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3 years ago 03/08/2023 12:02pm EST

re: Newname

Newname wrote:
Video:www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKIBRG56gL0
Masks did nothing.
Per the data

It is amazing how biased the reporting is.

But what amazes me more is how slanted the selection of studies that the CDC selects to inform their mask recommendations is. Unfortunately, it makes it hard to believe anything they say. When the pandemic began, I literally read every single word related to Covid on their website and followed ALL of it. I washed my hands until my knuckles bled in an effort to comply with their recommendations for frequency. (If you have small children, they basically recommended you wash your hands a few hundred times a day.) Now, I see the absurdity, but the governments of Washington, Oregon and California impose CDC "recommendations" as law.

3 years ago 03/08/2023 2:15pm EST

re: ingeneralingeneral

ingeneralingeneral wrote:
sheeplewatch wrote:
No shirts, no shoes, no service. It's 2023, a business can impose any rules they wish as long as they are not discriminating. It's your choice to do business with them or not. They are not destroying any of your rights.
I was a republican for almost 30 years. I'm not a democrat now. I no longer affiliate with any party due this type of behavior. By that I mean the right calling the left sheeple while being by far more sheeple like that the left. By calling the left "woke" but acting far more "woke" that the left (and my simple definition of woke being having your mind opened to some "truth" you now percieve). The destruction of the conservative mind has been brutal over the past 10-20 years.
Just to show my balance - I'll call out the left for complaining about hate on the right using hateful language. Urban tech elites screaming for equality while bringing in 300k+ a year.
I could go on. The point is - read both side, develop your own opinion. Don't be - you know that dump term the right likes to throw out - sheep.
It's quite rare for private businesses to mandate masks. The overwhelming majority of mask mandates were government imposed. Ask the kids who went to school in masks for over a year after spending a year at home to protect the elderly.
I have NEVER seen a private business mandate masks in the absence of a government mandates. I know they exist, but they are so rare as to be inconsequential. But the government mandate on all businesses on the west coast lasts two solid years, the school mandate even longer. This is not OK.
On the west coast, you must STILL wear a mask in medical settings, at prisons, and at nursing homes. Want to visit grandma? She hasn't seen your face in nearly three years, and she's not going to see it today. Try taking your 2- or 3-year-old to the doctor. You'll spend way more time trying to get her to keep her mask on than you will discussing her health with the doctor. Got to start indoctrinating them young. Want to try on eye-glasses? Better bring your mask. Need one at the orthodontist too! Except of course when he's practically putting his head in your mouth to get a look at those back teeth. But don't worry, the government are keeping you safe.

I gotcha on this. OSU and Columbus still require masks in medical centers. It may be the CDC law though, not anything locally.

3 years ago 03/08/2023 3:31pm EST

re: Newname

Newname wrote:
Free thought wrote:
There are no ‘free thinkers’ here, just different types of responses to different influences.
No such thing as an independent thinker? All just Pavlovian dogs? I don't buy it. Some 20th century nonsense

you have a knee-jerk reaction to anything regarding masks and the vax. It's the same reaction. Most people you mock have a nuanced well thought out position that takes context, time and personal experience into account.

You just whine about everything all the time. That is NOT independent thinking. that is dependent thinking.

3 years ago 03/08/2023 3:32pm EST

This quoted post has been removed.

the troll act is so tiresome.

3 years ago 03/08/2023 3:59pm EST

re: jecht

jecht wrote:
EvilRunner wrote:
masks aside who the hell would line up to have a pic with her. damn that’s cringy
Des seems friendly and relatable otherwise, plus I've read/heard she's warm and approachable with fans and running nerds. LOL

Listening to the Nobody Asked Us podcast is completely worth it just to hear Des Linden's take on things. She's insightful, direct, and experienced. Great combo.

3 years ago 03/08/2023 4:02pm EST

re: ingeneralingeneral

ingeneralingeneral wrote:
sheeplewatch wrote:
No shirts, no shoes, no service. It's 2023, a business can impose any rules they wish as long as they are not discriminating. It's your choice to do business with them or not. They are not destroying any of your rights.
I was a republican for almost 30 years. I'm not a democrat now. I no longer affiliate with any party due this type of behavior. By that I mean the right calling the left sheeple while being by far more sheeple like that the left. By calling the left "woke" but acting far more "woke" that the left (and my simple definition of woke being having your mind opened to some "truth" you now percieve). The destruction of the conservative mind has been brutal over the past 10-20 years.
Just to show my balance - I'll call out the left for complaining about hate on the right using hateful language. Urban tech elites screaming for equality while bringing in 300k+ a year.
I could go on. The point is - read both side, develop your own opinion. Don't be - you know that dump term the right likes to throw out - sheep.
On the west coast, you must STILL wear a mask in medical settings, at prisons, and at nursing homes. Want to visit grandma? She hasn't seen your face in nearly three years, and she's not going to see it today. Try taking your 2- or 3-year-old to the doctor. You'll spend way more time trying to get her to keep her mask on than you will discussing her health with the doctor. Got to start indoctrinating them young. Want to try on eye-glasses? Better bring your mask. Need one at the orthodontist too! Except of course when he's practically putting his head in your mouth to get a look at those back teeth. But don't worry, the government are keeping you safe.

