shoe review site for a chance to win a LetsRun t-shirt.Help us build the best running shoe review site for a chance to win one of 10 LetsRun t-shirts.