If he wasn't such a slime-ball you would feel pity for the poor schmuck.
That was a revealing picture.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/body-language-expert-breaks-down-150000400.html
If he wasn't such a slime-ball you would feel pity for the poor schmuck.
That was a revealing picture.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/body-language-expert-breaks-down-150000400.html
Conundrum wrote:
Most of us know Donald Trump is a narcissist who has a history of acting in the present to serve his interests and leaving others basically $crewed. That has been his MO since bankrupting companies and not paying his workers or other bills owed, selling students enrollment to Trump University only to have them $crewed in the end. Taking away environmental protection knowing future generations would be $crewed and pay the price. Make no mistake, Trump is a gifted fast talking conman. He knows how to sell to people's dreams and their fears. He's good.
Now his tax break, which has put the economy on a short term sugar high and has done very well for the top percent is more of the same. Someone will get $crewed in the end. The tax cuts are not paying for themselves, that's a Trump con.
The Trump price tag will add trillion of dollars to the deficit now and in the future. The ratio of national debt to our GNP hasn't been this bad since right after WW II. Its the kind of debt that is unheard of particularly when there is no war or recession to spend out of. Much of it is owed to foreign counties.
This level of debt is unsustainable and puts future services (like your SSI payments) and economic stability at risk. The future will be $crewed just like Trump has done so many times in the past. We will pay for Trump's irresponsibility and our politicians refusal to limit Trump.
The jig is up and we will pay for the Trump show.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/why-skyrocketing-federal-debt-will-mean-the-next-recession-is-harder-to-overcome
I guess some of our leading CEOs are worried about our country's economic position too.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/26/investing/stock-market-insider-selling/index.htmlThis is a shame wrote:
TTH wrote:
Why would anyone believe the tool on this anyway?
People get enraged whenever he speaks, but he never speaks the truth or carries through on anything. So people are enraged by a big troll and act as if what he says and does is reality instead of the ravings of a madman.
The stock market jumped today on Trump saying China wants a deal, but this is just the fool dribbling baloney out of his mouth. Too bad we just can’t impeach and remove this idiot.
Some people may get enraged, I certainly don’t. I’m mostly amazed at his supporters inability to see through it.
Somewhat related.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/shep-smith-fact-checks-trump-for-claiming-russia-was-barred-from-g8-because-putin-outsmarted-obama/ar-AAGmrS4?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignoutBlame Game wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
Nope - it is the House that impeaches. The Senate rules on convicting the president and removing him.
Nope Trumper Sally. Impeachment means nothing unless the Senate convicts. Learn you something.
Did you read what I wrote? The House impeaches and the Senate rules on conviction and removal. Can you not read?
Sally Vix wrote:
Two Sides wrote:
You were going somewhere then seemed to go way partisan yourself with the IRS comment.
What was the case of the IRS being used to destroy those of "the other party"?
Is the IRS part of one party itself?
I should have kept politics out of it, but the Lois Lerner-led IRS went after about 500 conservative groups and maybe a handful (if that many) liberal groups. So, yes, it was highly politicized in going after conservative groups. Lois refused to even testify before Congress. Why she is not in prison befuddles me.
It's probably because nobody at the IRS committed a crime.
The House needs to impeach so there will be no question but to blame the Senate for not providing oversight of the president.
Two Sides wrote:
The House needs to impeach so there will be no question but to blame the Senate for not providing oversight of the president.
Yeah, you have a point but unless Trump’s job approval drops into the 60s with GOP voters (currently in upper 80s to low 90s) it ain’t gonna happen.
Sally Vix wrote:
Blame Game wrote:
Nope Trumper Sally. Impeachment means nothing unless the Senate convicts. Learn you something.
Did you read what I wrote? The House impeaches and the Senate rules on conviction and removal. Can you not read?
Can you NOT comprehend. Impeachment is MEANINGLESS UNLESS the SENATE is willing to proceed with a VOTE, and MCCONNELL WILL NOT ALLOW A VOTE because he does not want to embarrass Trump coming up on an election year.
PS. You ignorance has no lower limit.