In Oregon and Washington, at least, the medical mask mandate ends on April 3. You think masks in medical settings are dumb, even today? Either you're a blowhard or you don't live with someone involved in direct patient care.

3 years ago 03/08/2023 4:04pm EST

re: this guy 3

this guy 3 wrote:
This quoted post has been removed.
the troll act is so tiresome.

I'm a registered user, not afraid to give my actual thoughts on things. You used an anonymous name and added nothing but an insult to the conversation. So who's the troll here???

3 years ago 03/08/2023 4:12pm EST

re: Makes Paper

Makes Paper wrote:
ingeneralingeneral wrote:
On the west coast, you must STILL wear a mask in medical settings, at prisons, and at nursing homes. Want to visit grandma? She hasn't seen your face in nearly three years, and she's not going to see it today. Try taking your 2- or 3-year-old to the doctor. You'll spend way more time trying to get her to keep her mask on than you will discussing her health with the doctor. Got to start indoctrinating them young. Want to try on eye-glasses? Better bring your mask. Need one at the orthodontist too! Except of course when he's practically putting his head in your mouth to get a look at those back teeth. But don't worry, the government are keeping you safe.
In Oregon and Washington, at least, the medical mask mandate ends on April 3. You think masks in medical settings are dumb, even today? Either you're a blowhard or you don't live with someone involved in direct patient care.

I think state-mandated mask mandates in "medical settings" are dumb. I think the management of individual "medical" establishments can figure out whether masks are necessary in certain settings . . . or not. In some places, it's just obviously silly, like needing to where a mask to try on eyeglasses or sit in the orthodontist waiting room or a well child visit for a 2-year-old in a pediatrician's office that only sees healthy kids. In other places, it's a value judgment based on the drawbacks of, say, requiring someone being treated long-term in a hospital being deprived of the sight of human faces for months or weeks versus the possible reduced risk to their health. The hospital or the patient should make that call, not the governor. Given recent research published in the Lancet, I'm extreme skeptical that any non-N95 mask worn tightly has a significant impact. Does an N95 test that's been fit-tested work? Yup. How many people are wearing fit-tested N95 masks to their orthodontist appointments or two-year-old well checks? Absolutely zilch.

Yes, it's ending in April. About fing time. Two years overdue.

3 years ago 03/08/2023 4:15pm EST

re: jecht

jecht wrote:
ingeneralingeneral wrote:
It's quite rare for private businesses to mandate masks. The overwhelming majority of mask mandates were government imposed. Ask the kids who went to school in masks for over a year after spending a year at home to protect the elderly.
I have NEVER seen a private business mandate masks in the absence of a government mandates. I know they exist, but they are so rare as to be inconsequential. But the government mandate on all businesses on the west coast lasts two solid years, the school mandate even longer. This is not OK.
On the west coast, you must STILL wear a mask in medical settings, at prisons, and at nursing homes. Want to visit grandma? She hasn't seen your face in nearly three years, and she's not going to see it today. Try taking your 2- or 3-year-old to the doctor. You'll spend way more time trying to get her to keep her mask on than you will discussing her health with the doctor. Got to start indoctrinating them young. Want to try on eye-glasses? Better bring your mask. Need one at the orthodontist too! Except of course when he's practically putting his head in your mouth to get a look at those back teeth. But don't worry, the government are keeping you safe.
I gotcha on this. OSU and Columbus still require masks in medical centers. It may be the CDC law though, not anything locally.

I don't have a problem with individual hospitals requiring masks. That's a judgment call based on a number of factors. I think it probably makes sense in some parts of hospitals and not in others. I have a serious problem with the Ohio governor requiring masks in all so-called "medical" settings like Lenscrafters. Which, he/she is in fact not doing - only those of us stuck in the west coast liberal utopias are still getting subjected to this performative nonsense.

3 years ago 03/08/2023 4:19pm EST

re: Safety Theater Connoisseur

Safety Theater Connoisseur wrote:
yes, it’s 2023 and masks are still required in blue cities
Link:www.harvard.com/event/des_linden_at_ol...

It would be epic to dress up as ghostface and run a thon

3 years ago 03/08/2023 5:38pm EST

re: Newname

Newname wrote:
it is time wrote:
If the choice is go to the event or not go to the event, I'm not going to cower in my basement and complain online. I'm going to go outside and get an actual experience. The masks have no impact on how I enjoy the situation.
So going along with a ridiculous requirement makes you brave?

I didn't say that made me brave. You're putting words in my mouth. I just said what I'm not going to do. Ridiculous requirement or not, it's just not a big deal to me. I'm not going to get upset about something as little as that.

