Truman literally had that estimate of a million casualties--not stated whether U.S. or combined U.S. and Japanese--in his decision folder prior to dropping the bomb. Other reasons considered were to stop the rapid Soviet advance through Asia, to use to make the Soviets fear us, to try out the technology, etc.
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BTW, once the petrodollar ends, and the empire abroad ends, then the Democrats will have nobody to exploit but Americans, full Stalin/Mao time. That's why Biden was in front of the black background with red lighting and the military, threatening Americans with F-15 and nuclear weapons.
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Who is blame for the Ukraine situation. Well, can I suggest that the US's NATO empire building is the real problem. I also believe American foreign policy is designed to weaken the EU. For example, it could be argued that the UK exit from the EU was largely caused by the massive waves of middle-eastern/African refugees flooding into the EU, and, of course, American involvement in Afganistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, and now the Ukraine is the cause of those 10million refugees. And it should be noted that barely a handful of those refugees were taken in by the US.
You can suggest it. But it would make you seem like an idiot.
The fourth turning theory looks more solid everyday. The 80 year crisis period appears to be coming true again. Humanity is just as bad at learning the lessons of history today as it has always been.
The fourth turning theory looks more solid everyday. The 80 year crisis period appears to be coming true again. Humanity is just as bad at learning the lessons of history today as it has always been.
And yeah OP I recently blogged on here about how I'm legitimately terrified of nuclear war and while many commenters shared my sentiments, there were a lot of nihilists telling me to stop worrying and accept my fate. I know they were trying to be helpful but honestly that's insane to me. And I'm worried the cabal that runs this country thinks the same way. Some people said "you can't control it." I thought this was a "democracy" but I guess not. Sorry for rambling but I'm just really passionate about this.
What is your goal here? What do you hope to achieve by posting stuff like this here?
The entire planet vs Russia isn't a world war. China and India are both incredulous Russia keeps this foolish war going. All of central Asia opposes the war. Iran and N. Korea are willing to lend material support.
Russia is under tremendous economic and geopolitical pressure to not escalate.
The USA/NATO/EU is not the "the world." In fact it is a lot less the "the world" than Russia + China in territory and population. The only one feeling the pressue of economics is Germany and the EU, they're going down this winter, the USA and the petrodollar will be following. Everyone in the world, including Americans, are rooting for Russia against the regime that stole the 2020 election.
Another let'srun military expert. You guys, maybe a gal or two love to flex on this site.
This discussion started about WW2 and South Pacific because Joe Dirt was pretending to be a war hero by proximity. Joe Dirt wanted to flex because his two grandfathers served in WW2. That has zero to do with current conflict in Europe. You don't write like Joe Dirt so I don't think you're Joe Dirt. Why don't you and Joe Dirt get your heads together and start a WW2 thread. I have specific family stories I can share on a WW2 thread too.
Maybe if you or Joe Dirt start a WW2 thread, I may or may not continue to debate how WW2 ended.
Another let'srun military expert. You guys, maybe a gal or two love to flex on this site.
This discussion started about WW2 and South Pacific because Joe Dirt was pretending to be a war hero by proximity. Joe Dirt wanted to flex because his two grandfathers served in WW2. That has zero to do with current conflict in Europe. You don't write like Joe Dirt so I don't think you're Joe Dirt. Why don't you and Joe Dirt get your heads together and start a WW2 thread. I have specific family stories I can share on a WW2 thread too.
Maybe if you or Joe Dirt start a WW2 thread, I may or may not continue to debate how WW2 ended.
This reads almost like a terf trying to avoid pronouns lmao
Another let'srun military expert. You guys, maybe a gal or two love to flex on this site.
This discussion started about WW2 and South Pacific because Joe Dirt was pretending to be a war hero by proximity. Joe Dirt wanted to flex because his two grandfathers served in WW2. That has zero to do with current conflict in Europe. You don't write like Joe Dirt so I don't think you're Joe Dirt. Why don't you and Joe Dirt get your heads together and start a WW2 thread. I have specific family stories I can share on a WW2 thread too.
Maybe if you or Joe Dirt start a WW2 thread, I may or may not continue to debate how WW2 ended.
This reads almost like a terf trying to avoid pronouns lmao
And yeah OP I recently blogged on here about how I'm legitimately terrified of nuclear war and while many commenters shared my sentiments, there were a lot of nihilists telling me to stop worrying and accept my fate. I know they were trying to be helpful but honestly that's insane to me. And I'm worried the cabal that runs this country thinks the same way. Some people said "you can't control it." I thought this was a "democracy" but I guess not. Sorry for rambling but I'm just really passionate about this.
Both granddads were in WWII, one as a Navy corpsman who saw the worst of the battles in the South Pacific, the other as a cook who was in Hawaii awaiting orders to get shipped over to the invasion of the Japanese mainland that would have likely cost a million American lives when the Japanese surrendered. My father did his tours of duty during Vietnam as a translator with a TS clearance monitoring communications between the Vietcong and the North Koreans. If called to serve I would have, but at heart I am a pacifist based on the lessons I learned from my father and grandfather. I can remember distinctly when we went to war in Iraq how upset my grandfather was at the idea of sending young men to die in the desert for a cause that quite frankly he felt did not pose a significant threat to America. I hope that this Ukrainian conflict does not escalate into a larger, nuclear conflict, and that my daughters shall know lives of peace. Anyone who is gung ho about continued escalation in the war in Ukraine should take the time to read The Greatest Generation to understand how war shapes lives.
You're not the first to state if U.S. and allies would have fought Japan on Japanese mainland soil it would have been a million dead, I don't believe that number was forecasted. Actually, I don't believe anywhere near that number was forecasted but people like you say it. Again, you're not the only one to say it. Drop two nukes then politician(s) make a b.s. statement like a million dead forecast for justification.
Ike called the use of the A-bo,mb "barbaric and unnecessary." So there's that. Truman and Paul Fussell disagreed.
Truman literally had that estimate of a million casualties--not stated whether U.S. or combined U.S. and Japanese--in his decision folder prior to dropping the bomb. Other reasons considered were to stop the rapid Soviet advance through Asia, to use to make the Soviets fear us, to try out the technology, etc.
So Truman came up with a nice round million casualties and that excuses dropping nukes on two cities?
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