Fat hurts wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
I should have kept politics out of it, but the Lois Lerner-led IRS went after about 500 conservative groups and maybe a handful (if that many) liberal groups. So, yes, it was highly politicized in going after conservative groups. Lois refused to even testify before Congress. Why she is not in prison befuddles me.
It's probably because nobody at the IRS committed a crime.
Those "conservative" group were not allowed non-profit status because they target their donations to specific candidates. There was a rush of fake conservative nonprofits trying to claim tax-free status. Most were funded by people like the Koch Bros. GOP politicians were up in arms because not getting non-profit status meant less money would flow to political candidates. The GOP has since gutted the IRS group responsible to following the law of true tax-exempt non-profits.
Two Sides wrote:
The House needs to impeach so there will be no question but to blame the Senate for not providing oversight of the president.
Ahem, no. The Senate has a game plan in place to viciously attack every democrat who votes for impeachment.
GOP only cares about job approval wrote:
Two Sides wrote:
The House needs to impeach so there will be no question but to blame the Senate for not providing oversight of the president.
Yeah, you have a point but unless Trump’s job approval drops into the 60s with GOP voters (currently in upper 80s to low 90s) it ain’t gonna happen.
Moscow Mitch would never allow a vote. He'll claim that it is too close to an election and the voters will decide whether to remove Trump by voting.
Democrats lose again wrote:
Democrats lose again!!!!!!
Oh yeah?
https://news.yahoo.com/candidate-made-racist-comments-withdraws-182558541.htmlConundrum wrote:
Conundrum wrote:
Most of us know Donald Trump is a narcissist who has a history of acting in the present to serve his interests and leaving others basically $crewed. That has been his MO since bankrupting companies and not paying his workers or other bills owed, selling students enrollment to Trump University only to have them $crewed in the end. Taking away environmental protection knowing future generations would be $crewed and pay the price. Make no mistake, Trump is a gifted fast talking conman. He knows how to sell to people's dreams and their fears. He's good.
Now his tax break, which has put the economy on a short term sugar high and has done very well for the top percent is more of the same. Someone will get $crewed in the end. The tax cuts are not paying for themselves, that's a Trump con.
The Trump price tag will add trillion of dollars to the deficit now and in the future. The ratio of national debt to our GNP hasn't been this bad since right after WW II. Its the kind of debt that is unheard of particularly when there is no war or recession to spend out of. Much of it is owed to foreign counties.
This level of debt is unsustainable and puts future services (like your SSI payments) and economic stability at risk. The future will be $crewed just like Trump has done so many times in the past. We will pay for Trump's irresponsibility and our politicians refusal to limit Trump.
The jig is up and we will pay for the Trump show.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/why-skyrocketing-federal-debt-will-mean-the-next-recession-is-harder-to-overcomeI guess some of our leading CEOs are worried about our country's economic position too.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/26/investing/stock-market-insider-selling/index.html
The major problem with the modern GOP is they claim to be fiscally conservative but are really very fiscally irresponsible. Politically they know that tax cuts play to their base. They also know that when their base screams for “spending cuts” what their base means is “cut everyone’s benefits but MINE”. Cutting Medicare and social security—which needs to happen right NOW and which needs to be applied to BOOMERS and CURRENT retirees—would be political suicide for the GOP despite all their rhetoric on spending. Thus, the major problem with GOP tax cuts is they NEVER “get to govt spending cuts” that they promise and they never will.
How dumb are people? Why do they forget so quickly? The modern GOP is NOT fiscally conservative. They have cut taxes before—several times in most of our lifetimes—and they NEVER get to cutting spending.
I suppose a tax cut would be fine IF they passed legislation slashing government spending FIRST. In other words, cut spending by X amount so they know how much less revenue they’ll be taking in and then give X amount back to tax payers. But that’s not what happens. We’ve seen this playbook before—recently.
The GOP controlled both houses of Congress AND had a GOP POTUS for 6 of the 8 Bush II years—this was not that long ago, the early 2000s. They passed a massive tax cut. What else did they do? Well they.... 1) said the tax cuts would “pay for themselves” by driving economic growth (aka magical thinking) 2) they simultaneously MASSIVELY INCREASED government spending!
