We don't need a million thread on this topic. We like one thread per topic. We merged several others into this thread including one called "Alex Pretti was a deranged lunatic." and one called "New York Times reports that Pretti attacked ICE cars 11 days before his death" and one called "LeBron James: Why hasn't he commented on the Alex Pretti killing?"
The craziest thing for me, in all of these threads, is the fact that the people who are defending ICE always seem to start throwing out crazy comments like 'the dems want rapists and murderers on our streets' and 'ICE are catching bad guys'. I don't think anyone wants rapists and murderers on the streets, I don't think anyone doesn't want a strong immigration system in their country to stop illegal migration in a controlled way. Everyone is on the same page.
The difference is when someone is shot dead in the street who is none of those things it should be a concern, it should make you question whether the way these things are being done is right, it should make you want due process to be followed and if a crime was commited the shooter to be correctly punished. What if it was your brother? Or wife? I just don't get how people can't see that both of these situations are grossly wrong and not have any empathy for the families and friends of these people.
People are protesting because of the way ICE are behaving and because people are being murdered, not because they want the country over-run with illegal immigrants, these are two different things.
Unrest The 2020s in Minneapolis are defined by the murder of George Floyd in May 2020, which ignited global protests against police brutality and systemic racism. The Catalyst: The May 2020 killing triggered massive protests, riots, and the burning of the Third Police Precinct, representing a defining moment for racial justice in the decade. Impact: The city became the epicenter of a national conversation on police reform and racial equity, leading to long-term legal, social, and structural changes. Context: These events took place against the backdrop of the COVID-19 pandemic and wider US democratic backsliding.
1970s Belfast: The Height of "The Troubles" The 1970s was the most violent period of the 30-year conflict in Northern Ireland known as "The Troubles," with Belfast as the primary focal point. Conflict: This period included intense sectarian violence, bombings, and armed engagements between loyalist/republican paramilitaries and British security forces. Key Events: Key moments in Belfast included the Battle of St Matthew's and the Falls Curfew in 1970, and the aftermath of Bloody Sunday in 1972. Urban Landscape: The city was characterized by "peace lines" (segregation walls), checkpoints, and a high security presence, deeply impacting daily life.
1980s Beirut: Civil War and Disintegration During the 1980s, Beirut was a deeply divided city, acting as the,,center of a chaotic Lebanese Civil War that started in 1975 and continued to escalate. Conflict: The city was split by the "Green Line," separating combatants and experiencing heavy shelling, car bombings, and sniper fire. Foreign Intervention: The decade was marked by the 1982 Israeli invasion of Lebanon and the subsequent presence of multinational forces, turning Beirut into a battleground for regional and international power struggles. Disintegration: Life was characterized by the collapse of state infrastructure, constant fear, and the forced relocation of populations along sectarian lines.
Summary of Comparison: All three examples represent cities in crisis, where the "normal" functioning of society was replaced by, respectively, intense social justice protest (Minneapolis), prolonged sectarian warfare (Belfast), and civil war/foreign intervention (Beirut).
Please don't compare this to the troubles, especially if you know nothing about it.
I personally experienced at least 3 IRA bombs, so let's not go there.
DHS: ‘Trust us, he was no choir boy’ World: ‘He was in fact a choir boy, Boy Scout, ICU nurse and all around stand up guy who died being a hero at the hands of absolute ICE zeros’.
The craziest thing for me, in all of these threads, is the fact that the people who are defending ICE always seem to start throwing out crazy comments like 'the dems want rapists and murderers on our streets' and 'ICE are catching bad guys'. I don't think anyone wants rapists and murderers on the streets, I don't think anyone doesn't want a strong immigration system in their country to stop illegal migration in a controlled way. Everyone is on the same page.
The difference is when someone is shot dead in the street who is none of those things it should be a concern, it should make you question whether the way these things are being done is right, it should make you want due process to be followed and if a crime was commited the shooter to be correctly punished. What if it was your brother? Or wife? I just don't get how people can't see that both of these situations are grossly wrong and not have any empathy for the families and friends of these people.
People are protesting because of the way ICE are behaving and because people are being murdered, not because they want the country over-run with illegal immigrants, these are two different things.
Watching all of these right wingers completely turn on concealed carry and open carry instead of just admitting ICE executed someone and it’s wrong is an unbelievable amount of boot licking even for them.
The governor and mayor are encouraging constituents to disobey federal law. There is disconnect between sides on what is “protest” and what is “obstruction. “Protesters” believe whistles are harmless however they clearly impact communications between ICE officers and may have contributed to latest ICE shooting. Clear definition needs to be made between protest, obstruction/interference. After watching/listening to video clips, I wouldn’t want any part of that environment.
Tim Walz and Jacob Frey do want murderers and rapists out on the street if they will vote for them. They could care less about the city or state as long as they can keep running their fraud scheme. The corruption and graft of these two runs through the entire democratic government.
The majority of Americans want ICE to continue removing illegals from this country. It's pretty clear the left is using members of its own community as pawns solely to cause chaos in attempt to get Trump. Literally advocating the killing of their own to create division. Pathetic.
The majority of Americans favor abolishing ICE according to most recent polls
The governor and mayor are encouraging constituents to disobey federal law. There is disconnect between sides on what is “protest” and what is “obstruction. “Protesters” believe whistles are harmless however they clearly impact communications between ICE officers and may have contributed to latest ICE shooting. Clear definition needs to be made between protest, obstruction/interference. After watching/listening to video clips, I wouldn’t want any part of that environment.
Yes.
Democrats have lectured us for years that both words and silence are violence.
The craziest thing for me, in all of these threads, is the fact that the people who are defending ICE always seem to start throwing out crazy comments like 'the dems want rapists and murderers on our streets' and 'ICE are catching bad guys'. I don't think anyone wants rapists and murderers on the streets, I don't think anyone doesn't want a strong immigration system in their country to stop illegal migration in a controlled way. Everyone is on the same page.
The difference is when someone is shot dead in the street who is none of those things it should be a concern, it should make you question whether the way these things are being done is right, it should make you want due process to be followed and if a crime was commited the shooter to be correctly punished. What if it was your brother? Or wife? I just don't get how people can't see that both of these situations are grossly wrong and not have any empathy for the families and friends of these people.
People are protesting because of the way ICE are behaving and because people are being murdered, not because they want the country over-run with illegal immigrants, these are two different things.
They try to frame a false dichotomy where if you don’t acquiesce to ICE executing citizens then you must be pro-open borders or whatever.
Plenty of administrations have run strong immigration enforcement without trodding all over the constitution and killing Americans.
The governor and mayor are encouraging constituents to disobey federal law. There is disconnect between sides on what is “protest” and what is “obstruction. “Protesters” believe whistles are harmless however they clearly impact communications between ICE officers and may have contributed to latest ICE shooting. Clear definition needs to be made between protest, obstruction/interference. After watching/listening to video clips, I wouldn’t want any part of that environment.
Yes.
Democrats have lectured us for years that both words and silence are violence.
They frame both as communication.
Whistles are a form of communication.
Blowing whistles is violence.
Haha this is so 2020-cute. The entire country has turned against you. Keep digging
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