Why is Letsrun considered toxic?

Harambe wrote:

I'm a pretty middle-of-the-road centrist with libertarian sympathies. I think there's a decent diversity of viewpoints here and that's good, but I also would not care if there were more aggressive moderation against:

1) personal attacks against public figures

2) overly racial discussion (too many threads on race+violence/intelligence)

3) sexism -- the post Huddle tweeted about was offensive, pointless, and not worth keeping up on the boards

4) blatant misinformation. We have like 10 threads a day claiming that vaccines kill people and don't work.

I will note that much of the most aggressive and insulting posting comes from right-wing posters, as well as most of the misinformation.

+1

Not to mention the brojos posting anonymously (and having admitted to doing so)… with the goal of stirring the hate-filled pot and attracting more clicks.

An example - a world class runner passed away and LR puts up a headline using an exclamation point. Just no class.

FredFlintstone wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

Of course Letsrun is toxic. You think you're just a bunch of regular guys while giving vent to every kind of prejudice.

You think you aren't a fully blooming hypocrite?

And you're just another "regular guy". But I do have a prejudice against bigotry - if that's what you're trying to say.

It's a little different than a message board for an industry where the people are more famous and distanced from their fans. Movie stars probably wouldn't be checking IMDB all the time as opposed to runners who have smaller fan bases. So they're likely to be hurt personally and complain more. It might not hurt for us to be more considerate of the people we're posting about as opposed to criticizing Anette Benning or Brad Pitt.

There does seem to be a little negativity with these "Goes home devastated" threads.

But I certainly don't hold the people who own LetsRun responsible for this. That is just not a proper understanding of how the internet works

No, I think the leftist objections to this website it’s mostly that opinions they opposes are allowed at all.

Mikeh33 wrote:

trollism wrote:

It's not your awful opinions that cause the big issues with the site.

It's the same characters using multiple handles to amplify the filth and that a good number of the moderation team (who for some unknown reason can't be named) also hold similar opinions and make use of the unregistered handle situation.

If it was just you guys using your own handles it wouldn't be an issue, particularly if there was a little more transparency as to who the mods are and what/why they're deleting things.

No, I think the leftist objections to this website it’s mostly that opinions they opposes are allowed at all.

It's not really this at all. (If I understood your remarkably illiterate statement correctly).

Your tears and crying come because you don't just want to be able to spout filth and abuse, you also want a safe space where nobody disagrees and nobody makes you feel bad about it.

If you're posting something and then a couple of tweets by a pro makes you feel bad about yourself, maybe there's a problem with what you're posting, not the individual calling you out.

It's a bit weird to me. You post awful stuff because you lack attention in the real world, but when you actually get some attention from it you start screaming and crying about 'the evil woke left' and 'cancel culture' despite the fact that nobody has been cancelled and you're still free to post filth tomorrow.

+1

very well said

this place is pretty incel and pretty fash. the people that can't grasp this are the incels and fashies, hence this thread. that would explain it.

ps...nothing "conservative" about conservatives any more...they became very radical during the 2000 election and have only become worse since then.

Imagine the sad, empty life of someone who spends all day on a running site they hate, and then makes the extra effort to lodge "official complaints" to the host. Of course these galactic losers would never start their own discussion forum for just their approved views. Cancer can't survive by itself. It has to live off a healthy host.

I think it says something about subjectivity when many people posting in this thread alone are claiming LRC and the message board are toxic due to a right-wing slant - to me (which is also subjective), all I see are people who're presumably "left-wing" complaining about something I'm not seeing in this thread. To me (again, subjective), I mostly see people whinging about the "toxicity" but then not leaving, repeatedly engaging, and then expecting the BroJos (who I don't agree with on a regular basis on my topics here) who make this site available for free to give into their demands.

Armstronglivs wrote:

FredFlintstone wrote:

You think you aren't a fully blooming hypocrite?

And you're just another "regular guy". But I do have a prejudice against bigotry - if that's what you're trying to say.

He is right.

You insult people all the time, sometimes just because they disagree with you.

I always see you use the rationale that discussion on the board is “just what you might talk about on a long run.”

Have you ever been on a long run with a black person and turned to them and said, “hey, do you think black people are less intelligent and that’s why they commit more crimes?” Or “do you think black fathers abandon their families and that’s why black people are violent,” or “Hey! Black Lives Matter are terrorists, right?” Because these are all topics that have been on this board and repeatedly appear in posts and threads.

I don’t think you would ever dare say this things on a run to a black person. Besides it being so far beyond the bounds of civility, I think you and every other white bro on this board would be scared of what would happen. I dare you in actual life to walk up to a group of black people and “just start an interesting conversation” about whether they’re animals. You would never.

So if you know it’s wrong in person then why is it fine on a message board? If you wouldn’t dare say it to a black person’s face on this mythical long run, what makes it cool and not cowardly and disgusting to foster spaces where people feel comfortable saying these things?

Nobody can stop you saying it, but your pretence that this is just idle conversation like people have all the time on runs either shows that you hang out with some seriously disturbing people in person, or that you simply refuse any responsibility for what you actually condone being said. And then accept that black people are not being unreasonable or sensitive or ridiculous to not enjoy being called unintelligent primitives.