runnerboy70 wrote:
Everyone involved is long gone/dead....Why punish people who have no connection to slavery? My people came recently from Europe and I don't believe in collective guilt...
REPENT FOR YOUR ANCESTORS SINS
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Rick Cheney wrote:
Whatever triggers conservatives at this point is ok with me
So things such as drunk driving, kids conceived casually out-of-wedlock, illegal immigration, needless school closures during pandemics....
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asadf wrote:
Rick Cheney wrote:
Whatever triggers conservatives at this point is ok with me
So things such as drunk driving, kids conceived casually out-of-wedlock, illegal immigration, needless school closures during pandemics....
Hell Yeah bro I’m center left as all hell. Like Stephen Colbert.
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Wounded Heart wrote:
Welfare wrote:
This is completely idiotic. I’m part Irish and Italian. Can I get reparations paid to myself?
You probably can, but you are way behind the Native Americans and blacks in terms of deservability. In my opinion, you are behind Hispanics and Asians as well. I mean gimme a break with the Italian bit. Where's your historical oppression in America? You fought against America in WWII, now you want reparations? How about you pay us first, then start asking about us paying you.
Pretty much every culture has been enslaved and had slaves in its history. The Irish have had slaves and been enslaved (in fact, St. Patrick was an English priest who was enslaved by the Irish). As for Italians, Ancient Rome was a hotbed of slavery. Heck, the word slave itself comes from my Slavic relatives, as they were conquered and enslaved by all kinds of empires through the years. Ever read the bible? Israelites were both enslaved and had slaves through their history. Native Americans were both slave owners and enslaved. Africans had slaves, sold people into slavery and there were even black American landowners who had slaves in America. The Chinese had slavery into the 20th century. The Japanese enslaved Chinese (ever heard of the Rape of Nanjing?), and a lot of the South Pacific in the years leading up to and during the second world war. Nobody's hands are clean and pretty much every people have been enslaved at some point.
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joedlrt wrote:
Wounded Heart wrote:
You probably can, but you are way behind the Native Americans and blacks in terms of deservability. In my opinion, you are behind Hispanics and Asians as well. I mean gimme a break with the Italian bit. Where's your historical oppression in America? You fought against America in WWII, now you want reparations? How about you pay us first, then start asking about us paying you.
Pretty much every culture has been enslaved and had slaves in its history. The Irish have had slaves and been enslaved (in fact, St. Patrick was an English priest who was enslaved by the Irish). As for Italians, Ancient Rome was a hotbed of slavery. Heck, the word slave itself comes from my Slavic relatives, as they were conquered and enslaved by all kinds of empires through the years. Ever read the bible? Israelites were both enslaved and had slaves through their history. Native Americans were both slave owners and enslaved. Africans had slaves, sold people into slavery and there were even black American landowners who had slaves in America. The Chinese had slavery into the 20th century. The Japanese enslaved Chinese (ever heard of the Rape of Nanjing?), and a lot of the South Pacific in the years leading up to and during the second world war. Nobody's hands are clean and pretty much every people have been enslaved at some point.
Not to be callous but the Irish kind of deserved it
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Less obvious wrote:
Real Obvi wrote:
This ^
The whole idea is nonsense. It is only in the news because it gets the dander up of Fox viewers.
Are you saying that Fox invented a story about Governor Newsom's advocacy for reparations? Or do you think that news agencies should not report such a movement endorsed by a governor of the most populous US state?
Wake me up when such reparations are paid.
Until then, it's a bunch of nonsense.
Zzzzzzzzzzzz
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Wounded Heart wrote:
Real Obvi wrote:
This ^
The whole idea is nonsense. It is only in the news because it gets the dander up of Fox viewers.
That's pretty silly and cynical of you. It's easy enough to Google, and see if media other than Fox is reporting this. Many outfits have done so (see below for examples).
This is very likely to happen in California by 2024. I hope Native Americans with attachments to California can do whatever is necessary legally and politically to get their share of this windfall trust fund, which should be more than half of it.
Newsweek:
New York Times:
Here is Newsom's own website:
Wake me up when such reparations are paid.
Until then, it's a bunch of nonsense.
Zzzzzzzzzzzz
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runnerboy70 wrote:
Everyone involved is long gone/dead....Why punish people who have no connection to slavery? My people came recently from Europe and I don't believe in collective guilt...
Is there a thread about black people that you haven't posted on?
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joedlrt wrote:
Wounded Heart wrote:
You probably can, but you are way behind the Native Americans and blacks in terms of deservability. In my opinion, you are behind Hispanics and Asians as well. I mean gimme a break with the Italian bit. Where's your historical oppression in America? You fought against America in WWII, now you want reparations? How about you pay us first, then start asking about us paying you.
Pretty much every culture has been enslaved and had slaves in its history. The Irish have had slaves and been enslaved (in fact, St. Patrick was an English priest who was enslaved by the Irish).
