The article was initially entiteld, "Zane Robertston!!!!" but we changed it to make it more descriptive. Here is our article on his bust and fake excuses (he said he went to a hospital for a COvid-19 vaccine but they gave him EPO instead) which points out that in 2016 he expressed frutation at the amount of doping in the sport:
Can't you see this isn't just a one-off failure but permeates all your posts on all topics? You don't back them up with sources, because you cannot even use a search function.
Maybe this explains why you come across as both uninformed and gullible -- you cannot find out information for yourself, so you rely on others to do your homework, and then tell you what they found and what it means, and you believe what you are told because you don't really know otherwise.
How can you fail so badly to know which records were set in the 1960s and 1970s, for months even after you were given all the information, and then pretend you are old enough to be an expert on that era, because you lived it? It's just no credible. It never was.
You aren't self aware to realise that your responses here are merely a tantrum. I don't argue with a tantrum.
You make it sound like you are choosing not to argue. You cannot argue without the ability to inform yourself of basic facts.
So much obsession with how many world records Kenyans set before 1980. (...) what a fatuous and irrelevant point it is.
And yet you spent days asking for the names of those Kenyan record breakers.
Sigh. Because the likes of you and the other Lilliputians were insisting there were so many but wouldn't say who they were or acknowledge there were so few amongst the listed events between the 800m and the marathon. As I have since pointed out, there were more from a far smaller country between 1961-76. All this has added nothing to the central issue of why Kenya has become one of the worst dopers in the sport - which you all duck with this pointless deflection.
And yet you spent days asking for the names of those Kenyan record breakers.
And he had the names already back in January! He simply needed to search his memory, or the internet, and he failed colossally at both.
I asked for the Kenyan record-breakers against the events listed from the 800m to the marathon. You all refused because there were so few. As I have pointed out, NZ had more world-records and record breakers between 1961-76, so it was a pointless ditch for you to die in. It is also utterly irrelevant to the present situation, in which we see Kenya a world leader for doping in distance running. But since your life is lived entirely inside your internet bubble you see none of this.
And yet you spent days asking for the names of those Kenyan record breakers.
Sigh. Because the likes of you and the other Lilliputians were insisting there were so many but wouldn't say who they were or acknowledge there were so few amongst the listed events between the 800m and the marathon. As I have since pointed out, there were more from a far smaller country between 1961-76. All this has added nothing to the central issue of why Kenya has become one of the worst dopers in the sport - which you all duck with this pointless deflection.
Kenya has had the most WRs in the period 1964 - 1979, a fact which you denied for months.
If New Zealand has had more WRs than this in another period (they hadn't) obviously wouldn't change this fact.
It took you 4 months to learn about Henry Rono, and you were completely unable to find two 10000m WRs. Yet you could find a 1000y indoor record very fast. I really would like to know how many 1000y indoor races by top runners ever were run. Snell's record was 2:17.8 1000m pace for 914.4 meters.
Completely irrelevant for the subject, but New Zealand has had 8 WRs in the period 1961 - 1976 (9 if you really want to add the 3 Miles).
I don't want to denigrate NZs running success in these days in any way, they have had great runners, including all-time greats.
But all your nonsense should not stand uncommented.
And he had the names already back in January! He simply needed to search his memory, or the internet, and he failed colossally at both.
I asked for the Kenyan record-breakers against the events listed from the 800m to the marathon. You all refused because there were so few. As I have pointed out, NZ had more world-records and record breakers between 1961-76, so it was a pointless ditch for you to die in. It is also utterly irrelevant to the present situation, in which we see Kenya a world leader for doping in distance running. But since your life is lived entirely inside your internet bubble you see none of this.
More flapping like a fish.
You denied an easily verifiable fact for months, a fact I predicted you couldn't verify on your own, even after you had the precise information you ask for back in January. That prediction came true.
This thread is not about Kenyan doping, but about New Zealand doping -- are you suggesting that New Zealand doped in 1961-76? Because that would at least be on topic.
You don't know any math because you can't count any Kenyan dopers. All you see are the countless Kenyan "world record holders".
For the Kenyan dopers in 2023 so far you are probably wrong by around 400%.
