Gary, you can cite one example of a few scuffles and some shouting. And from that draw the conclusion that right wingers are being violently repressed. Seriously? One example. Where no speech was repressed, and no violence other than some scuffles, and where the police said things were fine and nothing needed to be cancelled...expands into a generality of nationwide jackbooted lefties threatening you with violence.
It's absurd. Come on. Have some responsibility for what you write.
And I'll throw it back to you. Anti-trump people were violently assaulted at several trump rallies. Trump encouraged them to do it. Said he'd pay their legal bills even. But I'm not saying that right wingers are violently restricting lefty speech. It's not happening.
Grow up. Speech is free. But you will be criticized if you are being stupid. That's not violent - that's how it's supposed to work.
eric a blair wrote:
alex hamilton on trump. He nailed it.
https://twitter.com/peterdaou/status/883137928444203008
I'd really like one trumper to talk about this and deny Ham was warning the nation about people like Trump.
Give me your case.
eric a blair wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:^
Exhibit A
enlighten me
with examples
Ok, agip. Here are a few examples of libs getting violent and/or suppressing GOP speech.
Berkeley Riot- Milo speech
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/01/us/milo-yiannopoulos-berkeley/index.htmlMiddlebury College- Charles Murray speech
ttps://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/03/middlebury-free-speech-violence/518667/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6EASuhefeIPortland- Roses Parade
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/apr/26/portland-parade-cancelled-amid-threats-republician/Trump supporter beat up- El Cajon, CA
http://heavy.com/news/2016/09/el-cajon-protesters-donald-trump-supporter-beaten-beat-attacked-chased-video-bottles-colin-kaepernick-you-tube-periscope/Trump supporter attacked- Meriden, CT
http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/2-Men-Attack-Trump-Supporter-in-Meriden-Police-400947415.htmlWoman- eggs thrown in her face San Jose, CA
http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-trailguide-updates-woman-egged-at-trump-s-san-jose-rally-1468771578-htmlstory.htmleric a blair wrote:
Gary, you can cite one example of a few scuffles and some shouting. And from that draw the conclusion that right wingers are being violently repressed. Seriously? One example. Where no speech was repressed, and no violence other than some scuffles, and where the police said things were fine and nothing needed to be cancelled...expands into a generality of nationwide jackbooted lefties threatening you with violence.
It's absurd. Come on. Have some responsibility for what you write.
And I'll throw it back to you. Anti-trump people were violently assaulted at several trump rallies. Trump encouraged them to do it. Said he'd pay their legal bills even. But I'm not saying that right wingers are violently restricting lefty speech. It's not happening.
Grow up. Speech is free. But you will be criticized if you are being stupid. That's not violent - that's how it's supposed to work.
I can list more if want, agip. You flagpoled, again.
Violent idiots come in all stripes.
Jeff Wigand wrote:
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/07/07/trump-handed-putin-a-stunning-victory-215353
This was a very interesting article. Trump and Putin agree not to interfere with each others elections. This seems to imply the Russian interference is no different than ours. Our intelligence agencies see it very differently.
I think Trump is in over his head. Putin is a man who has subverted the democratic process and has basically assumed dictatorial powers. The free media in Russia has been shut down. The man is a master manipulator who lies more than Trump.
Putin has effectively put a wedge in the cohesiveness of NATO which has been a long standing goal of his.
You think Trump is in over his head? Wow, does the intelligence agencies know about you? They really need your expertise in so many areas that it would really make a huge difference in how our country is being run. You're like, amazing!!!!
Conundrum wrote:
Jeff Wigand wrote:http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/07/07/trump-handed-putin-a-stunning-victory-215353This was a very interesting article. Trump and Putin agree not to interfere with each others elections. This seems to imply the Russian interference is no different than ours. Our intelligence agencies see it very differently.
I think Trump is in over his head. Putin is a man who has subverted the democratic process and has basically assumed dictatorial powers. The free media in Russia has been shut down. The man is a master manipulator who lies more than Trump.
Putin has effectively put a wedge in the cohesiveness of NATO which has been a long standing goal of his.
All this means is that Trump is divisive. He has no ability to bring people together. He operates on divide and conquer
all this means is that you don't know what you're talking about. why didn't you run for president?
Phife wrote:
All this means is that Trump is divisive. He has no ability to bring people together. He operates on divide and conquer
security77secured now wrote:
You think Trump is in over his head? Wow, does the intelligence agencies know about you? They really need your expertise in so many areas that it would really make a huge difference in how our country is being run. You're like, amazing!!!!
Conundrum wrote:This was a very interesting article. Trump and Putin agree not to interfere with each others elections. This seems to imply the Russian interference is no different than ours. Our intelligence agencies see it very differently.
I think Trump is in over his head. Putin is a man who has subverted the democratic process and has basically assumed dictatorial powers. The free media in Russia has been shut down. The man is a master manipulator who lies more than Trump.
Putin has effectively put a wedge in the cohesiveness of NATO which has been a long standing goal of his.
Actually, the intelligence agencies are well aware that Trump is in over his head. So there really wouldn't be a need to hire Jeff.
Well actually, they're not. You believe in Fake News, don't ya? You and Jeff should get a room as Trump is here to stay, OUCH!!!!!!!!!! Clinton and Obama should have both lost their political positions but Obama's RACE protected him as did Clinton's gender. And btw, the intelligence agencies knew that they were both in over their heads.