I am Irish. While our country was colonized and there are many horrors to speak of relating to that we were NOT slaves.
And St Patrick was NOT English, he was Welsh.
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Ciro wrote:
joedlrt wrote:
Pretty much every culture has been enslaved and had slaves in its history. The Irish have had slaves and been enslaved (in fact, St. Patrick was an English priest who was enslaved by the Irish).
I am Irish. While our country was colonized and there are many horrors to speak of relating to that we were NOT slaves.
And St Patrick was NOT English, he was Welsh.
The Vikings enslaved plenty of Irish through the years. St. Patrick was believed to have been born near modern day Ravenglass, which is north of Wales and south of Scotland in England.
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ufufigifig wrote:
Slavery was the norm throughout history. If the vast majority of us go back far enough will find slavery in our ancestry.
Some will be de facto slavery like feudalism but we all have it and it doesn't really matter if it was 200 years or 2,000 years.
It "ended" (sort of) less than 160 years ago.
This is far different than say a 2,000 year old land claims
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joedlrty wrote:
Ciro wrote:
I am Irish. While our country was colonized and there are many horrors to speak of relating to that we were NOT slaves.
And St Patrick was NOT English, he was Welsh.
The Vikings enslaved plenty of Irish through the years. St. Patrick was believed to have been born near modern day Ravenglass, which is north of Wales and south of Scotland in England.
The Vikings invaded Ireland in 795 and St Patrick died around 461.
Are you really comparing that with the form of slavery in the US that only ended about 160 years ago? But as others have said, you’re all getting bent out of shape about something that will not actually happen.
Again, St Patrick was according to the vast majority of scholars Welsh.
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This would be a wonderful opportunity to pause for a moment and give thanks for the great contributions of the Black community to our society. Their peaceful and generous nature make them ideal neighbors, lending testimony to their dedication to exceptional civic values, stable traditional families, parenting skills unrivaled by any other culture and their unflagging pride in maintaining exemplary clean, neat and orderly homes. Their commitment to academic excellence enriches our schools and serves as an example to all who hope to achieve prominence as a people. Property values are boosted and energized by the entry of African Americans into an area thanks to the caring and sincere respect they show for these communities, their absolute dedication to lives of law-abiding peaceful neighborliness, and the examples of all they have achieved through their enthusiasm for self-improvement by hard work and a self-reliant, can-do culture of integrity and honor. Without their industrious and creative drive, we would be poorer as a nation.
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Such bs is governmental crime in the works and violates principles discussed in the development of the constitution as subsequent generations should not be held responsible for the errors committed in the past. Plus not all "white" races are guilty of racism or slavery. To claim such nonsense is discrimination itself. It's total " oh, look at me, I'm a good guy. Vote for me " crap.
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as a registered dem wrote:
This would be a wonderful opportunity to pause for a moment and give thanks for the great contributions of the Black community to our society. Their peaceful and generous nature make them ideal neighbors, lending testimony to their dedication to exceptional civic values, stable traditional families, parenting skills unrivaled by any other culture and their unflagging pride in maintaining exemplary clean, neat and orderly homes. Their commitment to academic excellence enriches our schools and serves as an example to all who hope to achieve prominence as a people. Property values are boosted and energized by the entry of African Americans into an area thanks to the caring and sincere respect they show for these communities, their absolute dedication to lives of law-abiding peaceful neighborliness, and the examples of all they have achieved through their enthusiasm for self-improvement by hard work and a self-reliant, can-do culture of integrity and honor. Without their industrious and creative drive, we would be poorer as a nation.
Tell us she left you for a black guy without telling us she left you for a black guy.
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I didn't come up with this myself; I read it in the comment section (Fox) this morning.
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as a registered dem wrote:
I didn't come up with this myself; I read it in the comment section (Fox) this morning.
Could you provide a link to the article?
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It IS pretty funny...
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Pearl-clutcher bait. Predictable.
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as a registered dem wrote:
This would be a wonderful opportunity to pause for a moment and give thanks for the great contributions of the Black community to our society. Their peaceful and generous nature make them ideal neighbors, lending testimony to their dedication to exceptional civic values, stable traditional families, parenting skills unrivaled by any other culture and their unflagging pride in maintaining exemplary clean, neat and orderly homes. Their commitment to academic excellence enriches our schools and serves as an example to all who hope to achieve prominence as a people. Property values are boosted and energized by the entry of African Americans into an area thanks to the caring and sincere respect they show for these communities, their absolute dedication to lives of law-abiding peaceful neighborliness, and the examples of all they have achieved through their enthusiasm for self-improvement by hard work and a self-reliant, can-do culture of integrity and honor. Without their industrious and creative drive, we would be poorer as a nation.
You could have just said you don’t like black people.
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