Let's try to count the male Kenyan WR setters:
David Rudisha Wilson Kipketer (for Denmark) Noah Ngeny Kipchoge Keino Henry Rono Moses Kiptanui Daniel Komen Samson Kimobwa Richard Chelimo Yobes Ondieki William Sigei Paul Tergat Ben Jipcho Peter Koech Wilson B. Kipketer Bernard Barmasai Stephen Cherono (SSS, for Quatar) Joseph Kimani Sammy Kipketer Micah Kogo Leonard Komon Rhonex Kipruto Mike Musyoki Benson Masya Moses Tanui Shem Kororia Paul Kosgei Samuel Wanjiru Abraham Kiptum Geoffrey Kamworor Kibiwott Kandie Patrick Makau Wilson Kipsang Dennis Kimetto Eliud Kipchoge
I count 35. What's your number - 3? 4?
Any specific reason why you write Kenyan "world record holders" ?
This list of Kenyan WR setters has to be - according to Armstrong - updated :
For the Kenyan dopers in 2023 so far you are probably wrong by around 400%.
Let's try to count the male Kenyan WR setters:
David Rudisha Wilson Kipketer (for Denmark) Noah Ngeny Kipchoge Keino Henry Rono Moses Kiptanui Daniel Komen Samson Kimobwa Richard Chelimo Yobes Ondieki William Sigei Paul Tergat Ben Jipcho Peter Koech Wilson B. Kipketer Bernard Barmasai Stephen Cherono (SSS, for Quatar) Joseph Kimani Sammy Kipketer Micah Kogo Leonard Komon Rhonex Kipruto Mike Musyoki Benson Masya Moses Tanui Shem Kororia Paul Kosgei Samuel Wanjiru Abraham Kiptum Geoffrey Kamworor Kibiwott Kandie Patrick Makau Wilson Kipsang Dennis Kimetto Eliud Kipchoge
I count 35. What's your number - 3? 4?
Any specific reason why you write Kenyan "world record holders" ?
This list of Kenyan WR setters has to be - according to Armstrong - updated :
Ismael Kirui
Josephat Machuka
Paul Koech
Martin Mathati
Ismael Kombich
William Yiampoy
Joseph Mwengi
Wilfried Bungei
James Magut
Asbel Kiprop
Silas Kiplagat
Collins Cheboi
Augustine Chogo
Gideon Gathimba
Geoffrey Rono
William B. Tanui
and some more.
For sure we should not forget
Mark Bett
Moses Mosop
Wilfred Korir
Julius Kariuki
which brings the no. of Kenyan WR setters close to 60.
Which other nation has more than 10 in the last 60 years?
For the Kenyan dopers in 2023 so far you are probably wrong by around 400%.
Let's try to count the male Kenyan WR setters:
David Rudisha Wilson Kipketer (for Denmark) Noah Ngeny Kipchoge Keino Henry Rono Moses Kiptanui Daniel Komen Samson Kimobwa Richard Chelimo Yobes Ondieki William Sigei Paul Tergat Ben Jipcho Peter Koech Wilson B. Kipketer Bernard Barmasai Stephen Cherono (SSS, for Quatar) Joseph Kimani Sammy Kipketer Micah Kogo Leonard Komon Rhonex Kipruto Mike Musyoki Benson Masya Moses Tanui Shem Kororia Paul Kosgei Samuel Wanjiru Abraham Kiptum Geoffrey Kamworor Kibiwott Kandie Patrick Makau Wilson Kipsang Dennis Kimetto Eliud Kipchoge
I count 35. What's your number - 3? 4?
Any specific reason why you write Kenyan "world record holders" ?
This list of Kenyan WR setters has to be - according to Armstrong - updated :
Ismael Kirui
Josephat Machuka
Paul Koech
Martin Mathati
Ismael Kombich
William Yiampoy
Joseph Mwengi
Wilfried Bungei
James Magut
Asbel Kiprop
Silas Kiplagat
Collins Cheboi
Augustine Chogo
Gideon Gathimba
Geoffrey Rono
William B. Tanui
and some more.
Now we have to deduct those listed busted for doping and against the other side of the ledger the far greater number of Kenyan dopers than world record holders.
I asked for the Kenyan record-breakers against the events listed from the 800m to the marathon. You all refused because there were so few. As I have pointed out, NZ had more world-records and record breakers between 1961-76, so it was a pointless ditch for you to die in. It is also utterly irrelevant to the present situation, in which we see Kenya a world leader for doping in distance running. But since your life is lived entirely inside your internet bubble you see none of this.
