Serious thread about election fraud

george c wrote:

earnest, I did not read what I assume is drivel. You have not made a valid point nor communicated anything that remotely brings about conversation and insight. It has been wrong 80+% of the time. Maybe someone else will indulge you.

What a fool. You said people only voted for Trump because they are racist.

I pointed out that millions of people voted for Trump because they want to keep their jobs and Biden would destroy their jobs.

It's disgusting that you find that as "drivel" and invalid.

ernest 1978 wrote:

george c wrote:

earnest, I did not read what I assume is drivel. You have not made a valid point nor communicated anything that remotely brings about conversation and insight. It has been wrong 80+% of the time. Maybe someone else will indulge you.

What a fool. You said people only voted for Trump because they are racist.

I pointed out that millions of people voted for Trump because they want to keep their jobs and Biden would destroy their jobs.

It's disgusting that you find that as "drivel" and invalid.

Millions? Really? That kind of exaggeration is drivel, I'm afraid.

Can you please articulate why you 'voted for Biden'? You keep insisting you did, but have only presented why people should not have voted for him.

I voted for Trump simply because is the most Christ-like candidate we have ever had. There is a troubling attack on the Christian conservative lifestyle (men being the leaders, female housewives, etc) by the radical leftist democrats and I firmly believe that Trump was delivered to us by God to defeat them.

Had Enough wrote:

So recognizing the contributions of non-white people amounts to "mocking Christians"? Got it. Like I correctly stated, you see it as a personal attack.

That's says all we need to know about you.

BTW- All the stuff isn't free. You know what else isn't "free"? the cost of the military. They are societal investments. Some people feel investing in people instead of bombs & corporation is worthwhile.

Nice attempt at a strawman. I never said anything about recognizing the contributions of non-white people, you made that up. You're the one who said you're thankful that the US is becoming less White and Christian, which implies being white and Christian is a bad thing, only an idiot could not see how inflammatory that is. If that's not what you meant, then learn to express your ideas more clearly. If it is, then your attempt at making racist and derogatory comments about other religions, then sidestepping when people call you out on it just makes you look like an idiot.

Funny how people just believe when told something is debunked or proven false. There has to be evidence to prove this election was on the up and up when there is evidence of voter fraud, at least locally. Now is it widespread? I'm not certain, but I'm not trusting anyone's words blindly. Show proof, don't just tell me it's not true.

Just Another Run of the Mill ex-D1 er wrote:

Or, you could choose to believe the Department of Homeland Security:

https://www.axios.com/cisa-election-security-trump-a385868b-512a-4449-addd-4591829a4aef.htmlhttps://www.cisa.gov/rumorcontrol

But, don't let facts get in your way…

+1

Department of Homeland Security calls election:

- "the most secure in American history".

- "There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes or was in any way compromised."

dafdasf wrote:

Funny how people just believe when told something is debunked or proven false. There has to be evidence to prove this election was on the up and up when there is evidence of voter fraud, at least locally. Now is it widespread? I'm not certain, but I'm not trusting anyone's words blindly. Show proof, don't just tell me it's not true.

I'm comfortable letting the courts decide this. Let's check in on what Trump's lawyers are willing to say in a court of law where the rubber meets the road, and contrast that to what Trump and Giuliani are claiming on twitter and in landscaper's parking lots...

"While legal actions by the Trump campaign are proceeding in multiple states, more than a dozen cases have been thrown out of court, and there is not a single case in which substantial evidence of election fraud has emerged.

Instead, Trump lawyers have had to admit to judges that they have no evidence of fraud – in sharp contrast with the message the president is spreading on Twitter.

In a case in Maricopa county, Arizona, accusing poll workers of misconduct – the case that was withdrawn on Friday afternoon – Trump lawyer Langhofer told a judge that the plaintiffs were “not alleging fraud” or “that anyone is stealing the election” but raising concerns about “good faith errors”.

