David Epstein/Pro Publica/BBC Story: Former Team Members Accuse Famed Coach Alberto Salazar of Breaking Drug Rules

The reason to involve the FBI is that can review bank records, and sending drugs clandestinely through the mail is a Federal offense. Salazar will have to explain where he got the prescription drugs he handed out to athletes.

coach d wrote:

The next shoe just dropped. WADA is asking the FBI to investigate Salazar:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-3111567/Anti-doping-chief-calls-FBI-probe-Mo-Farah-coach-Alberto-Salazar.html

THROW THE BA$TARD IN JAIL!

Also, giving a prescription medicine to someone without a prescription is a felony in most, if not all, states. Giving testosterone to a 16-year-old may also be questionable.

Is this about to become BALCO II?

coach d wrote:

Also, giving a prescription medicine to someone without a prescription is a felony in most, if not all, states. Giving testosterone to a 16-year-old may also be questionable.

Is this about to become BALCO II?

Naah. A Duck is going to call his friend Alberto and get the real story for us.

All these anecdotes about the performance-enhancing effects of prednisone are hilarious.

Stay beautiful, my highly suggestible friends.

I wonder if Salazar cordoned off Osako from the PED lab. I don't expect Japanese to get involved with cheating and bring shame to his country. They kill themselves over things like this.

The Geomathematician wrote:

All these anecdotes about the performance-enhancing effects of prednisone are hilarious.

Stay beautiful, my highly suggestible friends.

I'll take WADA and its ban on use of any amount of prednisone, over your NOP fanboy claim that "it doesn't work."

What I love is seeing how the British press, and other British elite runners, handle the Mo Farah side of the matter. They have to dance around the subject for fear of legal repercussions. So everything is along the lines of, Mo Farah should distance himself from the unethical Salazar! It's just funny because the implication is that Farah himself is as pure as snow, and just happens to be saddled with an unethical coach. But of course, Salazar hasn't done anything unethical with regards to Farah, oh no. While others were getting illegal pills and prescriptions and whatever else, Salazar used straightforward, legal methods to turn Farah from perennial also-ran into one of the most unbeatable distance runners ever. Rupp got prednisone, thyroxine, testosterone, and who knows what else. Salazar's prescription for Farah: start doing push-ups!

What a fvcking joke. I mean, if you really believe Farah remained clean in that dirty environment, why be so adamant that he leave? He obviously holds himself to impeccably high moral and ethical standards, and he is in fact thriving there like almost nobody has ever thrived before; why mess with a good thing?

EPO is my middle name wrote:

A total of 130,000 attended these races at the Polo Grounds in New York City.

I think the accompanying gambling and drinking had a lot to do with the popularity of the sport back then.

exthrower wrote:

Please quote me ONE scientific paper that alleges an athletic benefit to taking Prednisone....The reverse is actually true, it has serious side effects that harm physical activity.

From 2009:

"These data indicate that short-term glucocorticoid intake improved endurance performance in women, but further investigation is needed to determine whether these results are applicable to elite female athletes and, if so, current WADA legislation needs to be changed."

From 2007:

"From these data, short-term prednisolone intake did appear to significantly improve performance during submaximal exercise with concomitant alteration in hormonal and metabolic responses."

(Prednisolone is the biologically active product of prednisone metabolism by the liver.)

From 1996:

"We conclude that prednisone, given in an appropriate dose, protects muscle fibres against the development of mechanically induced damage, possibly by stabilizing the muscle fibre membranes."

There's probably a reason WADA has prednisone on its in-competition banned substances list.

The situation with prednisone is fairly simple. High doses are well-known to cause euphoria, extra energy, and a heightened sense of physical well-being. In the susceptible, it could precipitate a full-blown mania like bipolar people have. You see this when working the psychiatry rotation that provides services to the general medical part of the hospital.

Riverdale Runner wrote:

I think the accompanying gambling and drinking had a lot to do with the popularity of the sport back then.

Ever heard of the beer mile? That involves drinking.

Ever bet someone you could out race them? That involves gambling.

Riverdale Runner wrote:

EPO is my middle name wrote:

A total of 130,000 attended these races at the Polo Grounds in New York City.

I think the accompanying gambling and drinking had a lot to do with the popularity of the sport back then.

And that's exactly what the sport needs today, drinking and gambling at track meets. You go to the meet, and grab a cocktail and a copy of the Daily Racing Form. You look at the athlete's workout times, past race results, what medications they are on, TUES granted and the odds and you place your bets. Think track's popularity would increase ?

Deadman Running wrote:

Riverdale Runner wrote:

I think the accompanying gambling and drinking had a lot to do with the popularity of the sport back then.

And that's exactly what the sport needs today, drinking and gambling at track meets. You go to the meet, and grab a cocktail and a copy of the Daily Racing Form. You look at the athlete's workout times, past race results, what medications they are on, TUES granted and the odds and you place your bets. Think track's popularity would increase ?

Yes.

Yes indeedy.

Deadman Running wrote:

Riverdale Runner wrote:

I think the accompanying gambling and drinking had a lot to do with the popularity of the sport back then.

And that's exactly what the sport needs today, drinking and gambling at track meets. You go to the meet, and grab a cocktail and a copy of the Daily Racing Form. You look at the athlete's workout times, past race results, what medications they are on, TUES granted and the odds and you place your bets. Think track's popularity would increase ?

This actually sounds like a lot of fun.

See EPO! Darth Vader to the rescue! its not about good an evil its about track and field as a sport, Beyond what any one individual ( and they're low MPW or weak bench press) can give them. Its about what we can give the sport and make it ascend to the glory it deserves. The absolute height of competition. "Hey i bet i can run faster than you" "Prove it". No rules, no Holds barred, (except holds...we're racing jumping and throwing after all) And letting the whole town(country/world) watch. But hey if we're still gonna debate who is taking what as if our feelings are hurt, and regardless of what genetics and sunlight can tell, we'd all be super stars if it weren't for those damned PED's. Have at it.

Ever seen a 50ml syringe? The WADA allowable IV use 4x per day. Prepare yourself.http://i.ytimg.com/vi/4-FfWHxLznc/maxresdefault.jpg

Deadman Running wrote:

Riverdale Runner wrote:

I think the accompanying gambling and drinking had a lot to do with the popularity of the sport back then.

And that's exactly what the sport needs today, drinking and gambling at track meets. You go to the meet, and grab a cocktail and a copy of the Daily Racing Form. You look at the athlete's workout times, past race results, what medications they are on, TUES granted and the odds and you place your bets. Think track's popularity would increase ?

I think you are likely wrong, but I have nothing but respect for you. And I believe that you have coached many clean athletes.

Ritz Raff wrote:

So what's the verdict?

are you responding to my post or the thread at large?

Funny how they mention that Mo Farah is not suspected of breaking any doping rules. Geee, they are all together in this.