NCAA Predicted Women's Individual top 10

I think chmiel and mccabe might beat chelengat... I think they can out kick her on fast course.... roe 4th...

Tuohy doing crowd control at 30 sec mark

https://youtu.be/cVxEyajmHHI

Ezrun wrote:

Jack2651 wrote:

If you read the preview on the front page of letsrun it states BYU coach Diljeet Taylor strategically rested Orton this fall. Most top programs will resty runners multiple races during the xc season.

If you want to call resting injured Runners strategy then go for it, but it seems like more necessity and Common Sense

I've never heard in any of the sport the use of the word strategy when injured players are kept out of competing

Orton has obviously been dealing with injuries for the last year or so and she had a great 5K in the spring but outside of that has not looked like a top five. Not looking to debate semantics anymore but it's just not the common use of the word strategy to rest injured runners

Orton was injured sometime around last winter and spring. There isn't really any evidence that she's injured now. She is definitely injury-prone, though, so it makes sense to use her sparingly. Diljeet Taylor says that Orton isn't injured (and she acknowledged in the spring that Orton had been dealing with an injury, so I don't think she's engaging in gamesmanship), so I believe her.

Also, while resting actually injured athletes isn't really a strategy, managing how much a player is used absolutely is. There's a reason why baseball has pitch count limits for starters and "load management" has become such a big topic of conversation in the NBA.

FastTuohy wrote:

Another perspective by the Wood Report

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb38nRvmWOU&t=1342s

Listened to first part of this and turned it off. I thought the analysis was not great and the projections didn’t make sense. I think Letsrun and Flotrack are both more more thoughtful than this podcast.

show me the money wrote:

I think chmiel and mccabe might beat chelengat... I think they can out kick her on fast course.... roe 4th...

McCabe in a kick yes, Chmiel and Roe probably not.

Hate? Easy, child. Maybe paste over “pudgy” with “sub-optimally fit,” get stuck in a warm pile of Uncrustables and quit blubbering. The next time someone on these boards uses the phrase “Fat Kenny” in ref to Bekele, be sure to deliver a stern rebuke in that case as well.

Both Wolfgram and Tuohy have exospheric ceilings--a consistent sub-2:25 marathoner well before she’s 30 on the one hand, a potential American Dibaba on the other--but presently I think there’s a gap between the two in a 6k race. It’s tempting, probably not in the best way, to look for things amiss in an athlete who so recently dominated her age group peers like a titan, but now seems shy of peak form. If Tuohy has held 85-90% of peak fitness recently, that’s likely still enough to get the job done (5th--12th) for the team this weekend. If Wolfgram finishes between 25th and 40th, I’d consider it a solid effort from a nascent star.

iowakidscanrun wrote:

FastTuohy wrote:

Another perspective by the Wood Report

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb38nRvmWOU&t=1342s

Listened to first part of this and turned it off. I thought the analysis was not great and the projections didn’t make sense. I think Letsrun and Flotrack are both more more thoughtful than this podcast.

I haven't listened to this podcast yet, but I honestly can't take Gordon from FloTrack seriously. I think Kevin does a better job, and whenever the two disagree, Kevin is almost always the more persuasive one because Gordon just resorts to repeating the same thing over and over and acting like anyone who doesn't 100% agree with him is an idiot.

bbg95 wrote:

iowakidscanrun wrote:

Listened to first part of this and turned it off. I thought the analysis was not great and the projections didn’t make sense. I think Letsrun and Flotrack are both more more thoughtful than this podcast.

I haven't listened to this podcast yet, but I honestly can't take Gordon from FloTrack seriously. I think Kevin does a better job, and whenever the two disagree, Kevin is almost always the more persuasive one because Gordon just resorts to repeating the same thing over and over and acting like anyone who doesn't 100% agree with him is an idiot.

Agree with you on the Kevin vs Gordon take. I thought Gordon was pretty far off in his rankings during the year but he’s done more homework and created better stuff for Nationals. Is it “A” quality? Probably not. Is it better than the Wood report? Yes.

I'm gna call it for Chmiel.

There are some powerful women in this race and it should be exciting. McCabe was brilliant at Nuttycombe but that was a while back. Does she still have that in her at NCAAs?

Chmiel timed her kick to beat roe and did that... mccabe took advantage... now chmiel knows.... tuohy needs to run in the pack and not try to lead... if she does she could b there at the finish... Orton and logue will lead early and fade....

i dont have faith with Orton.

I think she's slightly overrated. her track season is okay at best.

Shredded!

Tuohy 4 the win!

not sara hall wrote:

i dont have faith with Orton.

I think she's slightly overrated. her track season is okay at best.

Eh, we'll see. I think Orton has the best 5K PR (15:12.91 back in May) in the field. Given that this course is supposed to be pretty easy, especially compared to the Oklahoma State course, that probably favors runners who are better on the track.

iowakidscanrun wrote:

bbg95 wrote:

I haven't listened to this podcast yet, but I honestly can't take Gordon from FloTrack seriously. I think Kevin does a better job, and whenever the two disagree, Kevin is almost always the more persuasive one because Gordon just resorts to repeating the same thing over and over and acting like anyone who doesn't 100% agree with him is an idiot.

Agree with you on the Kevin vs Gordon take. I thought Gordon was pretty far off in his rankings during the year but he’s done more homework and created better stuff for Nationals. Is it “A” quality? Probably not. Is it better than the Wood report? Yes.

Oh I agree, but sometimes nice to look at what others are saying, even if (we think) there are obvious flaws. I am not sure how they come up with some of the rankings they post, which seem to ignore what the runners have done head to head recently.

A few days ago I watched a documentary on Taryn O'Neill and the struggles that she has gone through and overcome. She is one resilient and tough person. I'm not picking her to win but she is my sentimental favorite. If you get a free 30 minutes, I highly suggest using it to watch this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzkjYFd9sK0

Did Adelyn Ackley of Liberty qualify? I thought it was just Calli Doan?

FAN123456789 wrote:

Did Adelyn Ackley of Liberty qualify? I thought it was just Calli Doan?

You are right, just Doan from liberty

Alter G Money wrote:

Hate? Easy, child. Maybe paste over “pudgy” with “sub-optimally fit,” get stuck in a warm pile of Uncrustables and quit blubbering. The next time someone on these boards uses the phrase “Fat Kenny” in ref to Bekele, be sure to deliver a stern rebuke in that case as well.

Well, this is rich.

While you're trying to wax poetic and be esoteric, you come off as nothing more than a blithering idiot with your drivel.

Time to head back into mommy's basement, little guy.