Not true. I talked to her afterward. No limping, no pain. She was just out of shape.
Both statements can be true. Out of shape due to lack of training due to pain in her foot. One doesn’t negate the other.
You didn't understand what I wrote.
She HAD been injured, which is why she lost training time, which is why she was out of shape, which is why she ran slow at indoor nationals. But she had recovered from her injury in time for indoor nationals.
The bigger question is why did her coach let her run at indoor nationals knowing she was so out of shape? I would have withdrawn her from indoor nationals and have her focus on getting back into shape for spring track.
I remember people roasting me for saying if I was a college coach I would never recruit Cook because of her atrocious running form. But here we are now.
I remember people roasting me for saying if I was a college coach I would never recruit Cook because of her atrocious running form. But here we are now.
I was one of the few people who agreed with you. I wouldn't have recruited Angelina Perez either, and they were the top 2 at Footlocker/Eastbay XC.
But I can see it from the perspective of a college coach. If either one of those women could manage to stay healthy, they would be very helpful to the team. I guess with talent that high sometimes a college coach feels they need to take a chance.
Where is that? You actually want to point out that you wouldn't have recruited the freshman who finished 7th at nationals and broke the U20 record? This is the most bizarre self incrimination I have ever seen here.
Where is that? You actually want to point out that you wouldn't have recruited the freshman who finished 7th at nationals and broke the U20 record? This is the most bizarre self incrimination I have ever seen here.
Both statements can be true. Out of shape due to lack of training due to pain in her foot. One doesn’t negate the other.
You didn't understand what I wrote.
She HAD been injured, which is why she lost training time, which is why she was out of shape, which is why she ran slow at indoor nationals. But she had recovered from her injury in time for indoor nationals.
The bigger question is why did her coach let her run at indoor nationals knowing she was so out of shape? I would have withdrawn her from indoor nationals and have her focus on getting back into shape for spring track.
I guess I didn't agree she wasn't running injured AND out of shape. That was the bottom line. She herself stated she had a foot flare up in her Insta post and now it's been confirmed she has a stress reaction. Would you not agree she was probably running on a stress reaction during indoor nationals? The pain may have been tolerable but the injury still existed. Or are you suggesting that she was perfectly fine and a week after nationals it suddenly appeared?
You can walk normally and train with a stress reaction- doesn't mean you aren't injured. I know someone who walked around and trained with 2 femoral stress fractures.
I agree why would the coaches let her run unless she hadn't had appropriate imaging done to confirm the reaction and thus didn't know it had progressed to that.
This sport is tough- when do you back off, keep going, stop completely when you probably always have aches and pains.
I remember people roasting me for saying if I was a college coach I would never recruit Cook because of her atrocious running form. But here we are now.
I was one of the few people who agreed with you. I wouldn't have recruited Angelina Perez either, and they were the top 2 at Footlocker/Eastbay XC.
But I can see it from the perspective of a college coach. If either one of those women could manage to stay healthy, they would be very helpful to the team. I guess with talent that high sometimes a college coach feels they need to take a chance.
Its all a gamble. Look at MANY of the 2020-2022 grads that had huge success in HS. A very large % are not doing much in college. Granted they may all come around to form but maybe they wont? I will agree w someone like Perez the gamble is even higher given her apparent very active ED. Anyone who had ever seen her in person knew something was very very wrong.
Maybe some coaches want that flash in the pan, give us huge results for a season or 2, then we have enough other talent to take over when it breaks?
- Lindsey Butler runs on an injury, wins 800m indoor title but sacrifices her outdoor season due to a confirmed stress fracture
- Lauren Gregory leaves Indoors in a boot
- Natalie Cook runs on an injury at nationals, later confirms a season-ending stress fracture
EXACTLY
And that's just a drop in the bucket. Would probably be astonishing to know how many athletes are walking that razors edge of champion, and out with season ending injury. Its why it drives me batty when people go on and on about Tuohys knee thing. She's amazing but not unique in any sense. So many people lining up on the start line have had interruptions to training and or are actively running hurt. If they did exit interviews after nationals I bet 75% of athletes would report some sort of nagging thing or moments in the season they had to back off for a minute to heal something minor.
Tuohy has done a great job staying healthy, as far as we know since, which as just a fan of the sport, I would attribute to healthy, substantial fueling and working on maintaining strong bones, supporting muscles and good recovery.
And Cook is the fastest freshman in history. Buy somebody still says he wouldn't have recruited her. What did that Tuohy girl do freshman year? How about Valby? How about Roe?
And Cook is the fastest freshman in history. Buy somebody still says he wouldn't have recruited her. What did that Tuohy girl do freshman year? How about Valby? How about Roe?
Tuohy fans are still talking about her injuries impacting her current times and progression from freshman year. Should have never signed her. Wait. Cook is better than Tuohy was freshman year.
Tuohy has done a great job staying healthy, as far as we know since, which as just a fan of the sport, I would attribute to healthy, substantial fueling and working on maintaining strong bones, supporting muscles and good recovery.
Tuohy was injured at the end of XC last year too and sat out indoors until ACCs.
Chmiel also had a foot injury last outdoors which delayed her start for XC this year.
I hope that Gregory, Cook can recover quickly. Cook's is worrisome because it sounds like the same place, and a navicular fracture can take time.
And Cook is the fastest freshman in history. Buy somebody still says he wouldn't have recruited her. What did that Tuohy girl do freshman year? How about Valby? How about Roe?
Didn't say I wouldn't recruit- said it was a gamble- as is EVERY athlete a coach recruits. No one is a given. Some just have better odds
Cook and Tuohy seem like great people, great teammates and supportive of those around them- that goes a long way in team culture and would rank high on my list of reasons to bring on. Someone clearly out for only their own glory and not a team player not so much.
Where is that? You actually want to point out that you wouldn't have recruited the freshman who finished 7th at nationals and broke the U20 record? This is the most bizarre self incrimination I have ever seen here.
I've seen her running mechanics and that's all I need to see to pass on her. First time I saw her run was at RunningLane and I cringed watching that.
There's plenty of coaches that passed on her obviously. She could have gone to Stanford, NC State, or anywhere else....if they wanted her.
When some people said natalie cook would destroy katelyn tuohy .. i told them she would not even handle the wear and tear of college running and her we are...
her body broke down just after one season ... just like parker valby
they are both injury prone and it doesnt help that they dont want to do running as training
them dodging running at training is the reason why they are so fragile
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