But if you want more daily soap, go to the current altitude thread. Rek + Khamis + Army are trolling each other there like crazy. I just browsed it and couldn't stop laughing.
Banning Kenya in the midst of so many cheaters being caught there would only provide an incentive for countries to NOT catch cheaters. It would be better to mandate even greater testing of Kenyan athletes.
Yes and this is what is happening. Most of the athlete busts are outside of the 80th percentile and up of Kenyan runners. These athletes would not be tested out of competition if not for the ramped-up testing for both Kenyans and Road Runners that has happened the last few years. It's good to ban these cheaters for not only getting them from winning money over athletes who need it at these B or C-level events, but also acting as a deterrent for the higher-profile athletes who we really would like to ensure are clean and have much more to lose.
What would a ban accomplish? -Ban innocent athletes who aren't doping -Create a Wild West situation with no testing and incentives to create undetectable doping products while the ban lasts -Set back and pause education/outreach efforts that might be much more effective long-term than mass punishment
I don't get it about your attitude in this site. Clearly you are playing a double faced role in this site.
- every Kenyan who has won some race is a cheater is more likely than
- not every Kenyan who has won some race is a cheater
this?
Completely nonsense.
The percentage of doping Kenyans is not a matter of my - or someone else's - opinion.
Way too many variables just to guess - 20%? 80%?
You forgot your own question and its context. Let's recap:
Me: "Any Kenyan who wins a race of importance is likely a cheater." You: "How likely?"
Me: "More likely than not." That means that more Kenyan winners of important races are dopers than clean, i.e. over 50% of them.
In the end, you say "The percentage of doping Kenyans is not a matter of my - or someone else's - opinion. Way too many variables just to guess", but then you asked me such questions like "how likely"? That makes no sense.
I haven't forgotten anything here.
What exactly do you want to say? That it's more likely that ANY Kenyan who wins a race of importance is likely a cheater is more likely than the opposite, that there is some Kenyan who wins a race of some importance who is not a cheater?
You are not certain for any one of the group of those Kenyan winners to be a cheater or not. But you think it's likely that all of them are cheaters?
But I'm talking here to someone who doesn't have any problem with someone who gives an unbelievable statement like:
ANY Kenyan who wins a race of importance IS a cheater. He states it as a pure fact. But also this terrible human isn't certain for any individual Kenyan to be a cheater or not.
Sorry, but all the posters like you are just stupid. It's worthless to discus something with you, you won't understand it anyway.
- every Kenyan who has won some race is a cheater is more likely than
- not every Kenyan who has won some race is a cheater
this?
Completely nonsense.
The percentage of doping Kenyans is not a matter of my - or someone else's - opinion.
Way too many variables just to guess - 20%? 80%?
You forgot your own question and its context. Let's recap:
Me: "Any Kenyan who wins a race of importance is likely a cheater." You: "How likely?"
Me: "More likely than not." That means that more Kenyan winners of important races are dopers than clean, i.e. over 50% of them.
In the end, you say "The percentage of doping Kenyans is not a matter of my - or someone else's - opinion. Way too many variables just to guess", but then you asked me such questions like "how likely"? That makes no sense.
I see you are trying to reason with a casuist.
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But if you want more daily soap, go to the current altitude thread. Rek + Khamis + Army are trolling each other there like crazy. I just browsed it and couldn't stop laughing.
It is always a waste of time to argue against doping deniers. At best it is exercise - like working out on a punch bag.
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You forgot your own question and its context. Let's recap:
Me: "Any Kenyan who wins a race of importance is likely a cheater." You: "How likely?"
Me: "More likely than not." That means that more Kenyan winners of important races are dopers than clean, i.e. over 50% of them.
In the end, you say "The percentage of doping Kenyans is not a matter of my - or someone else's - opinion. Way too many variables just to guess", but then you asked me such questions like "how likely"? That makes no sense.
I haven't forgotten anything here.
What exactly do you want to say? That it's more likely that ANY Kenyan who wins a race of importance is likely a cheater is more likely than the opposite, that there is some Kenyan who wins a race of some importance who is not a cheater?
You are not certain for any one of the group of those Kenyan winners to be a cheater or not. But you think it's likely that all of them are cheaters?
But I'm talking here to someone who doesn't have any problem with someone who gives an unbelievable statement like:
ANY Kenyan who wins a race of importance IS a cheater. He states it as a pure fact. But also this terrible human isn't certain for any individual Kenyan to be a cheater or not.
Sorry, but all the posters like you are just stupid. It's worthless to discus something with you, you won't understand it anyway.
This is such desperate drivel. We all know what what Kenyan sport is but some of you just don't want to see it. Sad.
Is this the new rekrunner? Like I'm just trying to keep up with my daily soap here.
I couldn't imagine being this mad about what Armstrong posts about doping, it's amazing.
He has been doing this for at least a couple of years. He nearly always chooses throw-away handles of 5 or 6 random letters, although sometimes has the courage to post under a more regular unregistered account of 'Hoad' or some similar variation.
He has some kind of fetish regarding Kenyans being natural born runners. He believes, with a kind of religious mania, that they are on another level to every other country because they have no Neanderthal DNA, no concept of time, and have had no exposure to 5G growing up.
Is this the new rekrunner? Like I'm just trying to keep up with my daily soap here.
I couldn't imagine being this mad about what Armstrong posts about doping, it's amazing.
He has been doing this for at least a couple of years. He nearly always chooses throw-away handles of 5 or 6 random letters, although sometimes has the courage to post under a more regular unregistered account of 'Hoad' or some similar variation.
He has some kind of fetish regarding Kenyans being natural born runners. He believes, with a kind of religious mania, that they are on another level to every other country because they have no Neanderthal DNA, no concept of time, and have had no exposure to 5G growing up.
Just to be clear, you're talking about an unregistered user, not me.
What exactly do you want to say? That it's more likely that ANY Kenyan who wins a race of importance is likely a cheater is more likely than the opposite, that there is some Kenyan who wins a race of some importance who is not a cheater?
Last try.
As I already said:
That means that more Kenyan winners of important races are dopers than clean, i.e. over 50% of them.
Is that really so hard to understand?
Next then you repeated the same question again:
You are not certain for any one of the group of those Kenyan winners to be a cheater or not. But you think it's likely that all of them are cheaters?
Asked and answered. No I do not. See above, or my original post on the previous page.
Moving on, then you started lying about me:
But I'm talking here to someone who doesn't have any problem with someone who gives an unbelievable statement like:
Moving on, then you started insulting me:
Sorry, but all the posters like you are just stupid. It's worthless to discus something with you, you won't understand it anyway.
You of course haven't discussed anything with me. As demonstrated, just questions, lies, and insults from you, plus your denial to answer my questions. What is wrong with you?