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There is a video out there of a USSR/USA/Jamaica meet.
The 100 has Lennox Miller/Don Quarrie Jamaica, Meriweather and Jim Green USA, Borzov and,,,,done forgot USSR, Can't find it, yet!
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Tom Byers pacemaker beating Ovett.
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Buddy, Lewis didn't run the 100m or 200m in '92, finished fourth in the 100m and 3rd in the 200m at '93 WC. Lewis had been losing a step for years prior to '95. You'd only be surprised with Lewis and Stewart getting beat in that scenario if you were confused and thought it was 1990.
Sure, and Australia has had an Olympic champion in the sprints. The exception makes the rule.
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Donald Thomas
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more of a fieldster though
Nezha Bidouane and Daimi Pernia wrt tracksters
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BOHICA wrote:
Buddy, Lewis didn't run the 100m or 200m in '92, finished fourth in the 100m and 3rd in the 200m at '93 WC. Lewis had been losing a step for years prior to '95. You'd only be surprised with Lewis and Stewart getting beat in that scenario if you were confused and thought it was 1990.
Sure, and Australia has had an Olympic champion in the sprints. The exception makes the rule.
Lewis was world ranked in the 100m....
92-3
93-6
94-10
And would be world ranked again in 96 another 10th
So here was the great Carl Lewis losing a 100m to some guy who had never done anything at all in a100m before this race. What about that aren't you getting?
Read what was said about this race, yep......unknown beats...and on and on.
And it was early season nobody knowing that 95 wasn't going to b a good season for Lewis.
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Deno wrote:
Before Meriweather ever won anything he was well known. His story was known before he won our Nationals 100 yards in 9.0w.
Yes, he was well known in the outdoor season because he came out of nowhere in the preceding indoor season and beat big names. His first indoor meet in 1971 was at the University of Maryland. He ran 6.0 for 60 yards and beat Mel Pender--who was just, you know, the U.S. recordholder for that distance. THAT is "out of nowhere."
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Deno wrote:
la gente esta muy loca wrote:
Greene came in 4th; 60m dash at the World Indoors that March and 2nd ( Tim Harden ) at the US Nationals before that.
Delano Meriwether is the correct answer.
Also, Bill Gaines > Sam Perry.
Bill Gaines was never "out of nowhere" he was a huge HS star before heading out west to run for SCVYV "Speed City" in San Jose.
Before Meriweather ever won anything he was well known. His story was known before he won our Nationals 100 yards in 9.0w.
When Bill Gaines won the US Indoor National 60y dash in 1966 ( also won in 67 and 68 ) he was a High School Jr. in NJ. He tied the WR of 5.9 in the heats and won in 6.0. The previous month he had won the NJ Grp I-II in 6.4 at the Jersey City Armory ( not a great venue ). In fact, if someone on New Year's Day said a hs kid from NJ named Bill would win that race, I would've thought Bill Walker of Englewood. He won the Grp III 60y in 6.3.
When Sam Perry won in 63, his time of 6.3 tied the slowest time since 1940 ( 1946 and 1952 ). Interestingly, from 1961 to 1968, except 1964 ( Bob Hayes ), the Nat 60y was won by NJ sprinters. Frank Budd - Asbury Park; Sam Perry - Passaic; and Bill Gaines - Clearview !
Speaking of sprinters from NJ, though he never ran high school track, I believe Dave Sime ( yes I know he's Christian McCaffrey's grandfather ) beating Bobby Morrow at the Drake Relays in 1956 was the greatest "out of nowhere" trackster.
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Coevett wrote:
Paul Ereng has to be up there.
Prior to Seoul, he had only broken 1:46 twice, and won the Olympic final in 1:43.45. Only hardcore track fans would have known who he was, and nobody would have put him down as a medal contender.
He was so unknown the announcers called the win for Kiprotich live and then had to correct it to Ereng later.
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la gente esta muy loca wrote:
Deno wrote:
Bill Gaines was never "out of nowhere" he was a huge HS star before heading out west to run for SCVYV "Speed City" in San Jose.
Before Meriweather ever won anything he was well known. His story was known before he won our Nationals 100 yards in 9.0w.
When Bill Gaines won the US Indoor National 60y dash in 1966 ( also won in 67 and 68 ) he was a High School Jr. in NJ. He tied the WR of 5.9 in the heats and won in 6.0. The previous month he had won the NJ Grp I-II in 6.4 at the Jersey City Armory ( not a great venue ). In fact, if someone on New Year's Day said a hs kid from NJ named Bill would win that race, I would've thought Bill Walker of Englewood. He won the Grp III 60y in 6.3.
When Sam Perry won in 63, his time of 6.3 tied the slowest time since 1940 ( 1946 and 1952 ). Interestingly, from 1961 to 1968, except 1964 ( Bob Hayes ), the Nat 60y was won by NJ sprinters. Frank Budd - Asbury Park; Sam Perry - Passaic; and Bill Gaines - Clearview !
Speaking of sprinters from NJ, though he never ran high school track, I believe Dave Sime ( yes I know he's Christian McCaffrey's grandfather ) beating Bobby Morrow at the Drake Relays in 1956 was the greatest "out of nowhere" trackster.
Good stuff and we now must give Dave Sime the "out of nowhere" award, to beat Bobby Morrow who had a 30 race winning record going on is a real big deal.
Too bad he was injured in 1956 of course so was Jim Golliday who ws on that level.
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Mel Pender was 34 years old in 1971 way past his WR days. Being in the Army he could stay in the sport didn't need a legit job.
There was an indoor meet in Arizona, studs Don Quarrie and Steve Williams were entered in the 60, so was local high school kid LaNoris Marshall. yep...the kid beats them both.....out of nowhere.
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Those of us watching (almost)at the height of Coe/Ovett mania remember Olaf Beyer, who beat 'em both in Prague Euro's.
Beyer had been running for years and was a so-so 1:46 -at-best guy. Then boom, 1.43.8, then back to mediocrity. That is what PED's will do for you, folks.
It's a pity because this race was about the closest we ever got to Coe vs Ovett both running well and fit.
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Matt London.
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Old man's kids put him in an old folks home, he is 86 years old.
The place had a piano, the old man had never played a piano before. So one day he decides to give it a shot inside a year he has a recording contract and doing concerts right there at the old folks home.
Out of nowhere.
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Lobalu in Stockholm DL. 20 sec PB and WL. And he beat Kiplimo.
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Deno wrote:
Can't ....come from nowhere.....and be an Olympian.
Can't come from nowhere and be "the greatest" . . . if you're ascent is drug-aided.
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It’s about time I received some recognition…
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She'll Be Slowagain wrote:
Deno wrote:
Can't ....come from nowhere.....and be an Olympian.
Can't come from nowhere and be "the greatest" . . . if you're ascent is drug-aided.
I don't care about drugs however ya get it done works for me.
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billymills1964 wrote:
It’s about time I received some recognition…
Billy how can you be a member of our Olympic team and.......out of nowhere?
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