Well Actually wrote:
security77secured now wrote:You think Trump is in over his head? Wow, does the intelligence agencies know about you? They really need your expertise in so many areas that it would really make a huge difference in how our country is being run. You're like, amazing!!!!
Actually, the intelligence agencies are well aware that Trump is in over his head. So there really wouldn't be a need to hire Jeff.
99 bottles of soda on the wall wrote:
all this means is that you don't know what you're talking about. why didn't you run for president?
Phife wrote:All this means is that Trump is divisive. He has no ability to bring people together. He operates on divide and conquer
Yeah, "Knock the crap out of them" definitely sounds like the language of someone who brings people together . . .
Well, at least "Knock the crap out of them" sounds like an adult speaking . . .
Ummm . . . well, at least "Knock the crap out of them" sounds like a 6th grader with a very bad upbringing. That's pretty good, right? I mean, it certainly meets the standard of what we would expect of the leader of the free world, right?
Right?
as the records stands wrote:
Well actually, they're not. You believe in Fake News, don't ya? You and Jeff should get a room as Trump is here to stay, OUCH!!!!!!!!!! Clinton and Obama should have both lost their political positions but Obama's RACE protected him as did Clinton's gender. And btw, the intelligence agencies knew that they were both in over their heads.
Well Actually wrote:Actually, the intelligence agencies are well aware that Trump is in over his head. So there really wouldn't be a need to hire Jeff.
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Good one. Who let you in on that little secret about the "Fake News"? Was it your Dear Leader?
America has had a long tradition of valuing not only freedom of the press but of the important role of the media in our democracy. Trump has denigrated this important institution on the national stage. His is attacking a basic pillar of our democracy. It seems contrary to an important American value.
Trumps repeated sweeping generalization of the media as "fake" is not only a lie but it's technically slanderous. Even if some stories were wrong there is no way it would be accurate to say it's fake. Letsrun does running news and on occasion have gotten facts wrong is it also fake news? Is it only fake news when it is critical of trump or presents information he does not want out in public. Some media have a conservative slant others a liberal slant that does not make them fake.
This is very convenient for trump to proactively dismiss information that he does not want to address. He frequently falls back on his constant mantra of "fake news". Trump has done everything in his power to impugn this pillar of our democracy. He wants to prevent people from knowing true facts.
It's a dangerous precident. It's also embarrassing when he chooses the international stage to attack an American institution.
Yes, like Hillary saying "super predator and whites are supreme". Kinda like that, right? Watch the video old man and learn. Your hypocrisy is over the edge, even for someone as far left as you.
Well Actually wrote:
99 bottles of soda on the wall wrote:all this means is that you don't know what you're talking about. why didn't you run for president?
Yeah, "Knock the crap out of them" definitely sounds like the language of someone who brings people together . . .
Well, at least "Knock the crap out of them" sounds like an adult speaking . . .
Ummm . . . well, at least "Knock the crap out of them" sounds like a 6th grader with a very bad upbringing. That's pretty good, right? I mean, it certainly meets the standard of what we would expect of the leader of the free world, right?
Right?
Falling back on the mantra of Fake News, like Clinton did after losing? Wow, how ironic when the shoe is on the other foot, or in your mouth, ha, ha, ha!!!!!!!!!!!!
Conundrum wrote:
America has had a long tradition of valuing not only freedom of the press but of the important role of the media in our democracy. Trump has denigrated this important institution on the national stage. His is attacking a basic pillar of our democracy. It seems contrary to an important American value.
Trumps repeated sweeping generalization of the media as "fake" is not only a lie but it's technically slanderous. Even if some stories were wrong there is no way it would be accurate to say it's fake. Letsrun does running news and on occasion have gotten facts wrong is it also fake news? Is it only fake news when it is critical of trump or presents information he does not want out in public. Some media have a conservative slant others a liberal slant that does not make them fake.
This is very convenient for trump to proactively dismiss information that he does not want to address. He frequently falls back on his constant mantra of "fake news". Trump has done everything in his power to impugn this pillar of our democracy. He wants to prevent people from knowing true facts.
It's a dangerous precident. It's also embarrassing when he chooses the international stage to attack an American institution.
They will not reply to the truth, nor will they look at the Clinton video. They are pissed off that she lost and he won. Trust me, they'll have to get over it, we had 8 years of Barack Obama.
Plorabs wrote:
Yes, like Hillary saying "super predator and whites are supreme". Kinda like that, right? Watch the video old man and learn. Your hypocrisy is over the edge, even for someone as far left as you.
Well Actually wrote:Yeah, "Knock the crap out of them" definitely sounds like the language of someone who brings people together . . .
Well, at least "Knock the crap out of them" sounds like an adult speaking . . .
Ummm . . . well, at least "Knock the crap out of them" sounds like a 6th grader with a very bad upbringing. That's pretty good, right? I mean, it certainly meets the standard of what we would expect of the leader of the free world, right?
Right?
Hillary Clinton was way worse than Obama and Obama was bad as he clearly lied big time to get elected, but she was still worse to a far different degree!
Right? Again? wrote:
They will not reply to the truth, nor will they look at the Clinton video. They are pissed off that she lost and he won.
Is this November 7, 2016? No. The world has moved on. We now have a man who will be made a Saint heading the House majority, who has never lied. Not once! And a Dear Leader who has never told a lie, has never manufactured fake news. Not once!
Can we move on from this topic? There are no saints in politics. No such thing as unbiased news that anyone wants to watch/read. And a clown for a President. The best clown, but still a clown.
