Most likely barrier to be broken? 1:40 800m 3:40 mile 12:30 5k 26:00 10k

Bad Wigins wrote:

Sub 26 is the most breakable. Everyone who has been near the current WR could realistically have gotten there if they'd went for it.

12:30 is not possible without some amazing new drugs and officials looking the other way. (There may be some, if recent performances are any indication, but they're not looking that good just yet)

3:40 will never happen. Probably not possible and nobody's trying. Everyone who gets near 3:26, which isn't close to 3:40, gets busted for doping.

But the sub -100 800 is the hardest barrier of them all. At 8 m/s, even with a draft, the drag forces are too great and sap too much power to get back around in sub 50, unless you went out in well over 50.

Agreed a runner in 12:42 shape could likely run 12:57 and 13:02 splits

Running sub 1:40 requires enormous amounts of steroids.

KT1 wrote:

You use inconsistent logic. No one has been anywhere near 3:40 ever!!! Yet some guy ran .9 seconds away from 1:40 and you think it’s the least likely?

You're oversimplifying the statement; these aren't equivalent events, and not just because of the difference in distance.

What people don't seem to get is that at 800m elite speeds - about 1 m/s faster than elite mile speeds - drag forces are far more significant. It takes too much energy to run a sub 50 to have any chance of following it up with another one. And negative splitting is out of the question.

Countless times they've gone out in 49 something with a pacesetter. The vast majority of those times they blow up or get back around in at best a respectable 53. A very few times someone got back around in 51 something. Nobody's been close to following up a 49 with a 50.

Lots of times they've gone out in 48. None of those times has resulted in a top performance. The line is very clear, well defined, the pacing has only a couple tenths of a second margin. That .91 seconds is an eternity.

Subway Surfers wrote:

Bad Wigins wrote:

Sub 26 is the most breakable. Everyone who has been near the current WR could realistically have gotten there if they'd went for it.

12:30 is not possible without some amazing new drugs and officials looking the other way. (There may be some, if recent performances are any indication, but they're not looking that good just yet)

3:40 will never happen. Probably not possible and nobody's trying. Everyone who gets near 3:26, which isn't close to 3:40, gets busted for doping.

But the sub -100 800 is the hardest barrier of them all. At 8 m/s, even with a draft, the drag forces are too great and sap too much power to get back around in sub 50, unless you went out in well over 50.

Agreed a runner in 12:42 shape could likely run 12:57 and 13:02 splits

Running sub 1:40 requires enormous amounts of steroids.

No drugs necessary.

Sub-1:40 800m would have to be produced by a sub-46 400m man, a legit F.A.T. sub-46 man. Most legit sub-46 400m men are fast enough 400m athletes to make their nation's 4 x 400m relay. If more athletes with F.A.T. sub-46 400m potential, trained also for 800m, then possibly, a sub-1:40 800m. After watching David Rudisha 8 years ago, most on here then thought sub-1:40 was possible. It's still possible, but highly difficult.