Kenya's fate to be decided tomorrow. Will they be banned? Should they be?

Perfect description of Coevett’s belief that Europeans can run 3:28 clean but East Africans need drugs to break 3:35.

Yes obviously everyone who was breaking records before there was testing was clean. That's the standard.

Simply pointing out that the fact that 'Coe was fast' doesn't make him a blood doper.

The record books say that the Nigerian 1500m record is 3:50 or something. Obviously that's crazy and can't be right. Not when Kenyans run 3:26. There must have been hundreds of Nigerians who have ran faster than 3:50 and there has been a conspiracy by World Athletics to surpress the results every time one does so. Anybody who denies this is a crackpot racist.

What was the decision on the question of banning Kenya?

No ban. Meeting summary here:

worldathletics.org

Decisions made at World Athletics Council Meeting in Rome | PRESS-RELEASES | World Athletics

Open link

So Kipchoge will keep on doping.

More interesting is the last section, that reads very much as if there's going to be a further tightening of the DSD regulations and that the plans will be going out for consultation over the next few months.

im pretty sure coe and everyone else was blood doping back then,and snell never ran the equivelant of 1.41 on grass.he wasnt that good.

You're just a troll who tries to negate the seriousness of Russian/Kenyan/Ethiopian doping by pulling the claim out of your behind that everybody dopes and always has.

1:44.3 on grass is in the right ballpark with 1:41.7 on a synthetic track. Most of the discussions both here and elsewhere I've read claim that grass is at least 5 seconds slower per mile. It's only when discussing Snell's WR compared to Coe's that people come out of the woodwork claiming stuff like 'a well prepared grass track is barely slower than synthetic', because they don't want to believe that Snell ran as fast as Coe (because they like to believe that Coe was an 'obvious doper' and his time unreal, even though Cruz ran a near identical time only 3 years later).

A war is different. But ban all drug cheats nationally. I support the Russian drug ban. I support a Kenyan drug ban.

Nobody in the elite ranks is clean.

Prove me wrong.

It would be hard to because it's clear that everyone is hiding it.

And I can accuse because I don't even take a prescription drug.

So I've accused.

Ban sport.

Nigerian 1500m record is 3:42. Only to you that's "3:50 or something."

Snell is on record saying that a well-kept grass track is at least as fast a a cinder track.
And it's common knowledge that a cinder track is 0.5-1 second slower per lap for the 800m.
His 1:44.3 it at most in the right ballpark with 1:42.3-1:43.3

Not that you care about facts, of course.

I hope that will bring some constructive changes soon.

So basically they are allowed to carry on despite having 60-70 athletes banned in athletics alone. lol. Worth it.

I had to come out of hibernation for this.

Judging by the Lord's remarks, a blanket ban was never being considered in the first place. The panic was mostly fuelled by misinformed hysteria in the Kenyan media, and agencies like Reuters and AP ran with it. A ban wouldn't make sense because:

1. Ludicrous to ban a country for doing the right thing in catching dopers instead of protecting them (something that can't be said for most other countries)

2. The overwhelming consensus remains: doping by Kenyan athletes is not systemic, institutionalised or state-sponsored. It's a mostly a bunch of rogue road-runners many of whom will never get a chance to represent the country at major championships.

Of course a Lawrence Cherono or Jemima Sumgong will feature occasionally, but we were mildly amused to watch posters here and journalists alike pretend to have been longtime fans of such household names as Ibrahim Mukunga Wachira and Betty Wilson Lempus.

Kenya is now the most tested country in the world, but as long as it remains open to foreigners in a way that neighbours like Ethiopia, Uganda, Eritrea, South Sudan, Somalia and Burundi aren't, the problem will persist and emerging road runners will be susceptible to foreign vultures.

and obviously you are posting because it's over and you are sure now.

Spreading a lot of "speculations" about your country.

Coevett is such a pathetic specimen. Bitter middle aged man who hates blacks.

oh please! according to you,everyone dopes except the brits,which is just crap.Theyre just as likely to dope as anyone,and probably better at hiding it than most.Also the hman body has a ceiling.There is a cut off point,no matter how talented an athlete is.I dont believe even for a millisecond that 3.30 or under is achievable naturally,and i dont believe sub 1.44 is achievable naturally.yes,the russians,ethiopians and kenyans all dope,but so does everyone else.i will never change my mind.