What happened? We had a short term boom followed by a MASSIVE economic collapse AND a MASSIVE increase in the national debt. But since the economic collapse happened several years later dumb people with short attention spans that are obsessed with tax cuts who think that the minute tax legislation is passed the full effect of said tax legislation is felt—are and where mentally unable to connect the collapse to the very bad tax & spend policies of the GOP.
So, what is happening now? 1) the GOP is saying the same thing about “tax cuts paying for themselves” by driving economic growth 2) CEOs are smart and know that if they throw peons short term benefits (like a one time bonus rather than a permanent increase in worker salaries...which are peanuts to the CEOs and which do nothing to address the real issue of wage stagnation) that they can connect that to the tax cuts and say “see trickle down works! What’s good for corporations is good for individuals”...meanwhile those same corporations pocket > 90% of the benefit from the tax cut 3) the GOP is proposing MASSIVE increases in defense spending, infrastructure spending, and spending for a southern “boarder” wall with no plan to pay for any of it.
These tax cuts will have the same effect as prior cuts—a huge increase in the national debt and an eventual economic collapse that disproportionately effects individuals (who, yeah, got a short term increase in $) while corporations make out like bandits (their cuts are permanent). Plus, all the benefits (short term) will be attributed to the current admin, while the long term effects will be blamed on whomever is in office when the $hit hits the fan in several years.
Why do you tax obsess Morans not understand that at this point in our history the ONLY rational approach is an INCREASE in taxes coupled with a DECREASE in spending. We owe too much already to get tax cuts. Tax cuts are a bad idea, fiscally irresponsible, and morally reprehensible.
Political Nonprofits wrote:
Those "conservative" group were not allowed non-profit status because they target their donations to specific candidates. There was a rush of fake conservative nonprofits trying to claim tax-free status. Most were funded by people like the Koch Bros. GOP politicians were up in arms because not getting non-profit status meant less money would flow to political candidates. The GOP has since gutted the IRS group responsible to following the law of true tax-exempt non-profits.
Sadly this is very much true.
Three Sided Coin wrote:
Two Sides wrote:
The House needs to impeach so there will be no question but to blame the Senate for not providing oversight of the president.
Ahem, no. The Senate has a game plan in place to viciously attack every democrat who votes for impeachment.
Do you think that will play well to swing voters - attacking people asking for justice?
Can’t Democrats game plan to shame Republicans for allowing Trump to run lawless unchecked?
That’s why there is value for impeachment right now.
Put everyone on record with regard to Trump’s behavior and let the voters decide where they side.
Right now by not impeaching, Democrats are on record as saying Trump hasn’t done anything unlawful.
Don’t tax....just spend. THE GOP Mantra wrote:
Conundrum wrote:
I guess some of our leading CEOs are worried about our country's economic position too.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/26/investing/stock-market-insider-selling/index.htmlThe major problem with the modern GOP is they claim to be fiscally conservative but are really very fiscally irresponsible. Politically they know that tax cuts play to their base. They also know that when their base screams for “spending cuts” what their base means is “cut everyone’s benefits but MINE”. Cutting Medicare and social security—which needs to happen right NOW and which needs to be applied to BOOMERS and CURRENT retirees—would be political suicide for the GOP despite all their rhetoric on spending. Thus, the major problem with GOP tax cuts is they NEVER “get to govt spending cuts” that they promise and they never will.
How dumb are people? Why do they forget so quickly? The modern GOP is NOT fiscally conservative. They have cut taxes before—several times in most of our lifetimes—and they NEVER get to cutting spending.
I suppose a tax cut would be fine IF they passed legislation slashing government spending FIRST. In other words, cut spending by X amount so they know how much less revenue they’ll be taking in and then give X amount back to tax payers. But that’s not what happens. We’ve seen this playbook before—recently.
The GOP controlled both houses of Congress AND had a GOP POTUS for 6 of the 8 Bush II years—this was not that long ago, the early 2000s. They passed a massive tax cut. What else did they do? Well they.... 1) said the tax cuts would “pay for themselves” by driving economic growth (aka magical thinking) 2) they simultaneously MASSIVELY INCREASED government spending!
