BREAKING: DeSantis Saves Girls Sports in Florida!!

Lenny Leonard wrote:

wazzu1452 wrote:

It's the same reason you can't "identify" as intelligent.

Trans women, by definition from the Mayo Clinic, suffer from a M E N T A L disorder.

Here Einstein, read up on it.....

While some individuals manage to overcome symptoms of distress on their own, psychotherapy is often very helpful

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/conditions/gender-dysphoria

We don't have sporting classifications based on intelligence. I don't see how that is relevant.

Also, who cares if gender dysphoria is a mental disorder? So is anxiety. Over 40 million people in the US have some form of anxiety. Are you saying they should not be allowed to participate in sports?

No - What I am saying is that People who want to be another sex besides the one that their DNA says they are - these people are crazy! We should get them help so they can live their life with their appropriate sex in mind ( REALITY).

They should not participate in sports while pretending to be a sex they are not. Obviously.

Progressives are so weak.....

Armstronglivs wrote:

Lenny Leonard wrote:

I ran track in HS/College and have coached at the youth, HS, and adult levels. I have a USATF Level-2 certification.

I don’t care if it’s not a level playing field. No sport is a level playing field. Saying to a teenage girl, “You were born a boy, so either play boy’s sports or none at all,” is needlessly cruel.

Life is too short. Let people life their lives in their chosen gender and compete in that gender.

Your indifference to fairness is offensive to anyone who cares about sport. If you don't care about fairness then you won't care about doping, either. If you do, then you also a hypocrite.

I don't care about doping. Popular sports like football, baseball, and basketball don't, so why should track?

I love the sport. It is better when the best of the best compete. When people try to exclude the best, usually in an effort to have some white American or European win a race, it's not as interesting to me.

Really, my 5-year-old kid cries less about fairness than you people.

Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:

Let it Rupp wrote:

As far as I know, FIFA doesn't allow biological men to play in the women's division, so let's hear what they have to say after they are actually affected by these policies.

I don't think Argentina Football Association is violating any FIFA rule here.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/villa-san-carlos/story/4256557/mara-gomez-becomes-first-transgender-woman-to-play-football-in-argentina

Well, yeah, because AFA and FIFA are separate organizations. Gomez might not be allowed to play in FIFA events - I don't know, I don't pay attention to soccer.

Either way, I would still want to hear their opinions after they lose to a biological man.

wazzu1452 wrote:

Lenny Leonard wrote:

We don't have sporting classifications based on intelligence. I don't see how that is relevant.

Also, who cares if gender dysphoria is a mental disorder? So is anxiety. Over 40 million people in the US have some form of anxiety. Are you saying they should not be allowed to participate in sports?

No - What I am saying is that People who want to be another sex besides the one that their DNA says they are - these people are crazy! We should get them help so they can live their life with their appropriate sex in mind ( REALITY).

They should not participate in sports while pretending to be a sex they are not. Obviously.

Progressives are so weak.....

So this is the conservative argument? Not only should transgender people not be allowed to play sports, but we should convert them back to their birth gender and have them live their singular life in that way?

Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:

Who Is This wrote:

I'm confused. What did they say about this issue?

(Full disclosure, my family has been with friends with the Krieger family for over 20 years now)

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10001076-ashlyn-harris-ali-krieger-call-for-support-of-transgender-athletes-at-glaad-awards

Clearly, they wouldn't mind losing to a team that includes male athletes.

Let it Rupp wrote:

Well, yeah, because AFA and FIFA are separate organizations. Gomez might not be allowed to play in FIFA events - I don't know, I don't pay attention to soccer.

AFA, just like every other national governing body of soccer, is a FIFA member.

Based on your line of argument, ACC and NCAA will be "separate organizations."

Armstronglivs wrote:

Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10001076-ashlyn-harris-ali-krieger-call-for-support-of-transgender-athletes-at-glaad-awards

Clearly, they wouldn't mind losing to a team that includes male athletes.

