Just watched it on Youtube. Wow, that stadium was packed and the sound coming through the computer blew away anything from the WC in Eugene. They should have given that to Birmingham instead of Oregon based just on that clip.
The truth is that unconscious bias is a concept that's almost impossible to prove in any given situation. Identifying it involves Person A saying or doing something and Person B creating an explanation as to why A said or did what s/he did. This requires B to attribute a reason to A. Inevitably it becomes reasonable to consider that B's explanation is to some extent a product of B's unconscious biases. You might want to attribute what I'm writing here to unconscious biases on my part, but in this situation I am very conscious of my biases about this topic.
And to piggy back off of this, anything that can't be proven is only a theory, not a fact. Therefore unconscious bias is a theory and until proven as fact shouldn't really weigh much on anyone's mind.
Exactly. To say an unconscious bias exists generally is probably correct. To say a specific unconscious bias exists in a specific situation and/or person is likely to be incorrect more often than not.
One thing that I really appreciated was the track-level view (I think they had basically a golf cart on the track?). It's one thing to watch this from above, but when we got the close up, track-level view, it just changed my whole perception of how fast they were going and the effort they were putting in.
Disappointing that this thread has been hijacked by a race-baiter.
Personally, I don't think the bias is unconscious. People like seeing Eilish win because she's been there-abouts on the scene for many years and she's finally taken her moment to shine.
You can add in a number of other factors: her mum won the race a couple of times, and she's always had to deal with the comparisons; she's a gutsy frontrunner - who often gets outkicked; she's always very open and honest in interviews; she cops a lot of crap online from slobby numpties - who claim she's a bad role model because she's too skinny, etc.
Put all of that together, and it's a great story of perseverance. Who doesn't love that?
How sad that World's in Eugene was so badly done and poorly attended in comparison to the Commonwealth Games. It should have been way better than it was!
Slow down, Pigster. From personal experience I'm very aware of how much better Europe supports athletics than the US, but Eugene was not "so badly done." I was unable to attend due to a work commitment, but had a dozen or so friends that attended and all had said it was wonderful (or brilliant as you say on the other side of the pond). Yes, attendance should have been higher, but Eugene has a proven past with large (for the US), sell out crowds. Mistakes were certainly made, such as tickets being priced too high, but nobody could have predicted global inflation that made air travel difficult to the Pacific NW. How many people live within a few hour drive or train ride of Birmingham?
Disappointing that this thread has been hijacked by a race-baiter.
Personally, I don't think the bias is unconscious. People like seeing Eilish win because she's been there-abouts on the scene for many years and she's finally taken her moment to shine.
You can add in a number of other factors: her mum won the race a couple of times, and she's always had to deal with the comparisons; she's a gutsy frontrunner - who often gets outkicked; she's always very open and honest in interviews; she cops a lot of crap online from slobby numpties - who claim she's a bad role model because she's too skinny, etc.
Put all of that together, and it's a great story of perseverance. Who doesn't love that?
Agreed. I think she's a great story, being the daughter of a great from my era, making a big break through, coming from one of my favorite places. It could be that the woman she out kicked is also a great story but being in a non western country keeps us from hearing that story.
Holy cow, what a great finish in the women's 10,000 in the Commonwealth Games. McColgan and Cheptai side by side for 500m, just hammering away, and McColgan finally takes it with 75 to go. Unreal; they were flying.
Disappointing that this thread has been hijacked by a race-baiter.
Personally, I don't think the bias is unconscious. People like seeing Eilish win because she's been there-abouts on the scene for many years and she's finally taken her moment to shine.
You can add in a number of other factors: her mum won the race a couple of times, and she's always had to deal with the comparisons; she's a gutsy frontrunner - who often gets outkicked; she's always very open and honest in interviews; she cops a lot of crap online from slobby numpties - who claim she's a bad role model because she's too skinny, etc.
Put all of that together, and it's a great story of perseverance. Who doesn't love that?
Agreed. I think she's a great story, being the daughter of a great from my era, making a big break through, coming from one of my favorite places. It could be that the woman she out kicked is also a great story but being in a non western country keeps us from hearing that story.
This is so true. Why aren't western media trying to tell the stories of African athletes? Is it lack of access? Language barriers? Lack of effort from media?
In truth, the games show that Team GB should, arguably, do better OR they rank as good but usurped by other nations who are simply harder working, more talented and stronger willed in the heat of battle (See Cali U20 WC for further evidence). England have Scotland to thank for a fair few medal hopes/successes: Hodgkinson, Muir among them.🇬🇧
Slow down, Pigster. From personal experience I'm very aware of how much better Europe supports athletics than the US, but Eugene was not "so badly done." I was unable to attend due to a work commitment, but had a dozen or so friends that attended and all had said it was wonderful (or brilliant as you say on the other side of the pond). Yes, attendance should have been higher, but Eugene has a proven past with large (for the US), sell out crowds. Mistakes were certainly made, such as tickets being priced too high, but nobody could have predicted global inflation that made air travel difficult to the Pacific NW. How many people live within a few hour drive or train ride of Birmingham?
So, your friends thought it was wonderfull so lets all chalk it up as a success.
One thing that I really appreciated was the track-level view (I think they had basically a golf cart on the track?). It's one thing to watch this from above, but when we got the close up, track-level view, it just changed my whole perception of how fast they were going and the effort they were putting in.
+1
Yes, it was in about lane 5, showed close up from just before 1500 start to around 150. Great camera angle, especially for pain faces last few laps.
Agreed. I think she's a great story, being the daughter of a great from my era, making a big break through, coming from one of my favorite places. It could be that the woman she out kicked is also a great story but being in a non western country keeps us from hearing that story.
This is so true. Why aren't western media trying to tell the stories of African athletes? Is it lack of access? Language barriers? Lack of effort from media?
Do you think the African media focuses on non-African athletes? Can we please stop focusing on skin color? It's become an epidemic.
This is so true. Why aren't western media trying to tell the stories of African athletes? Is it lack of access? Language barriers? Lack of effort from media?
Do you think the African media focuses on non-African athletes? Can we please stop focusing on skin color? It's become an epidemic.
This is from the school of thought that asks why we don't have a white history month or an international men's day
Agreed. I think she's a great story, being the daughter of a great from my era, making a big break through, coming from one of my favorite places. It could be that the woman she out kicked is also a great story but being in a non western country keeps us from hearing that story.
This is so true. Why aren't western media trying to tell the stories of African athletes? Is it lack of access? Language barriers? Lack of effort from media?
There's probably not one particular reason and of course I'm just speculating. For one thing, the media doesn't pay that much attention to anyone in our sport and when it does I think it looks at athletes who speak the language most of its customers do, athletes who are accessible, and ones they think their audience will find relatable. That's more likely to happen with a Scot than with an East African for the western media, a situation that I think is compounded by the large number of East Africans in the sport and the relative scarcity of Scots, Canadians, etc.
Agreed. Watching Eilish finally get her moment made me quite emotional. She’s been there-abouts for so long and is always so gutsy in setting pace. Really enjoy how open she is on Insta. Hope she gets some more!
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