Uh-oh. Bill Maher just spoke up on the trans kids debate.

I understand it perfectly. Bill Maher is very liberal. A more intelligent person would realize that being to the extreme left of Bill Maher is problematic if you're hoping to get elected in America anywhere but the coasts.

Democrats are getting DESTROYED on the generic ballot these days. I know you have no idea what that means, but trust me it's a big deal. You haven't been this unpopular since the Civil War. That means something whether you're bright enough to understand it or not.

The part that you aren’t understanding is that the above isn’t a problem.

There you go getting distracted by team sports mentality again. You just can’t help it.

This is why you shouldn't align yourself with one political party - I consider myself "libertarian" on most positions and absolutely don't support policies that allow for child sex-change procedures. Anyone who thinks it's a good idea to start removing organs, and pumping children full of hormones and puberty blockers because they say they feel like they're the wrong sex should be charged with child abuse. The fact is there is no valid, objective protocol for diagnosing TRUE, organic, medically-based gender dysphoria, and differentiating it from gender dysphoria caused by social influences or trauma. Until that happens, nobody should be operating on children.

It's sad to see the left use children as pawns in some weird social/cultural/political battles going on in society.

Pretending our government isn't run by two parties doesn't make you sophisticated it makes you naive...

lol...

In other words, "I could be persuaded to become gay."

That's really what's at the root of this problem. Right wing weirdos who aren't firmly on the heterosexual side of the sexuality spectrum taking their weird guilt and shame out on the rest of us. They're so repressed and confused that they get tingly at the mere mention of the existence of trans people, so they assume all children do, too. Thus, the disgusting accusations of "grooming."

If you are a child and you don't even understand that you are gay yet it isn't difficult to be convinced that you're not gay at all you're just trapped in the wrong body.

The explosion in the number of kids who think they are trans suggests this is exactly what's happening.

Sexually mutilating CHILDREN does not make you enlightened. It makes you a monster. You are NOT helping these kids.

But all teenagers know exactly who they are and what they want to be in life, right?

They recognize gender identity is not always tied to biology and therefore trans gender identities are valid. That's good enough for me.

I'm tired of people describing themselves as libertarian or conservative and not having the first clue why. At least this party has thought about the subject and how it interacts with their stated aims.

Globalism is where businesses are freely able to operate around the globe. But this becomes as problem when they divide it up for their own aims. You can manufacture products for Indonesian wages, sell at American prices, and pay Bahamian taxes with the help of strong borders. Again, the Libertarian Party have thought about this issue and decided that isn't economic or personal freedom, so have a policy of less restrictive immigration.

You need to be pretty far right to think Bill Maher is very liberal. Of course there are also basically zero far left people in US politics these days...

Conservatives love doing this identity politics issues cause it distracts from real issues. Trying to actual do something is hard and is likely to lead to you not getting reelected

Well then it's a good thing the imaginary scenario you invented doesn't happen. We tell our young impressionable kids they are free to be themselves. They have a gay aunt and attended her gay wedding. They also live with two heterosexual parents and are surrounded by what is still a large majority heterosexual and cis society, so really if there is any pervasive influence it's to be straight and "normal".

I don't know who you think is pushing gayness on children. What a weird thing to think.

Who's "they"?? Libertarians aren't a monolith. Real people don't fit into the little boxes you seem to be demanding they fit into.

I'm tired of people whining about other people not believing what they think they should believe.

20 years ago Bill Maher was considered very liberal. Today the Republican party and Bill Maher are pretty much exactly where they were 20 years ago. Meanwhile, the Democratic party has shifted WAY to the left.

It is patently absurd to suggest that "identity politics" is a conservative issue. Identity politics is the literal bedrock of the current version of the Democratic party.

Democrats never do anything hard. They offer free stuff and tell everyone they're victims.

Even more of us don't want to hear about it.

transgendertrend.com

Do children grow out of gender dysphoria? - Transgender Trend

Transgender Trend

Do children change their minds and grow out of opposite-sex identification? Looking at the evidence and predictors for persistence and desistance.

Open link

https://www.transgendertrend.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Steensma-2013_desistance-rates.pdf

That's one study. The majority of studies disagree.

transgendertrend.com??!!

come on man!!