What happened? We had a short term boom followed by a MASSIVE economic collapse AND a MASSIVE increase in the national debt. But since the economic collapse happened several years later dumb people with short attention spans that are obsessed with tax cuts who think that the minute tax legislation is passed the full effect of said tax legislation is felt—are and where mentally unable to connect the collapse to the very bad tax & spend policies of the GOP.
So, what is happening now? 1) the GOP is saying the same thing about “tax cuts paying for themselves” by driving economic growth 2) CEOs are smart and know that if they throw peons short term benefits (like a one time bonus rather than a permanent increase in worker salaries...which are peanuts to the CEOs and which do nothing to address the real issue of wage stagnation) that they can connect that to the tax cuts and say “see trickle down works! What’s good for corporations is good for individuals”...meanwhile those same corporations pocket > 90% of the benefit from the tax cut 3) the GOP is proposing MASSIVE increases in defense spending, infrastructure spending, and spending for a southern “boarder” wall with no plan to pay for any of it.
These tax cuts will have the same effect as prior cuts—a huge increase in the national debt and an eventual economic collapse that disproportionately effects individuals (who, yeah, got a short term increase in $) while corporations make out like bandits (their cuts are permanent). Plus, all the benefits (short term) will be attributed to the current admin, while the long term effects will be blamed on whomever is in office when the $hit hits the fan in several years.
Why do you tax obsess Morans not understand that at this point in our history the ONLY rational approach is an INCREASE in taxes coupled with a DECREASE in spending. We owe too much already to get tax cuts. Tax cuts are a bad idea, fiscally irresponsible, and morally reprehensible.
That was a good review of the history of irresponsible GOP spending and its effects on the economy. The statistic that shocked me was that our ratio of GNP to debt was the poorest since just after we fought World War II. If world interest rates ever increased we would be in an even more dire situation than we are in now. The percentage of our national budget that goes to interest payments on our debt is disheartening.
Although its expected that Trump is totally irresponsible, you bring up an excellent point with your question, "How dumb are people". We have become fiscally irresponsible as a nation and too many of us wanted to believe the con man and we gave him the keys to the country's vault. Not good.
Ciro wrote:
He’s losing it.
https://news.yahoo.com/white-house-clarifies-president-melania-233152631.html
Trump says what ever he thinks sounds good without any concern for the truth. Its like he lives in his own reality and when he says these fabricated stories I question whether or not at that moment in time he believes it.
And it such a constant problem that it seems like its the only way he can be. He even does it on so many issues that aren't even important.
He is a disturbed man.
Two Sides wrote:
Three Sided Coin wrote:
Ahem, no. The Senate has a game plan in place to viciously attack every democrat who votes for impeachment.
Do you think that will play well to swing voters - attacking people asking for justice?
Can’t Democrats game plan to shame Republicans for allowing Trump to run lawless unchecked?
That’s why there is value for impeachment right now.
Put everyone on record with regard to Trump’s behavior and let the voters decide where they side.
Right now by not impeaching, Democrats are on record as saying Trump hasn’t done anything unlawful.
I'm still deciding on this issue. Clinton was impeached and it was meaningless and his popularity grew. My main wish is for Trump to be out of office. At some point he does need to be accountable. Maybe the court system after he is out of office will be less of a partisan circus.
Blame Game wrote:
Blame Game wrote:
And the Dem led House is responsible for not impeaching him.
Why is everyone afraid of him?
My error. I suddenly realized that the Repub Senate would never bring up conviction of Trump for impeachment.
The Senate has nothing to do with impeachment.
"The House of Representatives ... shall have the sole Power of Impeachment."— Article I, Section 2, Clause 5
An impeachment is essentially an indictment, with the House operating much as a grand jury.
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The Senate tries the person who has been impeached (indicted).
Here the analogy is to a criminal trial. The impeached (indicted) person is tried by the Senate and will be removed from office if two-thirds of the Senate votes to convict.
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Come on. This is stuff everybody should have learned in high school (or earlier).