Hil Davidson’s top 2 were fine but: A 9:45 3200 guy run a 17:45. (Ran a 16:01 last year). A 10:05 guy ran a 17:54. (Ran a 16:49 last year). A 10:06 guy ran a 17:33. A 10:17 guy ran a 17:54. A 10:16 guy ran a 17:37. I know for sure that 9:45 guys are capable of running much faster than a 17:45.
10:05 guys can run better than a 17:54.
Also, all of their top 7 went under 17:20 last year.
So it was hot and humid today. So what? You could also invert these. Maybe anyone who managed 17:30-17:50 today is in the 9:45-10:10 range on the track. I'm not sure what point you're making. All teams ran the same course.
Lancaster looks much better on paper, Coffman will likely pack 3 guys in between Ackley and Boyd, and both Orange and Kilbourne can do the same. I'm not saying Davidson is bad... I'm just saying they're not the clear, dominant #1 in region 3 anymore.
Heat, humidity, training... etc. etc. whatever it was, this clearly just wasn't the week for them to perform to their potential. Gotta remember it's still August- and them boys train for one race and one race only.
They have the pieces necessary to be a top team in Ohio, admittedly probably not state champions but certainly capable of carrying on the tradition of success. All I'll say is keep sleeping on them boys at your own risk. Them boys dangerous!
After week one, I'm very impressed with Springboro. St. Xavier will bounce back, they're too good not to be in contention. Mas. Jackson, Medina, Solon all look promising. Don't forget about Dub. Coffman and Lancaster. Especially this early, it's so hard to compare across different courses, weather, etc.
Regarding Mason, nobody is ever a lock. It's really hard to win one state title, so much has to go right all season long. Exponentially harder to win two in a row. Don't give them the trophy yet, it will be a long and exciting road to state.
I think Marlington might be the best team in the state thought. I don't care how fast the course is, that was a great performance.
First off, even if Marlington is the best team in OH, they won’t be racing Mason at state since they are in different divisions.
The thing about Mason is that they are at least 8-deep. So they can have 1 guy injured or sick and it won’t hurt them much. That gives them an advantage that 5-deep teams don’t have.
After week one, I'm very impressed with Springboro. St. Xavier will bounce back, they're too good not to be in contention. Mas. Jackson, Medina, Solon all look promising. Don't forget about Dub. Coffman and Lancaster. Especially this early, it's so hard to compare across different courses, weather, etc.
Regarding Mason, nobody is ever a lock. It's really hard to win one state title, so much has to go right all season long. Exponentially harder to win two in a row. Don't give them the trophy yet, it will be a long and exciting road to state.
I think Marlington might be the best team in the state thought. I don't care how fast the course is, that was a great performance.
Marlington is certainly good, but Kilbourne probably has a better 1-2-3, and they've been beaten by other teams in D1 because of their 4-5. The same would likely happen to Marlington - this year at least. Their depth isn't quite the same as last year.
First off, even if Marlington is the best team in OH, they won’t be racing Mason at state since they are in different divisions.
The thing about Mason is that they are at least 8-deep. So they can have 1 guy injured or sick and it won’t hurt them much. That gives them an advantage that 5-deep teams don’t have.
Maybe Mason, Marlington, and St. X will all race against each other at the Midwest NXN in Terre Haute. It's not a true gauge though after a long season and just after a grueling schedule of district, regional, and state.
In 2019 a lot of people thought that D2 Woodridge was the best team in the state. They did go against St. X at MW NXN. Both did relatively well against some of the best teams in the Midwest that had a little more rest than they did and only about 20 points separated them. It would have been great if they went against each other in the regular season just like it would be nice to see Marlington go against some of the bigger schools in the regular season.
Anyone know when Mason is finally gonna race their varsity?
I heard they're sitting out until the state meet. :)
My guess is if they don't run this weekend they'll run at their home meet in two weeks. And while there have been some good performances from some teams I don't see anyone beating them unless they get hit with the injury bug.
