Nordhorn wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
And ... what was your G.P.A. in college?
Doesn't matter what you were able to regurgitate at whatever two-bit college you went to. You are dumb AF.
Now, is that really a nice way to make a comment?
Nordhorn wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
And ... what was your G.P.A. in college?
Doesn't matter what you were able to regurgitate at whatever two-bit college you went to. You are dumb AF.
Now, is that really a nice way to make a comment?
Sally Vix wrote:
Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and Mark Zuckerberg did not even have a lowly Bachelor's degree. Oprah too! Were they failures?
You are comparing yourself to people who have changed the world? Example A of your stupidity.
Oprah went back to college and finished her degree. Example B of your stupidity. Just keep typing to add more examples.
Sally Vix wrote:
BS Sally wrote:
You only have a lowly Bachelor's degree. No masters program for you.
You might as well have asked: what was the record of your high school football team:?
Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and Mark Zuckerberg did not even have a lowly Bachelor's degree. Oprah too! Were they failures?
Are you really trying to compare yourself to 4 self-made billionaires?
Flagpole wrote:
I am glad anyone who is productive and law abiding is here.
So you are not glad for all of the field workers and kitchen workers that are productive but gave fake documents to work.
Failure Sally wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and Mark Zuckerberg did not even have a lowly Bachelor's degree. Oprah too! Were they failures?
Are you really trying to compare yourself to 4 self-made billionaires?
No. He dissed me for only having an undergraduate degree. I merely pointed out that many successful people do not even have that. We are supposed to have an enjoyable discourse here. Why the hostility?
Two Sides wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
I am glad anyone who is productive and law abiding is here.
So you are not glad for all of the field workers and kitchen workers that are productive but gave fake documents to work.
Fool, people like Trump hire them and don't require them to provide any documents. That is what they are called undocumented workers. Owners like Trump are left to continue hiring them, and firing them when they get caught. The advantages to someone like Trump are: Play the same game over and over; and avoiding having to pay them when they get fired.
Sally Vix wrote:
Failure Sally wrote:
Are you really trying to compare yourself to 4 self-made billionaires?
No. He dissed me for only having an undergraduate degree. I merely pointed out that many successful people do not even have that. We are supposed to have an enjoyable discourse here. Why the hostility?
You first dissed him by demanding a GPA to determine is he meet you "qualification standards." That someone else is successful has absolutely zero bearing on you. You cannot compare someone else's success to your own. GPA is a worthless measure for hiring someone. (It might be used for a first time hire, but you'd be surprised how often we hired people with lower GPAs because it had been proven, time and time again, that they were the willing team members, while high GPA people almost always wanted to move into management ASAP.)
Overstock CEO resigns after babbling incoherently about the deep state & admitting he banged Russian spy Maria Butina, who obviously is going for the all-time record.
Serious Lea wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
No. He dissed me for only having an undergraduate degree. I merely pointed out that many successful people do not even have that. We are supposed to have an enjoyable discourse here. Why the hostility?
You first dissed him by demanding a GPA to determine is he meet you "qualification standards." That someone else is successful has absolutely zero bearing on you. You cannot compare someone else's success to your own. GPA is a worthless measure for hiring someone. (It might be used for a first time hire, but you'd be surprised how often we hired people with lower GPAs because it had been proven, time and time again, that they were the willing team members, while high GPA people almost always wanted to move into management ASAP.)
A lot of what you said is good stuff. But to include "willing team members" made me cringe. Please never use that term again.
Two Sides wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
I am glad anyone who is productive and law abiding is here.
So you are not glad for all of the field workers and kitchen workers that are productive but gave fake documents to work.
I am not for people who break the law, so to answer your question as simply as possible, NO, I am not glad that there are workers here illegally.
To expand:
1) We should make it harder for anyone to provide fake documents that actually get a person hired. There are companies that WANT illegal workers to provide very good fakes so that they can have plausible deniability, and there should not be the ability either for workers to dupe employers or employers to be able to deny they knowingly hired an illegal worker.
2) We need to SEVERELY PUNISH employers who knowingly hire illegal workers. Significant jail time and huge fines. Repeat offenders should have their businesses taken from them.