More flapping like a fish.
You denied an easily verifiable fact for months, a fact I predicted you couldn't verify on your own, even after you had the precise information you ask for back in January. That prediction came true.
This thread is not about Kenyan doping, but about New Zealand doping -- are you suggesting that New Zealand doped in 1961-76? Because that would at least be on topic.
No, I'm not suggesting that but you will always read things that aren't stated and overlook those that are.
You denied an easily verifiable fact for months, a fact I predicted you couldn't verify on your own, even after you had the precise information you ask for back in January. That prediction came true.
This thread is not about Kenyan doping, but about New Zealand doping -- are you suggesting that New Zealand doped in 1961-76? Because that would at least be on topic.
No, I'm not suggesting that but you will always read things that aren't stated and overlook those that are.
Since you are still in denial, here's a brief recap of your months long demonstration of your depth of incompetence (with respect to searching for complete and accurate information) and ignorance (lack of knowledge of basic track history from your own era) and denial:
It is an undeniable and easily verifiable fact that 4 Kenyans set 10 world records in 4 events in this chosen period of 1964-1979. You should have known this yourself, as early as 1978. This was presented by "slowwer" as only one small part of the context arguing that Kenya was the best nation in that period, in running events on the track.
You denied this easily verifiable fact for months. You argued it was only 2 records, then 4 records, then 6 records -- apparently all the incomplete results of your exhaustive search -- for months, even after "slowwer" had already given you the Kenyan names and the track events for Kenya's 10 world records.
You failed to demonstrate that you are capable of conducting a simple internet search, that I could do in 5 minutes, and others could in 1 minute with my detailed clues.
You failed to demonstrate accurate personal knowledge of basic historical facts during the period of the '60s and '70s, clinging instead to your faulty memory and incomplete search reults.
Now you pretend that all along, your months long denial of easily verifiable historical fact, and demonstration of search incompetence and track history ignorance was a long term ploy to show that New Zealand was better in a slightly earlier range of years.
The time was ripe to make that claim back in December, when asked repeatedly, if not Kenya, which country was better than Kenya, but only after acknowledging the 10 Kenyan world records.
And from these demonstrated collosal failures causing you to be uninformed about basic track history in the '60s and '70s, you now pretend to be the only one old enough and knowledgeable enough to know how important imperial distances were in that same era, again showing the same tell-tale signs of over-confidence in your own personal knowledge.
No, I'm not suggesting that but you will always read things that aren't stated and overlook those that are.
Since you are still in denial, here's a brief recap of your months long demonstration of your depth of incompetence (with respect to searching for complete and accurate information) and ignorance (lack of knowledge of basic track history from your own era) and denial:
It is an undeniable and easily verifiable fact that 4 Kenyans set 10 world records in 4 events in this chosen period of 1964-1979. You should have known this yourself, as early as 1978. This was presented by "slowwer" as only one small part of the context arguing that Kenya was the best nation in that period, in running events on the track.
You denied this easily verifiable fact for months. You argued it was only 2 records, then 4 records, then 6 records -- apparently all the incomplete results of your exhaustive search -- for months, even after "slowwer" had already given you the Kenyan names and the track events for Kenya's 10 world records.
You failed to demonstrate that you are capable of conducting a simple internet search, that I could do in 5 minutes, and others could in 1 minute with my detailed clues.
You failed to demonstrate accurate personal knowledge of basic historical facts during the period of the '60s and '70s, clinging instead to your faulty memory and incomplete search reults.
Now you pretend that all along, your months long denial of easily verifiable historical fact, and demonstration of search incompetence and track history ignorance was a long term ploy to show that New Zealand was better in a slightly earlier range of years.
The time was ripe to make that claim back in December, when asked repeatedly, if not Kenya, which country was better than Kenya, but only after acknowledging the 10 Kenyan world records.
And from these demonstrated collosal failures causing you to be uninformed about basic track history in the '60s and '70s, you now pretend to be the only one old enough and knowledgeable enough to know how important imperial distances were in that same era, again showing the same tell-tale signs of over-confidence in your own personal knowledge.
All that and you're left with fewer Kenyan world record holders than NZ had in a similar period - and far fewer Olympic medallists. But all this is a side-show. The main event is chronic Kenyan doping. That's what they truly excel at. Your pompous and irrelevant lectures don't get around that.