In a case in Montgomery county, Pennsylvania, the lawyer Jonathan Goldstein, who has his own law firm, was attempting to have 592 mail-in ballots thrown out because of “irregularities” with the ballots’ outer envelopes.

A judge pressed Goldstein on whether he was alleging voter fraud.

“I am asking you a specific question, and I am looking for a specific answer,” the judge said. “Are you claiming that there is any fraud in connection with these 592 disputed ballots?”

“To my knowledge at present, no,” Goldstein said.

“Are you claiming that there is any undue or improper influence upon the elector with respect to these 592 ballots?” asked the judge.

Goldstein replied: “To my knowledge at present, no.”"

Not for nothing...but can you imagine the peeing into the wind involved in trying to throw out 592 ballots on procedural grounds when you're down by millions of votes nationally and hundreds of thousands of votes in the states that count at this point? It's PR stunt. You've been had, guys.

Oh boy. You prove my point with every post. You are so intent on being the victim you can't even read. Let me help you out because clearly you need it. I stated that cultural history was changing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_history

That's a good thing because, despite your protests, non-whites, non christian, non-europeans have contributed significantly to the US and they have been overlooked.

Somehow that is racist? The problem is you. You can call me all the name you want, that doesn't change who you presenting yourself to be.

they are mad because some of us don't think the confederate flag is all that cool.

You’ve missed the point that was being made. That is if systemic racism seems apparent even to those who are white, when the majority of POC are saying the same thing, you would be prudent to not ignore these peoples experiences. Something that I see a lot conservative folk in here complaining that the left is doing to them.

intentionally missing the point wrote:

You’ve missed the point that was being made. That is if systemic racism seems apparent even to those who are white, when the majority of POC are saying the same thing, you would be prudent to not ignore these peoples experiences. Something that I see a lot conservative folk in here complaining that the left is doing to them.

You've provided NO evidence for systemic racism. Just crappy anecdotes.

"I was driving 115 miles per hour in my car but the cop only pulled me over because I'm black" is not proof of systemic racism.

Minorities actually get preferential treatment (affirmative action).

ernest 1978 wrote:

[quote]intentionally missing the point wrote:

You’ve missed the point that was being made. That is if systemic racism seems apparent even

You've provided NO evidence for systemic racism. Just crappy anecdotes.

"I was driving 115 miles per hour in my car but the cop only pulled me over because I'm black" is not proof of systemic racism.

Minorities actually get preferential treatment (affirmative action).

LOL is this a court of law? Why do I need to provide evidence for something clear as day. Thats like asking for evidence the sky is blue. I was merely providing some context for the clueless such as yourself. Take it or leave it.

As a Libertarian and a Christian, I do not need “proof” that there was election fraud. I simply depend on my faith. I have the upmost Faith that President Trump will be vindicated for He has the backing of Christ to defeat the radical leftist democrats.

baa baa wool wrote:

You guys give up on the argument that there was fraud to the tune of netting hundreds of thousands of Biden votes? Just trying to figure out why you’ve pivoted to systemic racism.

I know.

800,000 vote leads like Trump had in PA frequently disappear.

Nothing to see here

The Unkle wrote:

baa baa wool wrote:

You guys give up on the argument that there was fraud to the tune of netting hundreds of thousands of Biden votes? Just trying to figure out why you’ve pivoted to systemic racism.

I know.

800,000 vote leads like Trump had in PA frequently disappear.

Nothing to see here

Poor Boston boy can't understand sampling :`(

Have your dad explain it to you.

ernest 1978 wrote:

*avoidance*

Quit dodging the question, Ernie. Keep the lie going!

The Unkle wrote:

baa baa wool wrote:

You guys give up on the argument that there was fraud to the tune of netting hundreds of thousands of Biden votes? Just trying to figure out why you’ve pivoted to systemic racism.

I know.

800,000 vote leads like Trump had in PA frequently disappear.

Nothing to see here

I'll send you a 7th grade algebra textbook for free. Let me know how you want to arrange this.