3) We need to SEVERELY PUNISH employers who pay workers less than minimum wage. Significant jail time and huge fines.
4) We need to have some sort of graduated grandfather clause in place that will allow people who have worked here, even illegally, for a long time to be able to apply for citizenship.
5) I am NOT for a skills test or a wealth test to have people come here. We should continue to be the benevolent nation we have been in the past. We should provide the quickest path to citizenship for people who are leaving their home country due to threats to their lives. We have laws in place to punish people who break our laws...they go to prison. Same should just happen to any American or anyone with legal standing in this country...break a law, go to prison.
Sally Vix wrote:
A lot of what you said is good stuff. But to include "willing team members" made me cringe. Please never use that term again.
Sally Vix wrote:
A lot of what you said is good stuff. But to include "willing team members" made me cringe. Please never use that term again.
That is what they are called them at Boeing. As a manager there I hired engineers. "Willing team members" means they are willing to work, learn the job, and advance as they become more qualified. And they work. And they work with others. They, like workers, will find things to complain about--human nature. But the desired end result is to hire people who can work with others, and are not so egotistical that they want to be lone eagles. There is no I in team. How do you not know this?
"Willing team members" are what they are. Understand it. Don't cringe, because you have not idea what it actually means.
Guess who is risking bankrupting the country. Is any one surprised?
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Serious Lea wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
A lot of what you said is good stuff. But to include "willing team members" made me cringe. Please never use that term again.
Sally Vix wrote:
A lot of what you said is good stuff. But to include "willing team members" made me cringe. Please never use that term again.
That is what they are called them at Boeing. As a manager there I hired engineers. "Willing team members" means they are willing to work, learn the job, and advance as they become more qualified. And they work. And they work with others. They, like workers, will find things to complain about--human nature. But the desired end result is to hire people who can work with others, and are not so egotistical that they want to be lone eagles. There is no I in team. How do you not know this?
"Willing team members" are what they are. Understand it. Don't cringe, because you have not idea what it actually means.
Everything you just said is out of the Boeing corporate book. I had a response ready for you but read again what you wrote and it is the biggest bunch of garbage I have ever read. Are you really a manager? Because your writing says otherwise.
Sooooooo... just joining this thread.
What'd I miss? "Quality Posters Only" so must be something good!
BTW, next poster is 66666, so may be condemned to an eternity of Hellfire... where, most probably, Trump is President for Life.
You missed being 66666.
Sally Vix wrote:
Everything you just said is out of the Boeing corporate book. I had a response ready for you but read again what you wrote and it is the biggest bunch of garbage I have ever read. Are you really a manager? Because your writing says otherwise.
You know nothing about business. What I said is out of EVERY business handbook; small or large businesses. Please refrain from commenting about topics you have no experience about.
Sally Vix wrote:
Are you really a manager? Because your writing says otherwise.
It says that writing drafts are much more important for upper management, than spending time grammar and spellchecking. Write the draft and move on. Good management secretaries are the ones who can spend money cleaning up writing ... college grads with English writing degrees. Time is money. You don't understand that.
So, what is your career? Grammar checking internet forums seems to be you only skill.
Serious Lea wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
Everything you just said is out of the Boeing corporate book. I had a response ready for you but read again what you wrote and it is the biggest bunch of garbage I have ever read. Are you really a manager? Because your writing says otherwise.
You know nothing about business. What I said is out of EVERY business handbook; small or large businesses. Please refrain from commenting about topics you have no experience about.
What you said is just that - gobbledygook. Please. Throw the Boeing corporate book away and write what you really feel. We are not Boeing people here. We don't need you reciting what the higher-ups at Boeing have instilled into your brains. We are just having a nice and casual conversation. No more Boeing. No more corporate dogma. Just us, Lea. We are your friends.
Ernest wrote:
BTW, next poster is 66666, so may be condemned to an eternity of Hellfire... where, most probably, Trump is President for Life.
I understand where you're coming from, but of course *in fact* there is no Hell and no Heaven. When you're dead, you're done, and your constituent molecules rejoin the universe. That's it.