rojo wrote:
Jonathan Gault talked to both Bekele's agent and coach to see what they thought about Bekele's prospects on Sunday. It's a must-read.
https://www.letsrun.com/news/2021/09/can-kenenisa-bekele-break-the-marathon-world-record-in-berlin-hes-in-perfect-shape-now-i-think-so-says-his-coach/
Looks too warm. It would need to be 50’s- low 60’s for the WR to be in contention. Good luck to Bekele at any rate.
Look at the humidity - 90 percent
Running Cult Member wrote:
Yawn. If I'm getting up that early I'm watching real sport, the ManU match, not some glorified time trial. Watching a guy hold pace for 2 hours is worse than cricket.
Well as ManU got beat today there's no point getting up to watch them tomorrow.
shine box(go get it) wrote:
rojo wrote:
Jonathan Gault talked to both Bekele's agent and coach to see what they thought about Bekele's prospects on Sunday. It's a must-read.
https://www.letsrun.com/news/2021/09/can-kenenisa-bekele-break-the-marathon-world-record-in-berlin-hes-in-perfect-shape-now-i-think-so-says-his-coach/Looks too warm. It would need to be 50’s- low 60’s for the WR to be in contention. Good luck to Bekele at any rate.
I think those are the called-for temps? 57° at 7 AM and 64° at 10. But, as was pointed out, >90% humidity. It might not be possible.
Random question xyz wrote:
shine box(go get it) wrote:
Looks too warm. It would need to be 50’s- low 60’s for the WR to be in contention. Good luck to Bekele at any rate.
I think those are the called-for temps? 57° at 7 AM and 64° at 10. But, as was pointed out, >90% humidity. It might not be possible.
Ok, I guess it starts around 9? If so they’ll end just after 11, projected to be ~67 then. I agree it might not be cool or dry enough.
shine box(go get it) wrote:
rojo wrote:
Jonathan Gault talked to both Bekele's agent and coach to see what they thought about Bekele's prospects on Sunday. It's a must-read.
https://www.letsrun.com/news/2021/09/can-kenenisa-bekele-break-the-marathon-world-record-in-berlin-hes-in-perfect-shape-now-i-think-so-says-his-coach/Looks too warm. It would need to be 50’s- low 60’s for the WR to be in contention. Good luck to Bekele at any rate.
But that’s the exact forecast, no? Low 60s at the finish. V little wind, not much cloud cover though.
9am: 61F, 91% humidity
11am: 67F, 75% humidity
I’ll pray to the humidity gods for mercy.
It's good to see his coach speak positively of him before a race. But the years are a factor that can't be avoided. I still think the world record is safe.
hobbyjogger1 wrote:
It's good to see his coach speak positively of him before a race. But the years are a factor that can't be avoided. I still think the world record is safe.
Just curious what workouts has he done that gives him, coach and agent this 100% bet on breaking the wr? It must be something, where is renato he would know what workout and time trial would indicate a for sure bet on the wr….
Cloud cover is the real key, and I don't think it will be cloudy enough. Anything could happen, but his coach saying he's in amazing shape means nothing to me.
runne wrote:
9am: 61F, 91% humidity
11am: 67F, 75% humidity
I’ll pray to the humidity gods for mercy.
If true, those are actually great conditions. Dew point is 58F only.
Hasn’t he did this before?? His people hype him up on how great of shape he is then he doesn’t even finish or chokes. Meh. A marathon is a lot like nascar but even less exciting. Paint dry type stuff here. Just watch the ending if anything.
Winner will be Hijikata of Japan.
bannned i got wrote:
hobbyjogger1 wrote:
It's good to see his coach speak positively of him before a race. But the years are a factor that can't be avoided. I still think the world record is safe.
Just curious what workouts has he done that gives him, coach and agent this 100% bet on breaking the wr? It must be something, where is renato he would know what workout and time trial would indicate a for sure bet on the wr….
The paces that should be done in training to run 2:01:30 are maxVO2 at 60-61 sec / 400m , Lactate threshold at 4:28 mile pace ( 2:45-2:46 min/ km ) and easy steady distance close to 5.40-5:55 mile pace ( 3:30 -3:40 min/ km ).
ConsistencyIsKing wrote:
In other words, he's gonna get dropped by some no name ethiopian/kenyan and drop out after 30k
aAdola, Marius kipserem, Eliud Kiptanui.
Bekele might not even finish.
Don't be surprised if he returns a 2:05.
SUPERIOR COACH JS wrote:
bannned i got wrote:
Just curious what workouts has he done that gives him, coach and agent this 100% bet on breaking the wr? It must be something, where is renato he would know what workout and time trial would indicate a for sure bet on the wr….
The paces that should be done in training to run 2:01:30 are maxVO2 at 60-61 sec / 400m , Lactate threshold at 4:28 mile pace ( 2:45-2:46 min/ km ) and easy steady distance close to 5.40-5:55 mile pace ( 3:30 -3:40 min/ km ).
thats not what i was asking lake superior jv coach.....i am asking WHAT workout or workouts has he done where himself, his coach and jos think the WR is a sure thing
like did he do a 35km time trial at your 4:28 pace, of 1:37:08, or a 40km time trial at say 4:30 pace in 1:51:51.....i mean he has had to do something that puts him well under the pace in a long time trial to make this prediction....and yes he looks lean and excited.....as if he knows he is going to smash it hard....go out in 61, come back in 60? come back in 59 high? like i wish jos and his coach would drop us some juice.
when Cheptegei said he was going for the WR in the 5k, his coach dropped three workouts that said it proved he would do it. i think it was 2000m repeats, 3000m repeats and maybe 1000m repeats all at altitude.
so lake michigan jv coach dont tell me some lame thing, tell me what YOU think was a workout that would predict a 2:01:25 or so....cause it seems like this is a publicity stunt or they all know he is going to destroy the record.
im going with a 30-40km time trial that was faster than WR pace and he was still fully in control and confident.
Sledge_Hammer wrote:
runne wrote:
9am: 61F, 91% humidity
11am: 67F, 75% humidity
I’ll pray to the humidity gods for mercy.
If true, those are actually great conditions. Dew point is 58F only.
9 am: 65f, 84% humidity, 11 am 69f, 59% humidity. lots of tall buildings and trees, lots of shade. that's okay.
As anyone got a legit stream for this?
runne wrote:
9am: 61F, 91% humidity
11am: 67F, 75% humidity
I’ll pray to the humidity gods for mercy.
Dew point is 55° THAT'S PERFECT.