Mason ran the full varsity at Loveland. Maybe this happens again this year
First off, even if Marlington is the best team in OH, they won’t be racing Mason at state since they are in different divisions.
The thing about Mason is that they are at least 8-deep. So they can have 1 guy injured or sick and it won’t hurt them much. That gives them an advantage that 5-deep teams don’t have.
Maybe Mason, Marlington, and St. X will all race against each other at the Midwest NXN in Terre Haute. It's not a true gauge though after a long season and just after a grueling schedule of district, regional, and state.
In 2019 a lot of people thought that D2 Woodridge was the best team in the state. They did go against St. X at MW NXN. Both did relatively well against some of the best teams in the Midwest that had a little more rest than they did and only about 20 points separated them. It would have been great if they went against each other in the regular season just like it would be nice to see Marlington go against some of the bigger schools in the regular season.
It would be nice to see them race earlier.
I believed Woodridge was better than St. X. Partially out of bias…I love the idea of D2 Woodridge beating the expensive private school with a massive enrollment.
After week one, I'm very impressed with Springboro. St. Xavier will bounce back, they're too good not to be in contention. Mas. Jackson, Medina, Solon all look promising. Don't forget about Dub. Coffman and Lancaster. Especially this early, it's so hard to compare across different courses, weather, etc.
Regarding Mason, nobody is ever a lock. It's really hard to win one state title, so much has to go right all season long. Exponentially harder to win two in a row. Don't give them the trophy yet, it will be a long and exciting road to state.
I think Marlington might be the best team in the state thought. I don't care how fast the course is, that was a great performance.
Marlington is certainly good, but Kilbourne probably has a better 1-2-3, and they've been beaten by other teams in D1 because of their 4-5. The same would likely happen to Marlington - this year at least. Their depth isn't quite the same as last year.
I'm pretty confident saying Mason has the best team in the state, Marlington is good but Mason should be on another level. They don't need a lot to go right, they just need a lot to not go wrong.
Marlington is certainly good, but Kilbourne probably has a better 1-2-3, and they've been beaten by other teams in D1 because of their 4-5. The same would likely happen to Marlington - this year at least. Their depth isn't quite the same as last year.
I'm pretty confident saying Mason has the best team in the state, Marlington is good but Mason should be on another level. They don't need a lot to go right, they just need a lot to not go wrong.
Yeah I think it will be more of a challenge to make the top 7 at mason and stay there than to win d1 state
I'm pretty confident saying Mason has the best team in the state, Marlington is good but Mason should be on another level. They don't need a lot to go right, they just need a lot to not go wrong.
Yeah I think it will be more of a challenge to make the top 7 at mason and stay there than to win d1 state
This doesn’t make any sense. The winner of the state meet will have beaten everyone. Mason’s 7th man has at 6 guys better than him from his own school. What?
After week one, I'm very impressed with Springboro. St. Xavier will bounce back, they're too good not to be in contention. Mas. Jackson, Medina, Solon all look promising. Don't forget about Dub. Coffman and Lancaster. Especially this early, it's so hard to compare across different courses, weather, etc.
Regarding Mason, nobody is ever a lock. It's really hard to win one state title, so much has to go right all season long. Exponentially harder to win two in a row. Don't give them the trophy yet, it will be a long and exciting road to state.
I think Marlington might be the best team in the state thought. I don't care how fast the course is, that was a great performance.
Can’t forget Tol st Francis. They beat Mas Jackson in the first race.
I feel like for the other spots behind Mason, it is a toss up.
My top 5 for d1 for now based on the meets we just had: 1. Mason. Defending champs that are very deep and only lost 2 guys 2. Springboro. Got 14th last year but undefeated so far this year. Beat a bunch of top ranked teams. 3. St. Xavier. Almost beat Springboro at the first meet. 4. Tol de Francis. Beat Mas. Jackson in the first meet. 16:24 average 5. Mas. Jackson. Got 7th last year and brought back almost everyone and still very young team that could go for a title next year. Good opening for them. 16:24 average just like Tol de francis.