And what's your problem with that?

Are you one of those men who believe they know better about what's best for women than women themselves? Why are you so patronizing?

Lenny Leonard wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

Your indifference to fairness is offensive to anyone who cares about sport. If you don't care about fairness then you won't care about doping, either. If you do, then you also a hypocrite.

I don't care about doping. Popular sports like football, baseball, and basketball don't, so why should track?

I love the sport. It is better when the best of the best compete. When people try to exclude the best, usually in an effort to have some white American or European win a race, it's not as interesting to me.

Really, my 5-year-old kid cries less about fairness than you people.

Citing the opinion of a 5 year old puts your argument in its true perspective.

You "love sport". But you don't care if it is fair or not. Cheats will certainly prosper if you were to have your way. You don't care if there are competitors who win because they dope. Yet in the other apparently disconnected half of your brain you think it is wrong to "exclude the best" from sports - when they may only be the best because they cheat. Or because they are males competing against women.

You are either telling us you are a cheat or you don't mind losing to one.

wazzu1452 wrote:

Being Trans is a sign that you are suffering from a mental disorder - obviously.

If you have a penis - but think you are a woman (and visa versa)

You are bat sh*t crazy. Period.

Just another group affiliated with the "I am a victim" party........

On the left, victimhood is a prime source of authority, and discourse revolves around establishing one’s intersectional credentials and detailing stories of mistreatment that reinforce them,” Chait wrote last month in New York magazine. “Within the ecosystem of the left, demonstrating that you have suffered harassment or microaggressions is a big win.”

https://newrepublic.com/article/148308/centrist-grievance-victim-politics

Conservatives: "we have no authentic identity of our own so look between our legs for meaning and what roles we should take in society. Anyone who refuses to think otherwise is crazy!"

Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

Clearly, they wouldn't mind losing to a team that includes male athletes.

And what's your problem with that?

Are you one of those men who believe they know better about what's best for women than women themselves? Why are you so patronizing?

I wouldn't be surprised if there were women who didnt share their apparent indifference to losing to males. I don't hear from women that women's sport as a protected category has had its day and should now be open to all-comers. For those who are professional, like Harris and Krieger, that would be the end of their careers.

Armstronglivs wrote:

Citing the opinion of a 5 year old puts your argument in its true perspective.

You "love sport". But you don't care if it is fair or not. Cheats will certainly prosper if you were to have your way. You don't care if there are competitors who win because they dope. Yet in the other apparently disconnected half of your brain you think it is wrong to "exclude the best" from sports - when they may only be the best because they cheat. Or because they are males competing against women.

You are either telling us you are a cheat or you don't mind losing to one.

I'm not a cheat, but I wouldn't mind losing to one. What is "cheating" anyway? As long as someone is not hitting someone with a foreign object during a race, I don't care what vitamins they take.

You only dig your whole deeper.

You clearly don’t care about track or sports in general

Hole

This is the only post that gets what is going on. Trollism 2024

Armstrong, you are part of the 62%...

I know it and you know it.

wazzu1452 wrote:

These people are crazy!

Interesting. I feel the same about people who aggressively post 30 times a day about politics and gender on an anonymous running message board.

Do you believe your behavior is “normal”? (Rhetorical question BTW)

We know that Florida was cooking the books. The data scientist just won a victory in the ongoing legal battle. We also know that California had much more virus coming in under the radar in February/early March before the state knew it was there than Florida or Texas. Cali, recall, has a lot of trans-pacific traffic. And ultimately, California's excess death rate was still much lower than Texas or Florida. Florida did a terrible job of it. DeSantis did almost everything wrong.

Wow, I had no idea you were that indoctrinated.

runnerboy70 wrote:

Armstrong, you are part of the 62%...

I know it and you know it.

Actually, I am part of the percent you will never be near. I know it and you know it.