Idk man. When youre running 80 miles per week starting at 6 years old, that's gotta do something to your improvement curve besides just raising the peak.
Why? Other than getting tired of running. This must be the only sport where it is a negative to have started early.
Reread his post. Clearly he says starting early has a positive affect on an athlete’s ultimate peak.
every morning when i check letsrun i’m astonished by the ignorance and stupidity of people that post here. why does lersrun attract the dumbest of the human race over and over? aren’t we all runners? i thought you be a runner you had to have a little self respect but i guess not
I would put $100,000 down that he breaks 3:26. Vegas odds say I would probably make a $1,000,000 on my bet which means its a 1 in 10 that he does it. So he will likely run 3:25 point. I don't think he will run 3:25. I am actually wondering how far under 3:25 he runs will he run 3:24 low mid or high or will he brak 3:24 and run 3:23.9 or something.
Whatever do your prodigy ... count the number of years before things return to the normal. A sudden scandinave fart will not move a big mountain called Africa.
Yeah, im basically posing the question of wouldnt Ingebrigtsen run into the law of diminishing returns sooner.
Yes, but at his level, he and his competitors are already experiencing that. The longer he trains as a young man, the closer he will get to his full potential or his "peak" fitness. I don't see why this would occur any sooner than other runners - he will just have more time striving to attain his full potential.
The closer to your full potential you become, the harder it is to improve, so it would be more accurate to suggest Jakob will improve less and less into his mid/late-20s rather than suggesting he will reach his absolute peak sooner than others. To suggest the latter is to assume that he will reach his genetic limits before any additional training can produce adaptations, and I think that's pessimistic.
We really can't know, but I'll take a 25 YO Jakob in a race over a 23 YO Jakob for these reasons.
So what youre saying is no one in athletics reaches their genetic potential, they simply run out of time. They get old and at that point their potential decreases. Thus Ingebrigtsen training from an earlier age means he has more time to get closer to his peak potential than others before him.
Jakob is an Olympic Gold Medalist and a WR holder. Way to early to be making bets against him doing anything on the track. He can run faster than he has to date and what he has already accomplished is incredible.
So what youre saying is no one in athletics reaches their genetic potential, they simply run out of time. They get old and at that point their potential decreases. Thus Ingebrigtsen training from an earlier age means he has more time to get closer to his peak potential than others before him.
I think this is just as reasonable as the other theories (coincidentally it is how it is in other sports. You have a given age when you are to old, but before that - train as much as you can). Given that some of these sports are more skill sports.
But I think he might get burned out/content earlier.
every morning when i check letsrun i’m astonished by the ignorance and stupidity of people that post here. why does lersrun attract the dumbest of the human race over and over? aren’t we all runners? i thought you be a runner you had to have a little self respect but i guess not
If you think it requires extraordinary intelligence to put on your shoes and run you have set the bar low for what is considered intelligence. This, in turn, says a lot about your incredible stupidity. Tying your shoes as a sign of intelligence, wow.
The closer to your full potential you become, the harder it is to improve, so it would be more accurate to suggest Jakob will improve less and less into his mid/late-20s
Another thing I was just thinking about now that you bring this up is that, while many expect Ingebrigtsen to improve his PB this year by over a second (some predict +2 seconds, others even a WR), what if he improves by less than a second? Worse, what if he goes a 3rd year in a row with a SB of 3:28? That would suggest that these diminishing returns have already kicked in. Coincidentally, this would also make his progression resemble Timothy's.
I'd need to see a SB under 3:27.5 to "disprove" this theory. If he barely goes under 3:28 or fails to go sub 3:28 this season, that's good reason to doubt he can ultimately reach 3:25 imo. Because at that point it would seem unlikely that he could shave more than a few tenths at a time.
I would put $100,000 down that he breaks 3:26. Vegas odds say I would probably make a $1,000,000 on my bet which means its a 1 in 10 that he does it. So he will likely run 3:25 point. I don't think he will run 3:25. I am actually wondering how far under 3:25 he runs will he run 3:24 low mid or high or will he brak 3:24 and run 3:23.9 or something.
Whatever do your prodigy ... count the number of years before things return to the normal. A sudden scandinave fart will not move a big mountain called Africa.
The big bird flying free over the Khalahari, drops the smallest poops over the Moroccan Sahara.
A wise man in Chefchaouen once told me that.
But I think he had been taking some drugs and stuff.
Get used to the farts Passant, Jakob is the new normal - there are a dozen like him emerging in the junior ranks.
From what I saw in the Olympics, I think it is very possible [to break the world outdoor record,]. Not only do I believe that, I'm waiting for the moment when it comes, Lewandowski says to VG.
Lewandowski points out in particular one thing that is needed for Ingebrigtsen to be able to break the world record for El Guerrouj.
"Physically he is ready, but the question is the mental. Is he ready for it or not? If you try to imagine a 3.25 speed, it can scare you"Lewandowski points out in particular one thing that is needed for Ingebrigtsen to be able to break the world record for El Guerrouj.
- Physically he is ready, but the question is the mental. Is he ready for it or not? If you try to imagine a 3.25 speed, it can scare you," says Lewandowski, who liked the offensive mindset he saw from Ingebrigtsen before Thursday's race.
Marcin Lewandowski (34) har kjempet side om side med Jakob Ingebrigtsen (21) flere ganger. Nå håper den polske utøveren at Ingebrigtsen skal følge opp torsdagens verdensrekord innendørs med verdensrekord utendørs.
as a general rule the younger people start learning things the better they become at them because you are more plastic at a young age. jakob starting running much younger means there is much more chance of him being better than someone who started later all things equal.
