Nuguse drops a 3:54.46 @ Notre Dame

Glad someone called this out.

Haters need to stop being so by the book. Nuguse is an Olympian

soft weak wrote:

Yeah, if he doesn’t put in the effort to run his heat at the Olympics so why should I bother looking up how to spell his name properly.

Oh yeah. He ain’t an Olympian.

He is more of an Olympian than any of us lol.

I'd you are on a team that made the NBA finals. You're an NBA finalist. But according to your logic you wouldn't be a NBA finalist lol.

Nuguse is an Olympian even more so than Sam Parsons or Alexi Pappas who some posters here also try to discredit. (In my opinion they are also Olympian/finalists obviously)

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com·​pet·​i·​tor | \ kəm-ˈpe-tə-tər \

Definition of competitor

: one that competes: such as

a: RIVAL

a fierce competitor on the soccer field

b: one selling or buying goods or services in the same market as another

offering lower prices than our competitors

c: an organism that lives in competition with another

The squid population increased dramatically when food competitors were depleted by heavy overfishing.

Definition of Olympian:

O·lym·pi·an

/əˈlimpēən,ōˈlimpēən/

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adjective

1.

associated with Mount Olympus in northeastern Greece, or with the Greek gods whose home was traditionally held to be there.

"a temple of Olympian Zeus"

2.

relating to the ancient or modern Olympic Games.

"an Olympian champion"

noun

1.

any of the twelve Greek gods regarded as living on Olympus.

2.

a competitor in the Olympic Games.

"as the greatest Olympian, he is something of a sporting god"

Nuguse is clearly all of the bold definitions. Case closed.

I also think he is a lock to win the mile this year. Maybe even the 3k depending on the millrose games. Unless you guys believe in Nico young's conversion mile lol

In what world was he a competitor in the Olympics? He did not participate in a si glen event. Holy cow this is a terrible take.

raging clue wrote:

Glad someone called this out.

Haters need to stop being so by the book. Nuguse is an Olympian

Right....so let's say I qualified to race an Ironman. I don't show up. Am I an Ironman?

Competitor means someone who competed.

He did not complete. Not a competitor. Not an Olympian.

Nguse is weak. He couldn’t take the pressure of the Olympics so he faked an injury. To call him an Olympian is to denigrate all of the true olympians that came before him. He’s a puzzy

Is this Craig Engels replying here lol

If Ngeues is an Olympian so is craig engles. Craig qualified as an alternate. Ngues scratched, so the alternate qualified to complete. So by your definition craig Engle’s is an Olympian too. He qualified to compete when Ngues withdrew.

Valid point. And nobody answered the earlier question about some dictator entering himself because you don't have to qualify if only 1 entrant. Some 300 pound 80 year old could declare himself an Olympic marathoner.

You become a competitor long before you compete.

As soon as you qualify and your name appears on the starting list, you are a competitor. Other competitors think of you as a contender, plan their tactics involving you, that is already a big part of competition.

It's like enrolling in a university. Letter of intent, enlisting to classes and you already are considered a student before you even set your foot into a classroom.

Enlisting here is the keyword. Nuguse had his name in the start list, a.k.a. list of competitors.

Interesting. Drew Hunter was a student at Oregon?

NJ NY wrote:

Interesting. Drew Hunter was a student at Oregon?

If he has enrolled and applied for the classes - for the time being - yes.

In Germany there are people, who apply for university to get student status, which enables them to purchase a cheap "student ticket" for public transportation. They never go to a single class though and once kicked out of the university for inactivity, they apply at another one.

He signed his NLI 4 years ago and he enrolled. He then withdrew and went pro before attending. You said that made him a Duck. If Nuguse is an Olympian forever, then Hunter is a Duck forever. Your logic is severely flawed. I enrolled in Boston this year but changed my mind. I will forever be a Boston marathoner though I guess.

NJ NY wrote:

He signed his NLI 4 years ago and he enrolled. He then withdrew and went pro before attending. You said that made him a Duck. If Nuguse is an Olympian forever, then Hunter is a Duck forever. Your logic is severely flawed. I enrolled in Boston this year but changed my mind. I will forever be a Boston marathoner though I guess.

Well here's your keyword - withdrew. If he would have not withdrawn but simply not attended any classes, he would still have had student status untill kicked out of university.

Since Nuguse didn't withdraw beforehand and simply didn't start, he had the status of the competitor. And once competitor - therefore an olympian.

But I will be a Boston Marathoner forever? I didn't withdraw. I just didn't show up. I can't wait to change my social media to state that I am a Boston Marathoner.

NJ NY wrote:

But I will be a Boston Marathoner forever? I didn't withdraw. I just didn't show up. I can't wait to change my social media to state that I am a Boston Marathoner.

Maybe, maybe not, I don't know. There is no legal / dictionary definition on "Boston Marathoner", whereas there is one for being an Olympian.

Marathon could have totally different stipulations, like an actual start, crossing the finish line, running for the entirety of the distance (no walking), that depends.

I'm not sure you could say you're a "Boston Marathoner" if you ran but didn't finish, while you're definitely an Olympian even if you didn't finish your race.

But the Olympic Marathon is okay if a person qualifies and decides not to run the day before? They are an Olympic marathoner the rest of their life?

spade detector wrote:

Why is this thread 90% a dumb argument about who does or doesn’t consider Yared to be an Olympian?

Excited to see him go for the collegiate record at Millrose.