3 years ago 03/08/2023 5:42pm EST

re: ingeneralingeneral

ingeneralingeneral wrote:
Newname wrote:
Video:www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKIBRG56gL0
Masks did nothing.
Per the data
It is amazing how biased the reporting is.
But what amazes me more is how slanted the selection of studies that the CDC selects to inform their mask recommendations is. Unfortunately, it makes it hard to believe anything they say. When the pandemic began, I literally read every single word related to Covid on their website and followed ALL of it. I washed my hands until my knuckles bled in an effort to comply with their recommendations for frequency. (If you have small children, they basically recommended you wash your hands a few hundred times a day.) Now, I see the absurdity, but the governments of Washington, Oregon and California impose CDC "recommendations" as law.

I didn't buy the narrative from the start.

I have seen many fear mongering campaigns in my time and this was the most over the top one I had seen.

When they are fear mongering you know two things:

1. They are being dishonest.

2. They are looking out for their interests, not ours

3 years ago 03/08/2023 5:44pm EST

re: it is time

it is time wrote:
Newname wrote:
So going along with a ridiculous requirement makes you brave?
I didn't say that made me brave. You're putting words in my mouth. I just said what I'm not going to do. Ridiculous requirement or not, it's just not a big deal to me. I'm not going to get upset about something as little as that.

Sure you did. You characterize those of us who refuse to comply to mask mandates as cowering in our basements.'

But not you. You will put on a mask and bravely attend.

3 years ago 03/08/2023 6:32pm EST

re: sheeplewatch

sheeplewatch wrote:
No shirts, no shoes, no service. It's 2023, a business can impose any rules they wish as long as they are not discriminating. It's your choice to do business with them or not. They are not destroying any of your rights.
I was a republican for almost 30 years. I'm not a democrat now. I no longer affiliate with any party due this type of behavior. By that I mean the right calling the left sheeple while being by far more sheeple like that the left. By calling the left "woke" but acting far more "woke" that the left (and my simple definition of woke being having your mind opened to some "truth" you now percieve). The destruction of the conservative mind has been brutal over the past 10-20 years.
Just to show my balance - I'll call out the left for complaining about hate on the right using hateful language. Urban tech elites screaming for equality while bringing in 300k+ a year.
I could go on. The point is - read both side, develop your own opinion. Don't be - you know that dump term the right likes to throw out - sheep.

Please stay a liberal (you are one for sure). Your post is filled with more lies and more BS than posts by liberals on the Biden thread. Conservatives aren't racists, that's the media and your sheep-like mind following the WOKE rules for 2023. Don't kid yourself, you are a racist.

3 years ago 03/08/2023 6:33pm EST

re: Newname

Hey -- Fine to skip masks in general, but if you are a running on Monday, having trained for months for this event, no need to get infected with what is still a nasty cold at best on Saturday. Des is going to get breathed on by several hundred people. Good idea to lower the odds for her as well as for those standing in lines.

3 years ago 03/08/2023 6:36pm EST

re: ingeneralingeneral

Authoritarian jab mandates are not moderate at all.

3 years ago 03/08/2023 6:38pm EST

re: ingeneralingeneral

Mike DeWine is a complete RINO. Only Hogan and Phil Scott are (were) worse.

Abbott and DeSantis are the only "big state" Republican governors who protected freedom during the pandemic.

3 years ago 03/09/2023 9:40am EST

re: Safety Theater Connoisseur

It looks like these are the rules of the venue (not the city, not Des personally). In that sense it’s basically like a weird dress code.

3 years ago 03/09/2023 10:31am EST

re: streaklt

streaklt wrote:
America is funny wrote:
Gonna take a guess that your favorite political hosts are Ben Shapiro and Tucker Carlson.
I just don’t see the point of acting like a Karen/Ken about something as trivial as a mask. If that’s the biggest complaint you have then you have never experienced an inconvenience before. If you don’t want to do something just stfu and keep it moving you don’t have to remind everyone that you won’t be brainwashed and your tinfoil hat will protect you from the 5G COVID waves.
nope I don't care for any 'political hosts'. I like to look at the world and what makes sense and think for myself. It seems like it really bothers you when people do that instead of quietly obeying stupid nonsense like lemmings. Three years of stupid nonsense has wrecked so many facets of our society and caused so much pain and misery for so many people. I'd be ashamed if I played along with it.

Still just sounds like you can’t handle being told what to do. You don’t seem to play well with others. That’s okay. Why condemn those for wanting to stay safe? Did you have other alternatives? You do know people don’t like being sick regardless of what it is right?

There’s loads of things that have happened due to COVID that suck but thanks to your lord and savior Trump cutting budgets towards pandemic research and not having a plan for this whole thing we lost 2 years of our lives.

if you can sit here and respond to everything in the forum you definitely don’t leave the house and shouldn’t complain about masks. You’re a keyboard warrior who would crumble under pressure and comply the second they are confronted. Stop acting like a Ken for fake internet points that earn you nothing but an upvote.

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